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05-12-2006, 09:33 PM
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OC System Idea?$1700 system
So I was reading the article on a $130 Pentium D 805 2.66 (533FSB) can be overclocked to as high as 4.1Ghz
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=158459 and so my friend is asking me to build him a somewhat budget gaming rig with SLI... and i thought this would be my perfect chance to test this out... not planning to OC ram tho So heres the parts list CPU (Personally I've been a fan of AMD but this is too good to pass up) Intel Pentium D 805 $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116001 Mobo ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe $193 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131564 RAM CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR-800 $261 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 Graphic Card EVGA 7900GT SLI Signature pack $750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130019 On a curious note, I was wondering if I can SLI two KO 7900gts... in case I don't actually get to buy the signature pack... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130015 Can't decide on a psu, any suggestions? according to the article the psu needs i think 290w, in total it can be under 600w, any suggestions? BFG Tech BFGR650PSU 650Watts $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817702003 HDD WD Caviar RE 160GB SATA 3.0Gb 85$ http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822136009 (might also add a Raptor, haven't decided, need to save some money) Case Antec P180 $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129154 Keyboard & Mouse Already has them, G15 and G5 Monitor Undecided but will be using a 21inch Flat CRT for the time being Optics Already have them, Lite-On LightScribe oh i need a new cpu cooler, quiet one. So I'm going for gaming, and perhaps might just get one 7900 for now. question on KO whether you can SLI them or not. PSU and CPU cooler suggestions too, nothing under 550w tho Total comes to about $1,660 under the 2000 budget.
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05-12-2006, 09:58 PM
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I don't see any reason why you couldn't SLI the KO cards, the photos show the bridge connector on the card.
As for the power supply, that particular one is not SLI-certified. Be sure to get one that is from Nvidia's list: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizon..._powersupplies The build looks good to me otherwise. |
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05-12-2006, 10:13 PM
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ooo thanks i didnt see that. ill look at the power supplies. any ones that's reliable and stable and quiet? ive heard some of the ethermax have problems
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05-12-2006, 10:20 PM
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everything looks great, thats very close to the same build i want, exept i wanna try out the crossfire instead of the SLi just to see how it works.
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05-12-2006, 10:21 PM
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can't decide still on psu, i mean theres brands but i dont kno which one i should pick, antec, ethermax pc power, any other ones i should think about?
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05-12-2006, 10:25 PM
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Any of the common name brand ones that are sli certified should suffice.
Try the Antec TRUEPOWERII 550 watt http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931 |
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05-12-2006, 10:40 PM
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Antec, PC Power and Cooling, FSP and Sparkle would be my top choices.
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05-13-2006, 08:40 AM
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If you are going to SLI a couple 7900GT's, I'd pick a PSU from the 7900GTX-certified list just to be totally safe, ESPECIALLY if you are going to be overclocking a 805, it will require a HUGE amount of clean power to overclock. I'd probably drop the big bucks on the PC Power & Cooling 850 watt, otherwise maybe the 700 watt Fortron Epsilon. I also don't think DDR2-800 ram is necessary, even to overclock. If you plan on running the FSB at 200, all you need is DDR2-533, otherwise go for DDR2-667 if you want to push it higher. You aren't going to be able to use a "quiet" CPU cooler to overclock an 805, you need all the cooling you can get.
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05-13-2006, 02:50 PM
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alright well i guess i'll get a decent case that muffles it, i hope the P180 can.. but noise doesn't matter too much, since i got noise canceling on my headphones.
hmmm just in case i'll go for 700 then lol. Last edited by spartan015; 05-13-2006 at 06:25 PM. |
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05-13-2006, 06:41 PM
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on a side note, the DDR2 they were selling, they don't have any 533 2x 1gb rather 2x 512mb.
and they have DDR2-675 SLI ready 2x 1gb... i wonder if that's compatible with the mobo and cpu. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145015 i decided im getting two KO editions and the 700w FSP. total comes down to $1450 link to the pic of my list. http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6151/complist5ha.jpg Last edited by spartan015; 05-13-2006 at 06:46 PM. |
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05-13-2006, 06:53 PM
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that p180 case will do a good job of muffling the noise
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05-13-2006, 11:51 PM
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was reading a bunch of reviews, and the ASUS seems to have problems. I was wondering how reliable eVGA boards were. and how good their overclocking stuff is.
the board i'm looking at is eVGA 133-P4-NF51-AX Socket LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188004 |
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05-14-2006, 08:33 AM
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eVGA make good quality video cards, but haven't been making motherboards for long enough for consumers to have made a decision on their quality. I tend to be wary of vendor reviews, in my experience, a person is much more likely to post a review if a product was DOA (all manufacturers have some duds). ASUS is proven to be top quality, so I'd choose one of their motherboards over an eVGA.
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05-14-2006, 10:29 AM
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There aren't too many quality motherboard manufacturers who do NForce SLI boards for Intel processors. Asus and Abit are about it.
