|
|||||||
 |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
02-20-2006, 12:30 AM
|
#1 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
 |
weird power supply!!!
does this look right to anyone ?!?!? cuz i thought it was a 24 pin connector .. not 23 ... and my system isn't starting up ....
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/337...4medium7qe.jpg http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/320...3medium5jg.jpg Last edited by thefultonhow; 02-20-2006 at 12:32 AM. |
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 12:35 AM
|
#2 |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
 |
Please don't post inline images; we try to keep this forum dialup friendly. I've converted your images into links.
Is there an extra wire hanging out of the connector? Also, is it not starting at all? if you plug in power and connect a network cable between a hub/switch/router and the motherboad, do you see any lights on the network jack?
__________________
Computer: Intel Core i5-750 2.66 GHz quad-core processor @ 3.71 GHz | Asus P7P55D-E motherboard | Crucial 4 GB DDR3-1333 RAM | nVidia GeForce 8600GT | 2x WD Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB hard drives in RAID 1 | Antec Sonata III case with Antec EarthWatts 500-watt PSU | Dual Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" widescreens | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Other: 2005 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT sedan 5MT | Samsung Epic 4G Smartphone | Mamiya M645 1000S medium-format SLR with 55mm f/2.8, 70mm f/2.8, 210mm f/4, teleconverter, 120 and 220 film backs | Olympus E-PL1 Micro-4/3s DSLR with 14-42mm and 40-150mm lenses |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 12:37 AM
|
#3 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
sorry bout that .. but no there is no wire sticking out .. i traced the whole thing to the power supply and counted the wires there and still only 23 wires ...
the light on the board does turn on tho .. but no matter how many times i push the button it doesn't turn on ... |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 12:52 AM
|
#4 | |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Quote:
 )
|
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 03:26 AM
|
#5 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
i checked the power switch both ways and still no boot ... and i found this on the web ...
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5...s3sized9fh.jpg |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 11:28 AM
|
#6 |
|
Shiro Usagi
Premium Member
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii
Posts: 34,002
|
I think the missing pin is normal...it's probably a ground wire that isn't necessary. I've seen other 24 pin connectors with the missing pin.
What are the complete system specs for this computer? List the parts by brand and model including the power supply.  Cricket
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 02:48 PM
|
#7 |
|
Member (5 bit)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 28
|
My PSU (comes with Antec SONATA II case) is missing a pin, too. It doesn't seem to matter.
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 04:25 PM
|
#8 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
spec is
p4 631 3.0 processor intel d101ggc socket 775 motherboard 512mb pc3200 ram seagate 200gb hd 6600gt pcie video card(i don't know if i'm suppose to connect this to the power supply but i can't find a connector on the card) |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 06:31 PM
|
#9 |
|
Member (12 bit)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,557
|
The missing pin is normal. Go here and do the "out of case" check.
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=132409 |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 07:00 PM
|
#10 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
tried and still doesn't boot ....
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 07:02 PM
|
#11 | ||
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 07:19 PM
|
#12 |
|
Served with Pride
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: near the left coast of Michigan
Posts: 14,565
|
Do you have the 4 pin square connector plugged in by the cpu?
Do you have the cpu fan plugged in to the correct connector on the mobo? Is your memory listed on the Qualified Vendor list for that mobo? If you have mulitple sticks of memory, are you trying one stick at a time? |
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 08:47 PM
|
#13 | |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
Quote:
yes i have the cpu fan plugged into the board's cpu fan 1 pins. there are only 3 brands on the qualified vendor list so i'm guessing that's not correct ... (buffalo, legends, avant technology) i only got 1 stick of 512 ram pc3200(and it's in dimm slot 0) and i tried using the screwdriver to short the pw switch but it doesn't seem to work .. also i can't totally remove the heatsink/fan because it seems i pushed the pins in too tight ... now only 3 of them are able to come out and the last one doesn't. i still could look at the cpu and it doesn't seem burnt the heatsink/fan is original from intel and uses a thermal pad, so i didn't use thermal paste. Last edited by jack_d12; 02-20-2006 at 08:50 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 08:52 PM
|
#14 |
|
Served with Pride
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: near the left coast of Michigan
Posts: 14,565
|
Assuming you're attempting the startup with the mobo out of the case, connect a case speaker to the speaker connections on the front panel connector. Remove the memory module and short the two power pins. You should get beep codes indicating memory system failure. If no beeps, I'd suspect a bad mobo. If you do get beeps, try a different memory stick.
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 08:52 PM
|
#15 | |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Quote:
.o o o o o ... x x o o |
|
|
|
|
|
02-20-2006, 08:57 PM
|
#16 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
i shorted the two red ones shown on the mobo diagram ... and it does look like ur diagram ... well assuming the light is on does that mean the board is still ok ?!
not only does it not boot the cpu fans don't even turn on ... just the mobo light .. |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 02:13 PM
|
#17 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
double checked the board for a speaker connector and there isn't one of those either ...
|
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 02:34 PM
|
#18 | |
|
Served with Pride
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: near the left coast of Michigan
Posts: 14,565
|
Quote:
Have you done the out of case test yet? |
|
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 02:52 PM
|
#19 |
|
Member (10 bit)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: brooklyn, ny
Posts: 920
|
the odds are the mobo is broken.
