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05-13-2006, 10:35 AM
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First time builder here. Will be used mainly for school work and web browsing, occasional DVD and mp3 use. Definately not a gaming machine. Just wanted a cool looking computer that I could show off to friends. Quiet would be good as well. Here's what I've picked out from Newegg: case: XION XION II XON-103 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply – Retail Model #: XON-103 $65 minus $15 rebate PSU: FSP Group (Fortron Source) FSP400-60PFN RET ATX 400W Power Supply 100 - 240V UL, CAS, TUV, NEMKO, CB & CE - Retail Model #: FSP400-60PFN RET $60 Mobo: ASUS P5GV-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915GV Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: P5GV-MX $77 CPU: Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott 533MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache LGA 775 64-Bit Processor w/ Execute Disable Bit – Retail Model #: BX80547RE2800CN $58 HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM Model #: WD800JD $45 RAM: Crucial Technology 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory – Retail Model #: BL6464Z402 $52 Optical: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner – OEM Model #: SHW160P6S05 $36 Sound Card: onboard Video Card: on board keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, and OS (XP home SP2) will be purchased from a retail store (or online). Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Last edited by meangene714; 05-13-2006 at 02:49 PM. |
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05-13-2006, 11:05 AM
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The included psus usually arent of good quality, you may want to try and nicer name brand one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937 either of those would be great choices |
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05-13-2006, 11:09 AM
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Ethernet card and sound card not required, all motherboards these days come with them onboard.
Save some money and get a motherboard with onboard video. The $50 video card you chose uses system ram, just like onboard video. Look at a P5GV-MX or a P5GD1-MX. You can upgrade later if needed, they both have PCI-E slots. Power supply in that case is not suitable, it's made by L&C and is total crap. Get a case without a power supply and/or replace it with a decent ATX 2.0 unit. A FSP ATX300-PA or ATX350-PA are good cheap units, suitable for onboard video and lower end video cards. Get a Corsair Value Select dual channel ram kit, might as well use dual channel, not a single stick. A 1 gig kit isn't that much more than the single 512 you picked and will help a LOT with onboard video and shared ram video cards. Buy your XP OEM online unless you can find an *upgrade* retail cheaper and have a Win98 CD to show it during the install. EDIT: Drew, the Thermaltake is not ATX 2.0 and the Antec is overkill. Let's keep budget in mind, this isn't a gaming box. Last edited by glc; 05-13-2006 at 11:16 AM. |
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05-13-2006, 11:34 AM
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Thanks for the replys. Do onboard video cards support multiple monitors? I'm undecided right now, but I may go with two monitors in the future.
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05-13-2006, 11:37 AM
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I believe youll need a card that has two video outputs, because onboard video usually only has one.
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05-13-2006, 12:10 PM
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That's right. If you do want to go ahead and get a video card, you might as well get one that doesn't share memory. (no Hypermemory or Turbocache models) Or you can stick with onboard until you want to add another monitor to save money now.
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05-13-2006, 12:13 PM
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I guess I could get a mobo with onboard video, then upgrade to a multi monitor card later. I've narrowed down my mobo w/ onboard sound & video to either:
ECS P4M800-M7 Socket T (LGA 775) VIA P4M800 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: P4M800-M7 (1.0) ECS RS400-A (1.0) Socket T (LGA 775) ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: RS400-A (1.0) The customer reviews were not too impressive, any other thoughts? |
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05-13-2006, 12:44 PM
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I've updated my list above, considering all the suggestions, except for the memory. I figured I'd go with single 512 stick, and upgrade with another 512 in the future.
glc, the Corsair RAM you suggested would run me about an extra 30 bucks. That's a decent chunck of change I'd save. Still considering though... |
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05-13-2006, 02:47 PM
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Those aren't quality boards...the reviews are bad for a reason (its also cheap for a reason). Something from ASUS would be better, like one of those glc suggested. They cost a few bucks more a reason - they are much better quality.