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05-14-2006, 01:14 PM
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I just have one concern: If you are building a OC'd computer for someone else, you need to make sure it's plenty stable and make sure you let your friend know that is it is overclocked.
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05-15-2006, 07:49 PM
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oh he knows, its a group project, but i'm tasked with finding the parts. in the end i might get the comp.. lol
oh and ram, on the article they used a 5400 DDR2, I don't need anything too powerful right? I mean I don't need something that's like ridiclous, but just reliable and stable. |
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05-15-2006, 08:57 PM
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ugh sorry to bother you guys again, guess im doing my hw.
ASUS P5LD2 Deluxe Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131539 its a server based ASUS and has got good reviews, has two pci e 16x, on their home page tho theres nothing on SLI... is it possible? it something about dual graphic thing... http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...3&l2=11&l3=185 SLI is nvidia isn't it?... so how would i have two pci-e 16x going together? oh decided I'll wait on liquid cooling, neweggs stuff aren't that great. goal would be 3.8 stable... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118003 the ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink $63 Last edited by spartan015; 05-15-2006 at 09:56 PM. |
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05-16-2006, 10:03 AM
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No, that's not SLI -the second slot is a "universal" PCI-E slot for a second video card to feed multiple monitors, not to tie the 2 cards together for SLI or Crossfire. If you want SLI on an Intel platform, you have to get the Nvidia chipset, which is the P5N series at Asus.
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05-16-2006, 03:31 PM
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 Yeah, I would think DDR 667 (the same as PC5300/5400) would be enough. I would think that would be enough to go up to an FSB of 1066 (266 QDR). |
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06-07-2006, 11:57 PM
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would it be fine if i ran a DDR2-533? a pc4200 i think, the mobo supports it
nvm i didnt read one of the replies. ill let u kno how it turns out Last edited by spartan015; 06-08-2006 at 12:19 AM. |
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06-08-2006, 09:51 AM
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$1700? for all that? Hmmm i really hate living in canada, I get ripped off everytime I shop especially now that the CaD is so good and the prices don't reflect that. I want to be able to put a second card into my budget... oh well.
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06-08-2006, 06:28 PM
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lol go to US just to buy comp parts lol, its worth it.
i wonder how good the kingston value ram is, with heatspreaders |
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06-08-2006, 06:33 PM
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06-08-2006, 07:12 PM
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Might want to order that Pent D 805 today! Newegg has it for $119.95 with free freight.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116001 |
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06-08-2006, 09:56 PM
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well i don't plan to oc the ram, basically follow the instructions on the tomshardware site.
i dont really like PQI tho lol, but ok i guess ill go get some corsair. |
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06-08-2006, 10:02 PM
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 ... Duties on top, it makes Canadian goods worth buying... then factor in the gas prices, and that neighbourhood shop around the corner is looking mighty friendly.
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06-08-2006, 10:20 PM
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get caught? ur not allowed to buy parts from the us and bring it back???
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06-08-2006, 11:49 PM
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Purchasing items from the United States without paying taxes, I meant, sorry for the confusion
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06-09-2006, 05:12 AM
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Value ram would be fine in this situation, as long as you get something with a little more headroom, as you have a 805 and the 533mhz fsb is going to be very easy to raise even the the cheapest ram as long as it has the headroom, and since ddr2 starts at 533 you really shouldnt have the problem even hitting the max oc.
Never buy ram just because it has heatspreaders, sometimes manufacturers even use heat spreaders as a way to cover up the true manufacturer of the ic's. And if anything its for bling bling, they also ruin the idea by using crappy/too much thermaltape which just totally contradicts the whole point of the heatspreading conductin heat from the memory. The only memory that had a problem with heat was rambus..and thats long gone. But most manufacturers do sell ram with heatspreaders, if your going for true oc potential for future more higher fsb processors, or for more performance with lower latency then do as panama said, OCZ, crucial, mushkin, or Gskill would be best. If it doesnt come with a heatspreader then you can just use make your own, and use some thermaltape. Thats only if you really want. And ddr2 runs at a much lower voltage too. Be warned tho, that 805D runs blazing hot, 2 90nm cores. Be prepared to dissapate ALOT of heat, and dish out alot of power, especially with that "4.1ghz" oc.  That antec psu is also very nice, but personally I replaced 2 of my antecs and ended up with this awesome ocz unit. Nowadays antec has been really focusing on quiet, thats good, but i cant start recommending them until they start using decent cappacitors. But nonetheless they are top o the line psu's, especially for the excellent price.
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06-09-2006, 08:33 AM
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Well yes you have to use what you've got. but that doesn't mean you can't be angry because you are being ripped off. Paying an extra $100 for a video card or CPU (after the exchange) makes one bitter. I wish I didn't have to move. Someone is benefitting a lot from this and it sure as hell isn't me.
On the bright side there may be a light at the end of the tunnel, publishers are promising better prices for books because of the exchange by fall so maybe more products will follow. More on topic may I suggest OCZ? I have had good experiences with them and, although I know you shouldn't be picking you parts this way, they make the nicest looking parts in my opinion... very shinny. |
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