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02-08-2006, 03:08 PM
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First Gaming Rig...
Hey guys, I'm interested in buiding my first computer, the computer will be used mainly for gaming, as well as some school work here and there.
These are some of the components that I am thinking of getting to build my first computer... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Case - ASPIRE X-CRUISE-AL/420 Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply Price = $85 Found Here or... - NZXT Lexa Black/ Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500 WATT PS2 ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply Price = $179 Found Here Q: They both have versions that come with no power supply,If I am getting a bigger PSU, should I get the non-PSU one? Q: Which one in your opinion is better, is the other one worth it for double the price? PSU - Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL Price = $85 Found Here Q: Im sure 550 watt is good enough for my whole system, am I wrong? Q: Is there a better Power Supply I should get, I heard Antec was a reliable, good brand? MotherBoard - ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard Price = $167 Found Here or... - ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard Price = $158 Found Here Q: IS the only difference between the two is that the Premimum accpets my x2 CPU, or am I missing something? CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 1GHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Price = $463 Found Here Q: Is the heatsink fan that come with the cpu all I need? Q: Thermal Paste/ Grease? What is it, and do i need it, and if so what kind? Gaming Hard Drive - Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive Price = $155 Found Here or... - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive Price = $286 Found Here Q: Is worth it to get double the memory and cache for almost double the price? 2nd Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive Price = $110 Found Here or... - Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive Price = $103 Found Here Q: Personally I think the WD is better, but what do you guys think? RAM - Corsair XMS 2gb (2 x 1gb) Found Here Q: WHat kind should i get, there are so many choices of Corsair XMS Ram, and they all seem the same? Q: Also does all the Corsais XMS Serires support my Mobo? Primary Optical - NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE/ATAPI DVD Burner Price = $38 Found Here Q: Should I get 2 of the drives above or get a sperate Cd/Dvd rom player? Q: Is there a better DvD-Burner out their for that good of a price? Sound Card - Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card Price = $122 Found Here Q: Nothing much to say unless someone would want to suggest anything? Video Card - XFX PVT70FUNF7 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory Price = $469 Found Here or... - ASUS EN7800GTX/2DHTV/256 Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card Price = $472 Found Here Q: THis first one seems to be the better one, it is faster in some areas if you compare them and it has HDTV out, what do you guys think is better? Q: Is there a better brand of the 7800 GTX for around the same price? Modem - D-Link DCM-202 42.88Mbps Downstream,10.24Mbps Upstream USB and Ethernet 10/100Base-T High-Speed DOCSIS 2.0 Cable Modem Price = $60 Found Here Q: Heard it makes quite a difference, What do you guys think Speakers - Creative Inspire P7800 90 Watts 7.1 Speaker Price = $86 Found Here Q: Would go good with my Sound Card, suggest anything else? Headset - Logitech 980158-0403 3.5mm Connector Internet Chat Headset Price = $14 Found Here Q: Just for gaming at night, and not annoy the parents. OS - Microsoft WIndows XP SP2 Q: Maybe Vista soon... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ... So thats my setup. If anyone sees any compability issues,or missing parts, please tell me( I doubled chekced so there should be none). Also what do you think of the whole thing... Reply here or you can email me at deadlynader@hotmail.com P.S. Sorry for all the questions, some i have researched my self, and just want to make sure I'm right 
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02-08-2006, 03:51 PM
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I would go with a 74gb raptor, and 250WD. Unless you hav money to spend, I would just stick with te 74gb, you do have the combination of space with the 250gb 2nd drive.
Graphics card: This your best bet: EVGA 7800GTX KO versions (490,1300) smokin' hot. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130237 or if you want cheaper EVGA 7800GTX KO version (downclocked) still smokin' http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130254 xcruise looks cheap, go with the second one, it looks really nice. *RETAIL cpu comes with a heatsink, thermal pad, and fan. If you don't want the pad, just scrape it off with a credit card and use artic silver 5, or artic silver ceramique. |
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02-08-2006, 04:08 PM
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thanks for the info, anyone else?
 
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02-08-2006, 04:13 PM
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hey there and welcome to PCMECH! first off, it doesnt matter which case you buy, dump the power supply it comes with. as for the price difference, you are the one who is going to be looking at the case everyday so it is your decision (if you ask me, i like the aspire). the psu you picked out is an excellent one. rule of thumb for shopping for power supplies: dont look at wattage first, look at brand first. the brand usually dictates the reliability of the unit. some examples of good psu mfg's are enermax, fsp, antec. good mobo chioce. either way, your x2 should be supported, whether out of the box or with a bios update. not too sure about that. ASUS is a great brand. i would get one 74gb raptor and a seagate as the 2nd drive (i love seagate, cant go wrong with 5 year mfg warranty either). the dvd burner is a good choice. i like nec and pioneer (i own one, hasnt burnt a coaster yet). i would definitely recommend getting a seperate dvd rom as your reader. this may or may not be true but i would think the laser in the burner would "wear out" faster if you use it as a reader too. for ram, i believe the xms series is aimed at overclockers. if you're not going to be overclocking, then value ram would be fine. i believe xfx is a decent brand but i would go for the evga simply because of their step-up plan. Plus its cheaper than the xfx (i assume you live in the states). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130254
i have one of the first evga 7800gtx and it runs great. i think that covers all your questions. if not just tell us. we are here to help. EDIT: just realized that FireByyrd linked to the same vid card. |
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02-08-2006, 04:23 PM
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I agree with the above selections. However, unless you're absolutely set on the NVIDIA vid cards, I'd take a hard look at the new 1900XT (NOT the XTX). For about the same or less $$ than most GTX's, it is beating them handily in the benchmarks. If you ARE an NVIDIA fan, then by all means the 7800GTX is a great card. FWIW.
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02-08-2006, 04:26 PM
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I have no expierence with an ATI and prefer the nvidia ovcer them, I am probably going to stick with the nvidia card, any more suggestions
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02-08-2006, 05:34 PM
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I like that case, I might get it for my own build if I do build something anytime soon. Also I think this case might be to your liking, about $40 cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068 Last edited by dbzakj; 02-08-2006 at 05:38 PM. |
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02-08-2006, 06:05 PM
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Which case do you like, the Apire, or the other one?
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02-08-2006, 07:40 PM
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This liteon burner would be a good choice, dual layer, lightscribe, and comes with Nero and PowerDVD.
Hard drive: the 16Mb cache on the Western Digital will make it noticably faster than the Seagate with the 8Mb cache. Also you are likely to need a floppy drive at some point in the setup. Case/psu; neither of the PSUs in those two cases are any good. That Antec is one of the best values on the market and is SLI certified. Get that and a case without a PSU.
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02-08-2006, 07:52 PM
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Thanks JB, I will look into that dvd burner, also ya I'm getting the non PSU versions, alot cheaper for less deadweight, and I see what you are saying bout the hard drive
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02-08-2006, 09:41 PM
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Actually the case I mentioned has no psu, which is why its about 1/2 the price as the other one. Oh yeah, and that dvd burner is the same one I'm planning on getting
Last edited by dbzakj; 02-08-2006 at 09:45 PM. |
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02-08-2006, 10:28 PM
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since u said SLI on ur mobo, meaning ur getting two right? or jus one later?
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02-09-2006, 06:05 AM
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All I can afford right now, is one of those cards. I plan on getting one later to run in SLI mode.
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02-09-2006, 06:06 AM
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Ya I just love the design of the NZXT case, and have read nothing but good reviews on newegg.com.
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