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03-04-2006, 01:44 PM
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New Gaming Pc Build
This is the final list. Can someone tell me if I need to change/replace something.
Koolance PC2-601 Case-$150 ABIT KN8 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-$84.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4800CDBOX-$630 -Should I go with the 4400+, which costs $458, or the 4800+ that costs $630? The Koolance case has an integrated water cooling system in it. Can anyone say if this will be good or bad from experience? (2) Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive-$99 each -I want to set these two hdds in Raid 0 configuration. What accessories do I need? CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 433 (PC 3500) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX2048-3500LLPRO-$305 ATI 100-435805 Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-$519 LITE-ON Beige ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe and 5X DVD-RAM Write Model SHM-165H6S BG-$49.99 Thermaltake W0101RU 550W Power Supply-$94.99 Total-$ 2031.97 Dell 24 inch lcd screen with 12ms response time-$739 Which keyboard would you recommend. I do not want a wireless one. |
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03-04-2006, 01:53 PM
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No need for the fancy RAM - get some Value Select DDR400. AMD systems don't get very much from RAM with tight timings.
I highly doubt that power supply will be sufficient. That system will draw a heck of a lot of power, and Thermaltakes aren't the best out there (they are OK for light powered systems). It's extremely weak on the 12V rails. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151025 Better read this first (this is why I'm concerned about your power supply): http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=154025
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03-04-2006, 01:55 PM
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If you want a gaming keyboard, the Logitech G15 has to be the best.
the only thing I would suggest is to switch the ABIT board with an Asus one. They are much more reliable and stable. If you want your HD's in an array, most motherboards come with an onboard RAID controller. |
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03-04-2006, 02:17 PM
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I switched the RAM to
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory-$141.50 and added the keyboard Logitech G15 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Keyboard-$69.95 and added this PSU SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240V UL, CE, CB, FCC-$149.99 Is this mobo better than the one I chose earlier? ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard-$83.99 |
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03-04-2006, 02:19 PM
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All good choices. The Asus A8N5X is very highly recommended.
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03-04-2006, 02:20 PM
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or should I go with this mobo?
MSI RS482M4-ILD Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard-$68.99 |
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03-04-2006, 02:36 PM
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I have decided to go with AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4400CDBOX-$458 since it is $172 cheaper and I can just oc later if i need the extra speed. Then do I still need the 600 Watt PSU or can I bump it down to the 550 Watt I had before?
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03-04-2006, 02:44 PM
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The 4400 and the 4800 are both rated at 110w, so stay with the bigger PSU.
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03-04-2006, 03:21 PM
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which mobo should I get? I would like it to be overclock friendly but also noob friendly as well. I heard MSI mobo's were for user friendliness and DFI for overclock friendly. So which one of those or others do you recommend?
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03-04-2006, 03:45 PM
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Of all the boards that have been mentioned, I'd pick the Asus A8N5X. It's an excellent board from a top quality manufacturer.
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03-04-2006, 04:00 PM
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I'd go with the ASUS A8N-E or A8N5X boards. Both are excellent, stable, boards that will give excellent overclocking options without being terribly finicky.
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03-04-2006, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Actually, after looking around some more - I found a cheaper one that has more on the 12V rails - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931 I figured the 600W more expensive one would have more amps...If you look at the 12V rating on the Thermaltake and compare it to this one, this one has 9 more amps... |
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03-05-2006, 03:16 AM
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The 550 TP II is the best power supply made for under 100 bucks.
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03-05-2006, 10:56 AM
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OK. I am going to add the Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply-$89.99 PSU and get the ASUS A8N-E ATX AMD Motherboard. What case would you recommend if I didn't want to have water cooling integrated into it. Like how the Koolance case that I picked already has a radiator integrated into the case. What case would you recommend without this "integration?"
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03-05-2006, 12:18 PM
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Whatever case you like the looks of.
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03-05-2006, 01:09 PM
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There are too many options out there. I was wondering if I could tell you what I need and maybe you could possibly throw me a couple options. I want the case to be either silver or black. I don't want it to have a side viewing window. I found this case by lian li but I don't know where I can buy it. Where can I buy the PC-201A by Lian li?
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03-05-2006, 01:44 PM
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Couldn't find the case on Newegg, not sure where you could get it. Perhaps directly from Lian Li?
Here's a couple Thermaltakes: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133148 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133136 |
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03-05-2006, 05:59 PM
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thx
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03-05-2006, 06:00 PM
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I was going to get the x1900xtx but I was confused about which vendor to get it from. Why do the prices vary so much if it is the same card?
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03-05-2006, 06:08 PM
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Looks like the cheaper priced cards are coming OEM - which usually means there's no fancy box and you have limited or no extras (manuals, cables, CDs, etc).
I think the same place makes ATi's house brand and Sapphire cards - so either one of those are fine, and ASUS usually has quality parts... |
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03-05-2006, 06:21 PM
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what's ur opinion of refurbished gfx cards?
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03-05-2006, 06:25 PM
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It's a gamble - pay a few bucks more for a brand new card.
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03-05-2006, 06:28 PM
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It's not a few bucks. It's more like 112. So would you personally go refurb or brand spanking new?
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03-05-2006, 06:47 PM
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Oh, that's true since the prices are still probably around $500+...I would go brand new, you usually don't get much of a warranty (30 days at most) so if your card goes south after that 30 days, you are out of luck.
Newegg has a Sapphire XTX for $500 - it's OEM though, so I'm not sure what all you'll get. The pictures show everything but a fancy box and a manual. Though you might be in the same boat as far as a warranty goes - I'm not sure what OEM cards get. |
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03-05-2006, 07:17 PM
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Should I buy all my parts from one place or try to find the cheapest parts from different places and then order them?
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03-05-2006, 09:22 PM
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I would buy all the parts from www.newegg.com . They may not always be the cheapest, but prices are still great and service is top-notch.
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03-06-2006, 01:05 AM
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That Lian-Li case is not on the market yet.
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03-06-2006, 08:34 AM
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OH. that would explain a lot. I am going to be building my uber sweet gaming pc this week. Thx for the help guys.
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