I Want To Build A New Rig *CHEAP*!!

[Sh0ty15]

-I Just Want A Computer For Surfiing the Web =-=-=-=>FAST and i will be useing PhotoSHop Alot big files and i want it to be nice and smooth no lag and Ish. i will not be storeing music or any music files on it. i will not be playing any game exept for like rolercoster tycoon and ages of empires so no serious game need dont play them at all rele, thats what my ps2 is for

-I am Starting From Scratch, at most all i have is a TDK cd burning Drive and i have a power supply box from an old OLD HP. dont know if it will work. i have everything from the hp but that is the only thing i think will work but correct me if i am rong PLEASE

-Dont know if i shuld use An Intel or An AMD processor dont know the differance or nothing about them besides most hp's have amd and dells and stuff have intels. like i said just need a fast computer

-Dont need DVD drives or anything or any burnig drives Have that all on my laptop.

-no moniter or mouse advise needed i know about that stuff, just about what i need for a fast yet simple computer for photoshop and the internet. any advise is wanted and needed, i also want it to be incredebley upgrdeable so in the future when i have more money i can make it better.

-i am on a small budget of about $500 tight i know but i think i can make way oh yea i need a case to

any help is needed

[jayb1234]

antec sonata 2 case/psu about $100

Windows XP w/sp2 oem about $90

Seagate or WD hard drive sata, 80 gb about $50

Pentium d 805 about $110

Asus or intel motherboard w/onboard video and 945 chipset $100 +/-

That is about $450 there. Leaves about $50 for shipping and/or to upgrade the hard drive to a larger one.

You can use the old cd drive for now.

That setup will be pretty upgradeable. You can add a video card or newer optical drives later if you want.

Edit: oops, forgot the ram. 2 x512Mb of Corsair value select: about $75

That puts it a little over $500, but with quality parts and good upgradability.

[Sh0ty15]

Thnx for the advise and suggestions, suggestions still welcome!!!!!!!!!! Do i need to buy windows XP if i have a boot up disk? and is the intel Xeon processor good and do i have to have a special motherboard to use it?

[glc]

You need to buy XP unless you have a full legal copy, not one that shipped with a name brand computer.

Xeons are server processors. Way above your budget level.

[huskers_75]

why does he need a 100 dollar case, You can get a decent one for 50

[Alaron]

Originally Posted by huskers_75 why does he need a 100 dollar case, You can get a decent one for 50

The Sonata is not only a case but has an excellent quality power supply. Power supplies should never be bought on the cheap.

[Sh0ty15]

Would you guys say this is an ok case cause i want an Window http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146015

- and so i guess the first sugestion is the way to go? any other help is needed do i need a big hard drive or no I just Want my comp to be Very fast

[huskers_75]

Originally Posted by Alaron The Sonata is not only a case but has an excellent quality power supply. Power supplies should never be bought on the cheap.

The case looks fine. Ya, true but it doesn't look like he's going to do any gaming on it.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by huskers_75 Ya, true but it doesn't look like he's going to do any gaming on it.

Doesn't matter...you really never want to use a cheap power supply in your computer.

Cricket

[blue60007]

Originally Posted by Sh0ty15 Would you guys say this is an ok case cause i want an Window http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146015 - and so i guess the first sugestion is the way to go? any other help is needed do i need a big hard drive or no I just Want my comp to be Very fast

The case would be OK, but the power supply is not. It doesn't even look like it is ATX 2.0 spec needed for PCI-E builds (yes, you have onboard, but still, you should not use a junky power supply). "Blingy" cases and quality power supplies don't go together. Also to be frank, you can't be real picky on a tight budget. I'll uphold the suggestion of the Antec Sonata II (AND quality power supply).

Really only you can determine the size of the hard drive needed...I don't know what your file storage needs are and how much you have right now. You could stick with a 80GB for now and add another, larger drive once your funds replenish. If you can spring another $50, you can get a 250GB drive w/16MB cache.

