New built computer, problems. HELP

[ShockValue]

I hjave built a new PC and it freezes/restarts/blue screens of death me when I try to do just about anything, I haven ot got to game on it yet, and I have had it assembled for over a month.

SPECS:

MSI K8N Neo4 MOBO (no SLI)
AMD 3200 64bit
Tried: x300se, x700pro, x800GT (256 PCIE GPU)
PNY 1 GIG RAM
2x Maxtor 100 gig HDs with different OS on each (one is quick something technology) One of them has Win2000PRO SP4 and the other XP Pro SP0 (I have SP 1 and 2 but have never been able to install them. it always freezes)
Both OS's were formated with NTFS file system.
A case with a 400W PSU and 2 case fans. (one on back, one in front of CPU, both blowing outwards)

The freezing is rather spiratic and s caused from file WIN32k.sys (I only got a blue screen that would stay up long enough for me to read it one time.)
The error also reads "beginning physical memory dump"
the stop code is..

stop: 0x000000050 c0xaa7b2050 0x000000001 0xbf8723c7 0x00000000


What I have tried:
Rebuilt the whole thing COMPLETELY! (not using a single part from where I started, new CPU, RAM, MOBO, HDD, GPU, and even a different optical drive.)

Nothing has worked, even after the rebuild I got the same error, but I do not think it can be a software error as I have tried 2 different known working OS's, I use the 2000pro on my conventional pc.

I DID get HL2 and UT2K4 installed, but I can no longer access the internet for some reason or another on my XP HDD and my 2000PRO HDD I am unable to even browse the internet or play solitare very long before it freezes.

When palying either game, I can play for anywhere from 1-10 minutes before the computer freezes/shuts down/blue screens.

ANY help would be freakin' awesome..

I am NOT overheating, I checked I am not running over 33º C on any component in the whole system.

Thank you



Shock


Edit: Sometimes PC takes a long time to boot, also I load fail safe defaults.

[Cricket]

Is that RAM compatible with your motherboard?

Have you tested the RAM yet?

Do you have spare RAM you can swap in to test with?

Have you tested the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic utility yet?

Cricket

[ShockValue]

I figured DDR ram was compatible.
And no to the HDD thing.

I figured if there was a problem it would not get as far as it does, sometimes...

If I can get this thing back on the net I will try it. I do not have any spare ram though. (Using mom's pc)]


EDIT/UPDATE: I just ran a Mcafee registry cleaner scanner trial version thing, it came up with like alot of erros in "system 32" lots of the occuring errors according to this thing (reputable, I do not know, but at this point I am trying anything.) Lots of DLLs appearing in their list.

[ShockValue]

I performed a HDD test, both HDDs are good. I performed an awesome test, the results came back negative.

I updated ALL drivers for MOBO and VGU.

I am running the 2000pro HDD but it is still freezing. My ram is reading fune, i disabled quickboot and it says the ram is A-O-K.

What does alarm me, I put on my PC ALERT, and when I click hidew it keeps jumping up because there is a field Labeled "+12V" and the thing keeps overtasking reading under 2v. I can set it so that it won't do that, but I do not know if I want to do that. I am sure the PSU is good,as I have tried a known working PSU and got the same results..

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by ShockValue I am running the 2000pro HDD but it is still freezing. My ram is reading fune, i disabled quickboot and it says the ram is A-O-K.

RAM isn't tested during bootup...it's just counted to see how much is there. You need a memory tester like Memtest86+ or DocMemory to test the memory properly.

Originally Posted by ShockValue What does alarm me, I put on my PC ALERT, and when I click hidew it keeps jumping up because there is a field Labeled "+12V" and the thing keeps overtasking reading under 2v. I can set it so that it won't do that, but I do not know if I want to do that. I am sure the PSU is good,as I have tried a known working PSU and got the same results..

If the same thing is happening with two different power supplies, then the voltage regulator on the motherboard is probably bad and the motherboard needs to be replaced.

Cricket

[ShockValue]

So some more tests. Still does the same thing when removed from the case. Same EXACT thing on both HDDs on both MOBOS with BOTH PSUs (both are 400W)
PC ALERT still reading low on that area on all circumstances. STILL confused. STILL angry. I am about to part this stupid thing out. I can NOT isolate the freakin' problem.

[ShockValue]

Memory is in workign order as well. side note. both MOBOS are BRAND new.as well as EVERYTHING else in this PC

[jayb1234]

I have tried 2 different known working OS's, I use the 2000pro on my conventional pc.

2x Maxtor 100 gig HDs with different OS on each (one is quick something technology) One of them has Win2000PRO SP4 and the other XP Pro SP0 (I have SP 1 and 2 but have never been able to install them. it always freezes)

You can't use the same copy of an OS on 2 machines. It is illegal. The fact that you can't install the service packs would seem to indicate that the first install might not be legal either.

[ShockValue]

Originally Posted by jayb1234 You can't use the same copy of an OS on 2 machines. It is illegal. The fact that you can't install the service packs would seem to indicate that the first install might not be legal either.

Here is the thing, yes I can. And, YOU can get bent.

[Tin]

Originally Posted by ShockValue Here is the thing, yes I can. And, YOU can get bent.

We do not tolerate personal attacks here. Perhaps you should read the rules. Consider this your warning.

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[ShockValue]

I understand the rules of any forum in the world.