__________________
"Young people everywhere have been allowed to choose between love and a garbage disposal unit. Everywhere they have chosen the garbage disposal unit." Guy Debord |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 03:29 PM
|
#20 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
ok i got it to work ...
i knew it was something wrong w/ the psu .. so i went out to buy a 20-24 pin adapter and tried my old 250watt psu ... and bang it works ... i guess the missing pin does make a different .. maybe only on this board cuz it's made by intel ... anywayz i got it to boot up hooked everything up hd dvd video card and it won't load into windows setup .. says it's detecting hardware configuration in dos and then freezes ... i'm guess cuz the psu isn't big enough ?! btw in the bios it said the cpu was running 65C .. is that normal for that type of cpu ?! i've only done athlon xps and celeron ds those i got running at around 50-55C.... Last edited by jack_d12; 02-21-2006 at 03:35 PM. |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 03:35 PM
|
#21 |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
What is the brand and model of the new power supply?
|
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 04:11 PM
|
#22 |
|
Member (11 bit)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,798
|
Fulton,
"so i went out to buy a 20-24 pin adapter and tried my old 250watt psu ... and bang it works ... " 250 watt PSU is underpowerd for that system and even more so because of that adapter. Most people run into problems with using it. Look in this thread and pick out a good brand PSU in the 400w range, which will give you some headroom http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195
__________________
Xaser III AMD 2400+ (no time to mess around with OC'ing) Abit NF7-S 420w Enermax Noisetaker Radeon 9800 PRO 80g Seagate 60g Westarn Digital 512 megs OCZ Enhanced latency PC3200 2-2-2-3 Swiftech MCP-650 Swiftech 6002A And a Transmission cooler Temps- 28C idle and load even @1.8v Pics- (the first 6 are new ones) http://photobucket.com/albums/v231/-FLG-/ |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 04:33 PM
|
#23 | |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 05:27 PM
|
#24 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
sorry i'm a cheapo but the "new" power supply that had 23 pins .. was a maxpower compusa brand power supply it was going for $29.99 w/ $20 rebate
i've got the cheap isn't good message from glc before .. just thought compusa wouldn't make that kind of thing ... anywayz the 250watt power supply is a bestec ... and the adapter does have all 24 pins. can't believe a $4 adapter works better than that $10 power supply.... i will be looking for a better psu from a better brand but how do i know it has all 24 pins ?! from a previous post some antec psu don't even have all 24pins ?!?!? knowing that the 631 p4 is a 65nm size die isn't it suppose to run cooler than my old athlon xps and celeron ds ?!?! Last edited by jack_d12; 02-21-2006 at 05:31 PM. |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 05:36 PM
|
#25 |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Your problem here is not the missing pin, it's that you got a terrible-quality power supply that was probably dead to begin with. I'd get a 400 watt or higher PSU from the first tier in this list:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=4146 |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 10:28 PM
|
#26 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
which do i follow? in the nvidia forums raidmax is under the #1 manufacturer .. while the pcmech forums list the raidmax under bad ....
was looking at this one ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152018 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023 wanted something blue |
|
|
|
|
02-21-2006, 10:35 PM
|
#27 |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Interesting question... I'd probably stay away from Raidmax, but that's just me. I'd also get a PSU with dual +12V rails. I'm kind of surprised this is priced so low, but it is from a reputable brand (ePower) and is 400 W with dual 12V rails:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817101009 Right now it's $25 plus $7 shipping -- excellent deal in my book. EDIT: on second thought, it doesn't have a 6-pin PCI-E graphics connector. This PSU does, though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104953 A bit more expensive though. Last edited by thefultonhow; 02-21-2006 at 10:47 PM. |
|
|
|
|
02-22-2006, 03:18 AM
|
#28 |
|
Forum Administrator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Joplin MO
Posts: 37,764
|
The 631 processor is not supported on that motherboard, by the way.
|
|
|
|
02-25-2006, 10:06 PM
|
#29 |
|
Member (8 bit)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 163
|
the 631 is working pretty good on that board i've done two fresh installs of windows w/ the cpu/board and no problems yet.
if it's not supported what's going to happen ?!??!?! will it cause heating problems ?! cuz last nite when i did a second install cpu heat was around 59C! i think i should get another heatsink/fan also is it safe to run 3 or more computers on one surge protector ?! i've got 2 pcs and i'm afraid of running more than that ... |
|
|
|
|
02-25-2006, 10:14 PM
|
#30 |
|
Moderator
Staff
Premium Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,918
|
Check the heatsink-retention pins -- a lot of people have trouble getting them in all the way, and if they're not in properly heat can be an issue.
If I were you I wouldn't put three computers on one surge protector unless you were running them all on one monitor... |
|
|
|
|
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|
Linear Mode
