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03-21-2006, 02:19 PM
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$600 budget, first build, opinions??
I'm going to use it for downloading, capturing, burning dvd's, a little video editing but nothing heavy.
I know everyone is going 939, but I'm thinking of going AMD 754 with my budget. I've got a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Not for games, I just want to capture TV shows, do some edits on it, and burn it to a dvd. Should I go for MCE or just stick with XP Home? CPU: $109.00 AMD Sempron 64 3300+ Palermo 800MHz HT Socket 754 Processor Model SDA3300BXBOX - Retail Model #: SDA3300BXBOX Item #: N82E16819104233 http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRa...82E16819104233 Questions on this one. Will the integrated graphics card on this biostar be good enough for what I'm doing? MOBO: ******************************************************** BIOSTAR TForce6100 Socket 754 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Model #: TForce6100 Item #: N82E16813138268 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138268 OR **************************************************** $45.99 Gigabyte GA-K8U Socket 754 ULi M1689 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Model #: GA-K8U Item #: N82E16813128292 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128292 + GPU: $54.00 eVGA 256-A8-N313-LX Geforce FX5500 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail Model #: 256-A8-N313-LX Item #: N82E16814130197 http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16814130197 Should I go to 512MB RAM for a higher priced 256bit GPU? Memory: $66.25 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail Model #: VS1GBKIT400 Item #: N82E16820145440 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440 TV Tuner: $66.99 Hauppauge WINTV401 PCI Interface TV/FM Tuner Card - Retail Model #: WINTV401 Item #: N82E16815116606 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116606 HDD: $51.00 Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM Model #: WD800JD Item #: N82E16822135106 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106 DVD Burner: $37.99 NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Beige IDE Model ND-3550A - OEM Model #: ND-3550A BG OEM Item #: N82E16827152059 http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16827152059 CASE: $43.75 Enlight PM-240110 Black/Silver Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case 250W Power Supply - Retail Model #: PM-240110 Item #: N82E16811116169 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811116169 PSU: $39.99 Thermaltake TR2 W0070 ATX 430W Power Supply - Retail Model #: W0070 Item #: N82E16817153023 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023 TOTAL: $606.11 I was trying to shoot for $500, but I want a decent case with a good PSU. Any incompitability problems??? Opinions??? |
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03-21-2006, 04:29 PM
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If you aren't going to game, you can probably drop the video card. If you do that you should still be able to do Socket 939.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103537 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131571 Either way, don't go with the BIOSTAR - they aren't known for quality. Gigabyte is OK, but ULi chipset isn't. Look at the Antec Sonata II, it's a quality case and power supply. I think if you stick with onboard, you should come in at the same price. Just make sure you get a board with a AGP or PCI-E x16 slot so you can always upgrade the video should you ever want to play games.
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03-22-2006, 06:50 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I will take your advice and go with the 3000+ Venice and Asus mobo.
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If not, how about this cooler master with the power supply up top? I'd also like to add that I'm a NOOB, but I've done simple upgrading: RAM, cd burner, ethernet card. I've never done any partitioning or anything with BIOS, though. Will this be hard for me with my experience? I have to start from somewhere. Last edited by Thundercat; 03-22-2006 at 07:06 AM. |
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03-22-2006, 08:42 AM
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The Antec Sonata II is compatible with a mATX motherboard, as is any standard ATX case.
The only thing you'll need to change in Bios initially is the boot order; making the system look to the optical drive before the hard drive - this is required to boot from the Windows CD and load the operating system. Partitioning is taken care of during the windows install. Just set the windows partition to the size you want - if it's not the full disc size, then you can partition the unallocated space later when you're up and running. Building a system is the best way to get a lot of knowlege quickly. I'd suggest having a read through this guide first: http://www.mechbgon.com/build/index.html FK
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03-23-2006, 10:47 AM
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I would not use onboard video for that kind of work - a $50 entry level discrete graphics solution would be better - no turbocache or hypermemory, please. You can try the Asus VM board to save some cash (I do prefer the A8N5X full ATX with no onboard video), but be prepared to get a PCI-E video card. The micro board is very slot limited and you are going to need at least 1 slot for a tuner.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121538 Have you considered an All-in-Wonder video card instead of a separate tuner? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102661 Last edited by glc; 03-23-2006 at 10:50 AM. |
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03-23-2006, 12:09 PM
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That processor that blue linked to is a very nice choice. I've build a couple of systems with the 754 socket version, all the owners have been very pleased with its performance. I'd also recommend the A8N5X. The builds I made were mainly on the K8N, but I did do one with the A8N. It was the SLI Deluxe. VERY nice board. You won't need that one.
I have an All In Wonder card that glc mentioned in the previous post. Real nice item. Mine is the 9800 PRO. My wife still thinks I spent too much money on it, but we are finally getting into the habit of using it for recording rather than the VCR. The Guide Plus + software is can be nice also, letting you know when your favorite shows will be on. Another thing to consider is getting a 250 or a 300 gig harddrive to be used for additional storage of all the videos you havn't burned yet. Here's a different Sata Caviar for $96 as oppossed to $53. A bit more to spend, but quite a bit more in return. Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701 Let me price what I posted and get back to you. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail $132.00 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $80.99 ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 PCI Express Video Card - Retail $179.00 Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $96.00 These are only suggestions that I would do if it were me. You don't need to spend that much on a video card, but it is a pretty good one. I know from first hand experience that it's frustrating to buy one thing later, and then a few months down the road, buy something faster or better, when you could have purchased the better item to begin with. Sometimes spending a little more can end up saving you a lot more in the long run. With these items I'm at $487.99. Have to add in your case, PSU, DVD +/- RW, and RAM which is $187.98. That would make it a total of $675.97. You can easily get it under $600 by going with a lesser quality capture card and video card. But whatever you do, ....DO NOT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY UNIT. Be sure to get a good one. That Termaltake is a good one, I actually purchased one myself for a build in January. Remember it currently has a $10 MIR, bringing my total down to $665.97. DON'R FORGET ABOUT THE PRICE OF SHIPPING IF IT WILL AFFECT YOUR BUILD.
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03-23-2006, 02:18 PM
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The Enlight/Thermaltake has already been replaced by a Sonata. The Thermaltake is a good ATX 1.x power supply, but not suitable for a PCI-E build.
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03-23-2006, 03:05 PM
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We used an Enermax Noisetaker for the A8N-SLI build, didn't want to suggest that though, quite a bit more $$.
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03-23-2006, 03:30 PM
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The PSU in a Sonata II is plenty good.
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