But I also understand that if you have nothign to conribute to a thread asking for advice on a problem rather than stating "hey, you can't do that, because it is illegal" Well, homeboy, my XP OS is legit, and my 2000pro wouldn't be in use after I got my other pc, both copies of the OS are legit and purchased by me, homeboy.

I would rather have HELP than someone saying something stupid that I do not care to read amungst my distress.

The PC FREEZES when I try to isntall SPs, guy.

[FireByyrd]

Having brand new parts doesn't necessarily mean it will work as it should. It might be a motherboard fault like Cricket said.

With the OS, maybe you should try zerofilling the drive and then reinstalling XP. There might be some driver remnants that are cause corruption or errors of some sort. Also use Service Pack 1, or service pack 2 before installing other programs.

And nothing is stupid, JayB was just noting something that he assumed.

[ShockValue]

Originally Posted by FireByyrd Having brand new parts doesn't necessarily mean it will work as it should. It might be a motherboard fault like Cricket said. With the OS, maybe you should try zerofilling the drive and then reinstalling XP. There might be some driver remnants that are cause corruption or errors of some sort. Also use Service Pack 1, or service pack 2 before installing other programs. And nothing is stupid, JayB was just noting something that he assumed.

1/ He was telling me some stupid law, that noone abides by.
2/ I reformated the harddrives both with both OS's about 4 times a pop.
3/ The MOBOS are known working. Along with all other hardware. PC is assembled correctly, just, it is magically broken. Is my thoughts.

[BrokenKingdom]

1. Stop whining. If you have an issue with something someone posted pm them and if you can't behave as an adult then don't post at all. From this point on drop it and start behaveing maturly. We don't have to help you its our choice.

2. What brand name is your PSU and what are the brand names of the PSU's you have tried? Sounds like something is not getting enough power. With off brand name most of the time they don't actualy produce the amount of power they claim to.

3. What is the exact model of your cpu? I ask because it is a lot easy to help if we know the specifics.

[ShockValue]

MSI K8n Neo4 MOBOS... model 7125.

I also tried an ASUS mobo (my friend's unknown model number)

Tried some PSUs that worked in my friend's PCs

CPU is just a single core AMD 3200 64 BIT. Most info found in first post.

[nosefirst]

Have you tried reformat & reinstall OS?

I had similar problems. Blue screens, registry messages, etc. I would run AVG and about 3/4 through my rig shut down. SNAP... blank screen, power off!

AVG told me it was probably a corrupt file. I couldn't find it so I reformatted (quick selection) & re-installed OS, & it has been perfect ever since.

Thats when I installed a seperate hard drive & Norton Ghost 10.

Now if it ever happens again it SHOULD only take minutes instead of hours to get back to perfect.
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[FireByyrd]

Shock, please understand what I am trying to say. I'm saying to zerofill it not just reformatting with windows XP.

*edit: You may find the utilities on the Maxtor website.

[nicolaus corelius]

if the HDD is the problem then he could test it w/ another small drive.

[doubledragon5]

As far as the fans go, the one in the front should bring air in sucking inward to help keep the pc cool.. The one in the back blows the hot air out.....

Are you using a router. The only think I can find on thart error is by typing in the first part... Click on the top result in the link provided below...

http://search.microsoft.com/results....a+0x000000050+

[ShockValue]

Tried everything all of you said, and again, just to confirm. Still doing it... I am angry.

[FireByyrd]

Well if none of these methods are working, I guess the only best bet you have is to RMA the major components, and see if the new replacement helps.

[ShockValue]

Recently made friends with a guy who is a computer tech. He is going to get it working for me if at all possible, I will have to give him some money, but it is a nominal fee as opposed to getting a new ting. I already RMA'd EVERY single piece except the case, and it didn't work on bench either.


Thanks for all the help guys. I learned a buttload from ya.


I will probably stay active in this forum


Shock

[gary_hendricks]

Hi ShockValue, it happens sometimes. I remember when I set up my rigs, man, the computer will just Blue screen me all the time. Hope it works out for ya.

[russbo007]

have you tried a different case. I have had a case be the cause of my troubles.

[ShockValue]

I already stated it did the exact same thing on BENCH

[glc]

ShockValue - if you want to stay active in this forum, you will bite your tongue. You were warned by one of my moderators and you gave him lip back. If I see any more behavior like this, your status here is in serious jeopardy, I don't care why you react, you can NOT react like that. Thank you.

P.S. - my mods have ban power and are authorized to use it.

- Admin -

jayb1234: In the future, please do not caution other members about possibly illegal activities, that's OUR job. Feel free to report the post, but do NOT take matters into your own hands. Thank you.

Now, back to the issue at hand. You have been asked more than once what the brands are of these power supplies. We are not asking you that just to ask, we have reasons for that. PCI-Express has more power demands than you are used to - if, for example, the units only have 20 pin main ATX connectors and a single 12 volt rail, it will not provide enough power to the components that need it, 400 watts notwithstanding. Also, you have yet to confirm that your ram has passed a proper diagnostic such as Memtest86+. I do suspect the ram because PNY is not a quality ram manufacturer - they just repackage whatever they get their hands on, which may or may not be compatible with a specific motherboard.

The motherboard itself is about all that's left to blame - but I sure would try to totally rule out ram and power supply first and I don't think we have done that just yet.