[Sh0ty15]

aight thax fro all the advise!
-Hears what i have so far i think i am gonna buy it all in peices not gonna buy it all at once so this is what i have so far

-GIGABYTE 3D AURORA GZ-FSCA1-ATB Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811233003 )

-ASUS A8N-VM Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131571 )

-ASPIRE ATX-AS520W BLACK ATX 520W Power Supply - Retail
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817148008 )

-Update AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Newcastle 1600MHz HT Socket 754 Processor Model ADA3400AXBOX - Retail
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103484 )


--- need help if you think the PSU is good well if everything is good but mainly the PSU and the Processor and if it is compatible with the motherboard

[glc]

Aspire power supplies are no good either. Look at Antec and Fortron/FSP/Sparkle for good ones.

You aren't going to put a socket 754 processor in a Socket 939 motherboard.

You may not think so, but you will probably wind up having to get a video card. I don't think you will be satisfied with the performance of onboard video.

[Sh0ty15]

ok thnx for the help is it a good processor tho? like dose it run prety fast?

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Sh0ty15 ok thnx for the help is it a good processor tho? like dose it run prety fast?

Why are you looking at a older Socket 754 Athlon 64? There are much faster Socket 939 Athlon 64s now.

Cricket

[andper10]

Like said before, you need the socket on the processor and the motherboard to match. Also, try a cheaper case like this (I personally don't care for top handle), or this (it has side ports like your current pick, you will need to get a 120mm fan w/ this too), or this (great cooling options on this one), or this (looks pretty similar to your pick), and that's about all that I found that I think you may like, but here's the link to where I was looking: Cases. Then, buy a seperate power supply (I have read WONDERFUL things about this, and I wish I would have found out about it before I bought my current power supply, plus, Xcilo is on the highest quality p.s. forum). You can use the money you saved to upgrade your processor to more recent technology (I am an intel fanboy, but this one looks similar to your last pick but it is compatible with your mobo). Good luck with your build!

EDIT: Go with Corsair Value select ram. 1GB should be plenty (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440) and MS Windows XP Home OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102059) This (case 50, proc. 110, ps 40, mobo 65, ram 80, os, 90) brings your total to $435 before shipping. You could probably even squeeze in a video card (I do ATI, so this is my recommendation. Since you have integrated video, if the open box doesn't work, you can send it back and still have video). With the open box video card, your total is $485 (before shipping) and that would be a really good budget system.

[glc]

andper10: Please edit your signature, it's oversize as per the forum rules. Thank you.

Yes, the Aurora case is awfully expensive for someone who is on a budget. Why don't you just get an Antec Sonata II case - this comes with an excellent power supply and is only $100 for the whole thing. Do you want to pay for bling or function? It's hard to get both without busting a tight budget.

I recommended a processor in your other thread - a 3800+ 939 for around $150. That's the most bang for the buck right now.

You seem to be obsessed with "fast" - well, ANY modern processor is going to be fast. For what you want to do (Photoshop, big files) the amount of ram is a lot more important. You need at LEAST 1gb, and 2gb would be even better. A separate video card would help too - onboard video uses system ram. You don't need a high end card - a $50 Radeon X550 would do the job - just don't get a Hypermemory or (Nvidia) Turbocache card - they also steal system ram. If you get a video card, get the Asus A8N5X motherboard.

[Sh0ty15]

ok well i dont know anything about any of this thats why i am happy i found this site and what all the numbers and abr. are, i have got some of them down like psu and cpu but yea i do know what to look for a fast processor or a motherboard to put it in so yea no clue what too do, i am kinda set on that case but i am not gonna get everyting at once and settle with low quiality parts . i am gonna buy what i can now and wait till christmas and my bday is like 2 weeks after so i will have alot more money then just need help with processors and whats good and whats not

[glc]

No, save your money now - and buy everything after Christmas. Anything you buy now will be cheaper and/or obsolete by then. Only buy stuff now that won't depreciate - you could buy a case now and not get burned. Do not buy a motherboard, processor, ram, hard drive, or optical drive now.

[Sh0ty15]

ok thnx for the advise and i guess i will not do anything yet will get bac on this when the money comes around

[Tony Williams]

Thermaltake Soprano Black and 300/350W PSU. I'd spend about $80 on 'em both. Me loves Tt.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Tony Williams Thermaltake Soprano Black and 300/350W PSU.

A 300/350 watt power supply to run a Socket 939 Athlon 64 based system? I don't think so. I'd bump that to 400/450 watts.

Cricket