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08-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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My 1st Build "Ready to Order" --- Input Appreciated !
My 1st build. I am not into OC or gaming. Input appreciated as I am ready to order from Newegg.
Need stable PC for high Video encoding & DVD making.  Thx Product Description 1 Thermaltake Kandalf VA9000SWA Silver Chassis: 1.0mm Aluminum, Front Bezel: Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail Model #: VA9000SWA Item #: N82E16811133153 In Stock $229.00 1 Intel BOXD975XBXLKR Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Model #: BOXD975XBXLKR Item #: N82E16813121016 ** This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. In Stock $249.99 1 BFG Tech BFGR78256GTOC Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail Model #: BFGR78256GTOC Item #: N82E16814143037 In Stock $299.99 -$20.00 Instant $279.99 1 PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI-PFC ATX12V 510W Power Supply - Retail Model #: 510 SLI-PFC Item #: N82E16817703001 In Stock $229.99 -$5.00 Instant $224.99 1 Intel Pentium D 940 Presler 800MHz FSB LGA 775 Dual Core, EM64T Processor Model BX80553940 - Retail Model #: BX80553940 Item #: N82E16819116239 In Stock $185.49 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail Model #: TWIN2X2048-6400C4 Item #: N82E16820145034 In Stock $255.00 1 ASUS 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Write Silver E-IDE/ATAPI Model DRW1608P3SSLV - Retail Model #: DRW1608P3SSLV Item #: N82E16827135082 ** This item may only be returned for a replacement of the same make/model within 30 days only. In Stock $36.99 1 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/SP2 - OEM Model #: M93-00294 Item #: N82E16832116049 ** Software delivered damaged and/or defective may be returned for an identical replacement. In Stock $109.99 1 ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail Model #: CNPS9500 AT Item #: N82E16835118003 In Stock $62.99 Subtotal: $1,634.43 Last edited by Power_Player; 08-01-2006 at 10:38 PM. |
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08-01-2006, 10:43 PM
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I also looked at
ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard but it seems it may not be as stable as Intel BOXD975XBXLKR |
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08-01-2006, 10:43 PM
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What will you be using this computer for? The 7800GT is a little bit overpowered for just movies and web surfing
You can save a substantial bit by downgrading... unless, of course, you were doing 3D modeling or something of that sort.You can also use Corsair's ValueSelect line of RAM instead of the XMS2. They cost less, and they're not any worse If you're using an after-market HSF, you may want to find an OEM version of the processor. Retail boxed kits come with the stock 775 HSF, which you will have an extra of if you purchase the Zalman CNPS9500. Keep in mind that if the CNPS9500 doesn't come with thermal paste, you will have to purchase that too. On the other hand, the stock 775 HSF is a good heat sink/fan combo. Any particular reason you're getting an after-market cooling option? Other than that, it sounds good to me! Last edited by Kareeser; 08-01-2006 at 10:47 PM. |
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08-01-2006, 10:46 PM
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1.) This is just my opinion, but I would never spend more than one hundred dollars on a computer case.
2.) The memory may be overkill too, the motherboard supports DDR2-667 & DDR2-533. DDR2-800 would be bottle-necked by the board itself. 3.) The PSU (PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI-PFC for $229) you have is great but very pricey. You can probably get similar if not better performance from this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931 4.)The ASUS dvd writer you have also is okay, but these two are better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151118 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106019 and they both have Light Scribe. 5.) And there is really no need to get a aftermarket heatsink/fan when the retail boxed processor will already come with a very good stock one. Since you are not overclocking the stock one is more than adequate. 6.) Also you forgot to add a HDD to your system.  Here are some good ones: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SubCategory=14***It is important to note that just because something is very expensive doesn't necessarily make it the best one in its class. With the money you save with the parts I listed and what others have suggested you can spend it elsewhere like on a DUAL LCD SCREEN SETUP.
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08-01-2006, 11:21 PM
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Ooh, wow. Good catch with the hard drive, minsonngo
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08-01-2006, 11:22 PM
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9mm wins.
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No problem, four cans of Red Bull in less than two hours will give you SUPER powers haha.
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08-01-2006, 11:24 PM
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THANKS
minsonngo ...........Kareeser 1) Instead of The 7800GT what good (stable) video card would be a nice choice with (HDTV out ) ? 2) OK no ZALMAN CNPS9500 as I am buying retail CPU. I thought with Intel CPU I don't require paste. They come with some sort of PAD. 3) What you guys think of ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard ? Very rich in features. You guys think Intel will be more stable ? Thanks again & I will order tomm. |
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08-01-2006, 11:32 PM
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The stock heatsink/fan should come with some kind of thermal compound or pad usually.
The ASUS motherboard looks good, but it doesn't become available on NewEgg.com until the 5th of August. It does have support for DDR-800 whereas the Intel board does not. I guess you can't go wrong with either one. |
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08-01-2006, 11:47 PM
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Yep. At least, my 775 came with a thermal pad. It should be included in the retail box kit.
As for the video card: It really depends on what you're doing on the computer Specifics are always welcome.
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08-01-2006, 11:52 PM
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Both of those boards are solid. At this point it would just come down to features. If one of the boards has something speacal (like onboard wi-fi for example) go for it, otherwise just go for price.
If you want a good bang of the buck gaming card, the EVGA 7900GT here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130032 is what I would go for in a video card. It's a bit newer, and $10 cheaper to boot.
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08-02-2006, 12:13 AM
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With you guys around I think my 1st build would be fun. Thanks again
I think I will wait for ASUS. Just wanna try those nize features.  After few months Core2 Duo
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08-02-2006, 05:42 AM
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If you are planning to upgrade to a C2D, wait for the Asus board. This would also make the high performance DDR2-800 ram a reasonable choice. You might as well just wait and get a C2D to begin with.
