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03-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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Parts List For New Gaming Rig! Comments?
After many weeks of agonizing, reading and study I have decided to take the plunge and build my very first gaming PC.
My PC understanding is limited at best and any advise, inputs and other materials or parts I need to build would be MUCH MUCH appreciated. Please dont leave anything out, wiring, fans, HD's anything. Mobo ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16813131540 CPU AMD Athlon 64 4000+ ClawHammer 1GHz HT 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103497 RAM CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145579 Vid Card eVGA 256-P2-N516 Geforce 7800GT CO SE 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256 HD (internal/external Raid?) One area I am clueless Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701 PSU Spire RockeTeer V SP-500W ATX12V 500W Power Supply 200~240 Vac / 100~120 Vac UL, FCC, CE, CSA, TUV - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817710003 OS Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2 - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102062 Case ASPIRE X-CRUISE -BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144151 CD/DVD Drives NEC Beige 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152059 Fans/Heatsinks Thermaltake VENUS 12 80mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106038 Cooling Device VANTEC ICEBERG DDR-A1C Copper RAM Heat Spreader - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835110105 CPU Thermal Paste Artic Silver 5 This is my complete list. Did I forget anything or are there any items of concern? Your input here is appreciated |
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03-02-2006, 08:30 PM
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You want the newer core for the CPU. San Diego - it's got a smaller process, should run cooler.
Spire isn't exactly a trusted name in power supplies - avoid them. For that price it seems it should be good, but I don't think I've heard anything good about them. A better choice would be an Antec Truepower-II 550 - it's a bit cheaper and you need an SLI-Certified power supply anyways - that Spire isn't. Probably won't need the extra features of XP Pro (mainly stuff for large-scale networks), so unless you need that XP Home will do what you need. You might want to upgrade the Retail burner, it's a couple bucks more but you get a copy of Nero. No need for that extra heatsink - the Retail CPU comes with a sufficient one, and not using the stock one voids your warranty. Same for the AS5 - the retail heatsink/fan has a pad on the bottom and not using it voids the warranty as well. Besides, I can tell you that heatsink/fan you picked out will sound like a hair dryer at full blast. There's also no need for for the heat spreaders for RAM - that RAM doesn't get that hot and sometimes these aftermarket ones can even make the RAM run hotter. Oh, and you probably don't need RAID. It can be extra work to set it up, and striping over two drives runs a higher risk of data loss (one drive goes down, there goes your data). Mirroring isn't going to do anything for you unless you have super critical files on there that can't be lost at any cost.
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03-02-2006, 08:46 PM
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So I dont need the A5 paste, the CPU cooler or heat spreaders? Would I be best off purchasing another fan for the case? I want to maxmise my cooling.
Also, I should have pointed out I have a Panasonic Digital Video Camera and Sony Digital Camera. I want to start transfering pics and video to DVD and I assume the above package will be able to handle that. |
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03-03-2006, 08:14 AM
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Thanks for advise. Any last words of advise before I spend close to $1500 would be appreciated.
I eliminated the CPU Heat sink/Fan and RAM spreaders since it voids warrenty. Although max cooling is a desire I will cross that bridge when I get into overclocking. Changed the following CPU AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 1GHz HT 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103529 PSU Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931 DVD/CD Drive NEC Beige 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152056 OS XP Home I have a little wiggle room with $$$ now since the XP Pro saves me some money and I eliminated a few items. Thinking about incorporating this Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144160. Thanks in advance. This is a huge deal for me, Im excited and scared to death that I will go out spend upwards of $1500 (alot for me) and not have a system that works.  Just glad to have a forum like this to get advise and guidence Last edited by BooRay; 03-03-2006 at 08:24 AM. |
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03-03-2006, 08:53 AM
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RAID 0 striping w/Raptors
If you are making a true gaming rig it wouldn't hurt to embrace 2 WD 10k Raptors and set them up for RAID 0 striping. This is your XP system disk and high performance game disk. For your data you want to protect grab 3 identical drives and do a RAID 5. I'd make them SATA 2 (3.0GB) but that is my preference. The Raptors *will* make a difference as they will dramatically decrease your read time and if you are doing Battlefield 2 or such you'll be reading a good bit. There is *no* fault tolerance with this so do beware!
If money isn't an object the newest 150GB Raptor X is a dream but the 74GB model while a little slower will still run rings around your standard large HD especially if set for RAID 0 striping. |
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03-03-2006, 09:06 AM
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My current system has an 80HD but not sure of make and model, just know its 80G. |
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03-03-2006, 09:31 AM
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Stick with the WD hard drive in the first post. It will perform almost as well as a raptor even in gaming. The very slight increase you get with a raptor is not worth the extra expense and the facts that the raptor is much smaller and also pretty noisy.
Also there is no real reason to use a raid setup on a machine that is intended primarily for game playing. Raid can be justified in situations where data loss prevention is a must have, such as business records, but is expensive, unnecessary overkill for a game machine. Raid writes your data to 2 or more hard drives by striping (splits it up between the drives, 1 dies all data lost), mirroring(writes the same to both drives, 1 fails-the other still has the data) or both at the same time(needs several drives. 1 dies data still usable). Also you might need a floppy drive at some point in the setup or later for things like loading drivers, the sata controller, diagnostics or system recovery. SATA II is the same as SATA 3Gb/s.
Last edited by jayb1234; 03-03-2006 at 09:38 AM. |
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03-03-2006, 09:46 AM
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Again, thanks for inputs
After careful consideration and thought I decided that dealing with RAID whatever is a little over my head and I want to keep it simple for the NooB like me. 1) Going to stick with this HD: HD (internal/external Raid?) One area I am clueless Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701 2) Going To Add A Floppy Drive SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model MPF920 Black - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16821103116 3) Need to add speakers to new system. ASUS has onboard audio correct so card is not needed. |
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03-03-2006, 09:59 AM
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That board has pretty good onboard sound, so you don't need a card. Unless you have some highend speakers you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You can add a card later if you want to.
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03-06-2006, 07:17 AM
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Wanted to thank everyone for their input on my new build.
With the comments and advise stated I kept everything the same except for the Antec PSU, adding a floppy drive, some speakers and keyboard and went back to the OEM DVD burner and getting Nero online. This is a huge undertaking for me and while I am excited, I am also aprehensive since this will be my first build. I will post updates on progress and hopefully will not have any problems. Thanks for advise and input to ALL. |
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