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Old 07-05-2006, 02:23 AM   #1
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hello, checking the compatibility of parts. i plan to make a budget pc which will be mostly used for music recording but i need some advice on which motherboard/cpu to use.
part list:

ASUS P5P800 SE Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 865PE ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail$75.99
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ASUS P5S800-VM Socket T (LGA 775) SIS 661FX Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 53.00

Intel Pentium 4 506 Prescott 533MHz FSB LGA 775 EM64T Processor Model BX80547PE2667EN - Retail 94.00
or
Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott 533MHz FSB 256KB L2 Cache LGA 775 64-Bit Processor w/ Execute Disable Bit - Retail $59.45

Antec Solution SLK2650-BQE Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail
$75.99

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1GB400C3 - Retail 81.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380817AS 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $59.00

LITE-ON Black 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM 1.5M Cache IDE CD Burner - Retail
$19.99

ATI RADEON 9200 128MB AGP RETAIL BOX # 100-436006 59.99

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im not sure if i really need the pentium 4 over the celeron D because right i now i record music on a 24bitrate/192 capable card with a 1.49 ghz amd sempron/m7vig400 biostar mobo using Cakewalk sonar xl and it runs ok. i was also wondering if the ASUS P5S800-VM is a good choice, it has the right amount of features for me. ive also looked at the ASUS P5P800 SE which has more features but right now im just concerned about price/quality. Finally, this being my first build, i was wondering about the process of building a pc with the LGA 775 motherboard. I only have a book which explains pc building with a 478 socket processor. Im aware of the cpu and heat sink difference, but is this the main difference overall in completing the pc? Anyways, thanks for your time
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:47 AM   #2
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im not sure if i really need the pentium 4 over the celeron D because right i now i record music on a 24bitrate/192 capable card with a 1.49 ghz amd sempron/m7vig400 biostar mobo using Cakewalk sonar xl and it runs ok.
Go with the ASUS P5P800 SE and the Intel Pentium 4 506 Prescott, you'll appreciate the extra power.
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i was also wondering if the ASUS P5S800-VM is a good choice, it has the right amount of features for me.
I'd stay away from the SIS chipset.
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ive also looked at the ASUS P5P800 SE which has more features but right now im just concerned about price/quality.
It's worth it the extra cost to get the Intel chipset for the stability you'll get.
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Finally, this being my first build, i was wondering about the process of building a pc with the LGA 775 motherboard. I only have a book which explains pc building with a 478 socket processor. Im aware of the cpu and heat sink difference, but is this the main difference overall in completing the pc?
Yes, the LGA775 heatsink attaches to the motherboard differently. This tutorial will help you with the installation.

You may want to go with a larger hard drive too...that 80GB is going to fill up fast if you're working with audio files.

I'd get a DVD burner instead just to give you more versatility.

And think about increasing the RAM to 2GB in the future, it'll help you work with large audio files.

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Old 07-05-2006, 10:15 AM   #3
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The cpu heatsink and the need for an ATX 2.0 power supply are the 2 major differences from 478 to 775.
Most of the rest of the stuff is the same, AGP is last generation technology, so you might want to look at a PCI-Express board/video card to allow for better upgradability.
Get the board with the Intel chipset, Via just isn't very good.
Take a look at the 16Mb cache SATA drives, they will be a little faster.
80Gb isn't a lot of hard drive space these days. Around 250-300 Gb is currently the best price/size. However if you are just going to use the machine for recording and not storing the recordings on it after they are finished, 80Gb might be enough to get by. You could always add a larger drive to use for storage of the finished projects.
Of those two processors, I would go with the Pentium 4. It has 4 times the L2 cache that the Celeron does.
For about $20 more than the P4 you could look at the Pentium D 805.
That might need a different motherboard than the ones you listed and could up the budget a little.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:52 PM   #4
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if you are using this pc for music recording you need a sound card. I hear that the x-fi xtrememusic ($116) or other x-fi card is good for recording
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Get an Asus P5P800-VM board (Intel chipset) and use the onboard video. It does have an AGP slot if you need to upgrade later, if you aren't gaming with it, you probably will never have to upgrade. The Pentium-D 805 is the best processor for this job (dual core makes a difference) and it's dirt cheap for what it is. A single core really won't be much of an improvement over your Sempron rig. It's compatible with that motherboard. The standard power supply in that case is fine, that's only a 20 pin motherboard. There really aren't any decent cheap 775 PCI-E boards out there and by the time AGP disappears you will be ready for another major upgrade anyway.

For recording, don't even think Creative Labs if you buy a new sound card - think M-Audio - or are you going to transfer your old sound card over? I wouldn't use onboard audio for that job at *all*.
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thanks, yeah i already have an ESI juli@ card
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