What you need to look at for a video card for THAT use is a *workstation* card such as an ATI FireGL or a Nvidia Quadro. |
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08-02-2006, 09:57 AM
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Thanks Glc,
I am not sure when Core 2 Duo will be available at newegg. I will wait for Asus board. |
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08-02-2006, 10:05 AM
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I would go with the P5W DH Deluxe if you are gonig for C2D. Some revisions of the Intel board *do not* support it at all. It'll be a gamble as to which one you get. The ASUS will support DDR2-800. Also, I don't know why you want a $230 case...I'd much rather get something under $100 and spend the $$ on performance. That's just me though. Your money.
I would consider a 7900GT over a 7800GT for gaming. It's a newer generation (it'll be faster) and it's a bit cheaper. But as you are not gaming, it would be kinda silly to get a high end gaming video card. Definitely either upgrade to C2D - or just wait till it comes out (within the next couple weeks I imagine). C2D will be *blazing* fast with video/DVD encoding. I just read an article about C2D beating the heck out of a FX-62 when it comes to video encoding.
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08-02-2006, 10:06 AM
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Thanks Guys for your input.
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08-02-2006, 10:08 AM
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Your welcome, have fun with your build.
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08-02-2006, 11:12 AM
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Some guy on newegg posted that
ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard Doesn't support conroe out of the box. I called after 4 hours of meticulous testing of all components and found out that it needs a bios chip update to support my core 2 duo processor ?? It doesnt support Core 2 Duo ? |
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08-02-2006, 11:53 AM
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It depends on the revision number. 3.04 supports Core 2 Dou.
Edit: oops wrong board like glc said that is the Intel board I was referring to.
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08-02-2006, 12:51 PM
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Jay, you are thinking about the Intel Bad Axe.
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08-02-2006, 12:53 PM
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The ASUS needs BIOS version 0702 according to ASUS' CPU support page. Since it looks like it (the bios version) just came out not too long ago, stores still have older stock with older BIOS versions. Another reason to wait a little bit after C2D comes out.
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08-03-2006, 03:23 AM
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i dunno ... once you spend good money on a good case, it's hard to go back to a cheaper one
it just makes the build much more worth it, easier to work in, cleaner, and less cramped. you know nothing's going to break off, and 9 times out of 10 they have better airflow.silverstone and lian-li both have great cases around the $160 mark. |
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08-03-2006, 03:36 AM
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That kandalf is not ever worth above 120. Its basically a ARMOUR with a new front bezel and a few other revisions. If your in that kinda price range, buy what I did, a Lian li, quality higher then no other, airflow design perfect, silent, and most of all, aesthetically some of the best looking cases. Trust me, once you own a lian li, your glad you paid 230 for the case.
And may I say, excellent choice on the psu. Really really top end. Congrats. Btw it will rape that antec. No comparison. Ok ya the asus does need a bios revision to support the new conreo stepping 5 and above's. If you want one right now you have 3 choices: Hotflash Get another cpu and bios flash it using that one Get a chip directly from asus. Getting the chip directly from asus would be cheapest, and least risky. Otherwise wait until newegg starts to carry the new ones. But if your interested in buying one right now with the bios update I can suggest a place, but it wont be newegg.
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08-03-2006, 01:19 PM
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Mr.Ferrari,
Thanks. Which Lian li should I go for ? In range of 200-250 ! I want to go for full atx case. Some guy posted on newegg about :- Intel Intel BOXD975XBXLKR board Pricy but powerful and a ton of options. easy install & was up & running within a 1hr with installing windows no less.native DDR667 support but with a simple bios change DDR2 800 slaps in no problem and Bios updates even easyer Just download and click on its that simple. BOOM Now im fully conroe ready board and bios good to go If Intel board supports DDR2 800 I will go for it. Any info on it ? Thanks again. |
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08-03-2006, 01:27 PM
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The intel board should need the same bios update to support the new conroe steppings.
I suggest you wait and buy the asus when conroe comes back in stock. Or get the bios chip directly from asus. As the asus board will outperform the intel bad axe. Otherwise all new 965 and 975 should support DDR2800 ram, that really shouldnt be a issue. Some good lian il's in that range would be: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112119 (comes in black too) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112062 (if you dont want a side window) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112083 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112075 (comes in silver too) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112067 Choose whichever one to your likeing. All top notch cases. |
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08-03-2006, 01:34 PM
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Thanks. I am looking into it and will add one to cart soon. A sound keep popping back in my mind that Intel board will be more stable than asus. lol I think REV 304 (Intel) supports Core2 Duo & Newegg is shipping them now. Thx |
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08-03-2006, 01:38 PM
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Well I guess if you really want stability and dont care about benchmarks or anything or dont need any of the asus's features, I would choose the bad axe then. But it still might need a bios update to support the new steppings of conroe, so I would double check on intel's site before placing the final order. Alot of these motherboards have been used on ES chips. New conreo stepping 5's needed a bios update on some motherboards.
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08-03-2006, 02:24 PM
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ATX case
Instead of Thermaltake Kandalf I am going with Lian Li PC-S80 Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $289 |
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08-03-2006, 02:41 PM
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Not a bad choice. But may I ask why you choose to spend almost 300 hundred dollars on just a computer case???
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08-03-2006, 03:00 PM
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You are one lucky barnacle. Those are are new silence cases from lian li. Double Aluminum panels, heatpipes on the hdd coolers. Omg this case is a beauty. You are gonna have some very happy components. The level of quality and build of this case surpasses anythign lian li has yet to offer. Good luck dood. |
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08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
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This build hopefully will work for next 3-4 yrs with minor upgrades. |
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