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05-13-2006, 02:51 PM
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Updated shopping list again, acceptable? thanks again, to all |
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05-13-2006, 05:21 PM
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the mobo you chose is micro-atx, dont know if you ment to get one, but this one is a standard atx
ASUS P5GPL-X Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915PL ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail |
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05-13-2006, 05:49 PM
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05-13-2006, 10:40 PM
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Here is a similar Intel board in ATX with integrated video.
As far as using a micro-ATX board, the only major difference besides size is that the m-ATX board will not have as many expansion slots as the full sized ATX board. As long as it has the features you want and enough slots for what you plan on adding to it, there is no big reason not to use it.
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05-14-2006, 02:28 AM
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Okay, here's my latest list. Just changed the case:
case: ASPIRE X-Dreamer ATXB3KLW-BK/420W Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 420W power supply for AMD/Intel Power Supply - Retail Model #: ATXB3KLW-BK/420W $50 PSU: FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX350-PA, version 2.0, SATA, 350W Power Supply - OEM Model #: ATX350-PA $30 Mobo: ASUS P5GV-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915GV Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: P5GV-MX $77 CPU: Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott 533MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache LGA 775 64-Bit Processor w/ Execute Disable Bit – Retail Model #: BX80547RE2800CN $58 HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM Model #: WD800JD $45 RAM:CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail Model #: VS1GBKIT400 $80 Optical: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner – OEM Model #: SHW160P6S05 $36 Sound Card: onboard Video Card: on board keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, and OS (XP home SP2) will be purchased from a retail store (or online). Am I good to go? Last edited by meangene714; 05-14-2006 at 12:09 PM. |
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05-14-2006, 10:44 AM
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No need to spend that much on a power supply. Get one of the FSP's I recommended earlier and take the extra $30 and get the dual channel ram kit. If you can buy a case you like WITHOUT a power supply (or find one you like that COMES with a decent power supply), you can save more. I've got customers running dual head video cards (X550's and X700 Pros) with 300 and 350 watt FSP's with no problems, so you would be ready for the upgrade. I'd pick the 350.
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05-14-2006, 12:11 PM
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05-14-2006, 12:37 PM
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Other than considering the P5GD1-MX board instead, looks good. The P5GD1-MX is a slightly better and more versatile chipset.
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05-14-2006, 01:09 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131520 What if I went back to a single 512MB RAM, and the P5GD1 board? |
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05-14-2006, 01:49 PM
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Sorry, that's what I mean. Can't you swing the extra 13 bucks and keep the gig of ram?
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05-14-2006, 02:16 PM
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 My final offer: case: ASPIRE X-Dreamer ATXB3KLW-BK/420W Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 420W power supply for AMD/Intel Power Supply - Retail Model #: ATXB3KLW-BK/420W $50 PSU: FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX350-PA, version 2.0, SATA, 350W Power Supply - OEM Model #: ATX350-PA $30 Mobo: ASUS P5GD1-VM Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 915G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: P5GD1-VM $90 CPU: Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott 533MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache LGA 775 64-Bit Processor w/ Execute Disable Bit – Retail Model #: BX80547RE2800CN $58 HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM Model #: WD800JD $45 RAM:CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail Model #: VS1GBKIT400 $80 Optical: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner – OEM Model #: SHW160P6S05 $36 Monitor: VISON V1721DB Black 17" 12ms LCD Monitor 260 cd/m2 450:1 Built in Speakers w/ DVI Port - Retail Model #: V1721DB $169 Keyboard: Logitech 967502-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Value Keyboard - OEM Model #: 967502-0403 $8 Mouse: Logitech Value 953817-0403 Black 3 Buttons 1x Wheel PS/2 Optical Mouse - OEM Model #: 953817-0403 $6 OS: XP home Speakers: Built in speakers on monitor will suffice for now. Last edited by meangene714; 05-14-2006 at 03:44 PM. |
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05-14-2006, 07:24 PM
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Looks like a good build to me.
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