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08-10-2006, 01:58 AM
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2nd shot at BUDGET GAMING PC
well... i did some more reading and a bit more searching...
on a $500 budget =) i already have a LCD,Mouse,Keyboard,DVD Reader/writer, this is what i came up with... MD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor 110$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103631 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3250824AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 75$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148111 G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) System Memory 85$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231085 Athenatech A3603BB.400 Black Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case ATX 2.01v 400W Power Supply 45$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811190072 BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 550 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138026 im gonna hold off on a GPU but i need help for a good mobo thats am2 and has PCIe slots  total = 395 w/out tax or shipping $450 TOTAL w/ shippin n tax Last edited by Furashu; 08-10-2006 at 03:03 AM. |
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08-10-2006, 01:59 AM
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Are you looking for SLI Performance? Also, that Power Supply is a little wimpy. =/
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08-10-2006, 02:05 AM
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is that when u can use two gpus at once? if so nah 
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08-10-2006, 07:31 AM
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I'd recommend this motherboard. It doesn't have the Nvidia chipset that I'd prefer, but it's an ASUS and has the on-board video that you'll need if you don't want to buy a video card now. It does have a PCI-E slot so you can add a card that will play games later on.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131014 It's very important that you get a quality power supply. Now, the case you picked out DOES have an ATX2 unit installed, with dual 12v rails. However, I'd still question its quality because of the low price of the case. I'd suggest either going for the Antec Sonata II - quality case AND psu (note the $$ a quality PSU adds) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129155 OR, pick a case you like without a power supply, and purchase one like this separately. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104954 Finally, you're right to get DDR2 800 memory, but check the manufacturer's website of the motherboard you get for the memory that's certified with that board. The AM2 platform has proved picky. FK
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08-10-2006, 09:53 AM
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Didn't you already start a thread?
It would be best to keep everything in once place. You already had suggestions going in the other.
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08-10-2006, 10:40 AM
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That is a micro ATX case and it will not hold a standard size ATX motherboard. The power supply is low quality, you are NOT going to find a quality 400w unit in a case that costs only $43.99.
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08-10-2006, 01:07 PM
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yeah i was wondering that .... but yeah i accidently posted the wrong mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138027 im having a hard time finding a good PSU that supports Micro ATX... im pretty much stressing out on where to get a good PSU that supports a micro ATX and im confused * can a standard atx case support a micro atx mobo?" oh yeah thanks GLC for closing my other thread i didnt mean to cause any trouble or anything |
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08-10-2006, 01:13 PM
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A micro ATX board will fit in a standard ATX case, but not vice versa. Many micro ATX cases *will* accept a standard ATX power supply.
Just get an Antec Sonata II case and be done with it - you can put anything in there and the PSU is high quality. |
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08-10-2006, 01:28 PM
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how much is it? remember im on a budget big time i think ill down the CPU to amd 3500 orleans to drop 20 dollars |
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08-10-2006, 01:58 PM
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Antec Sonata II $109.99 at newegg.
I have seen it as low as $90 at some places. It is a pretty widely used case, so just about everybody carries it. Use Antec Sonata II as the search phrase at froogle.com and it will give you a list of about 200 places that have it. Look for the ones that have stores near you where you can pick it up to save paying the shipping.
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08-10-2006, 03:29 PM
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Don't forget, you need to purchase a operating system too...
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08-10-2006, 08:11 PM
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haha i already got windows xp thanks for the reminder! i got an LCD, a dvd-burner n mouse n keyboard well i rechose my stuff... so i need some more help and your opinions please Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147001 Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148149 Patriot Signature 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220070 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103633 Gigabyte GA-M55plus-S3G Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128010 |
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08-10-2006, 09:23 PM
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Case is ok, but Im assuming by now you know enough to not use that powersupply in the case, correct?
 I would replace that ram with some corsair ddr2 800. Gigabyte isnt *that* bad of a manufacture, but with a platform such as this I would really not do any experiments with anything besides asus.
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08-10-2006, 09:35 PM
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well i rethought something and i reememberd i had 2 cases at home but with crap PSU so i might drop the 55 dollar case and go buy a 50$ PSU from antec and not have to fear a crappy PSU frying my components... as for the mobo im reconsidering if i can get extra cash then i might drop the Gigabyte and get an asus for 75$ and go for this graphic card cause the only reason im gettin the gigabyte is for onboard video for temp use http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130020 thats the video card im after |
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08-10-2006, 09:39 PM
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A 400-450w fsp/fortron/sparkle unit will do very well here too, (in that price range).
That would be a awesome idea. I did find one asus board with onboard video, but its microatx. |
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08-10-2006, 10:17 PM
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haha
well i want search for a 75$ mobo or even 65$ something good any reccomendations? |
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08-11-2006, 12:22 AM
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ok lol CHEAPER build about 40$ shaved off
need advice on ram theyre all about hte same price... Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148149 ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131024 Rosewill RD450-2-DB ATX 2.2 450W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182022 OCZ 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model OCZ25331024VDC-K - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227006 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3500CNBOX - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103633 total = $393.56 shipping and tax =) |
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08-11-2006, 12:31 AM
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Rosewill's are junk quality power supplie - don't risk blowing up your whole machine when the power supply kicks out. For a couple more bucks, here's this power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104954 You really ought to look at DDR2-800 RAM - AM2 really needs fast RAM to stay on par with it's 939/DDR400 counterparts. I would consider spending a few more bucks on the motherboard too, VIA's aren't looked upon too greatly in the enthusiast crowd. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131022 At the very least, I think something with an nVida chipset would be best http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131014 (microATX though, but has onboard video. i don't think the M2V has onboard video) |
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08-11-2006, 01:32 AM
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heres a quote "NO VOLTAGE ADJUSTMENT for RAM. Don't buy any DDR2 over 533. It will most likely not work. Most DDR2 rated over 533 needs 2.0+ v. This board can only do 1.9v. I think newegg should take the 800MHz DDR2... More » rating on this board." what kind of ram should i get? i think ill go for the 95$ asus u suggested (sigh 10 more dollars but i guess its worth it) as for the PSU i had other options for it... i just wanted to get feedback on rosewill PSU's so thatll be 10 more for the FPS( lol i was tryint to look for FORTRON not FPS) 20 more dollars on sigh lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145566 CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 95$ dam thats 30$ more on lol so total price will be.... 423$!! Last edited by Furashu; 08-11-2006 at 01:34 AM. |
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08-11-2006, 06:26 AM
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The extra investments you are making are well worth it though. Trust us.
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08-11-2006, 09:15 AM
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We're you going to get a video card? Not sure what you finally decided to do.
Voltage shouldn't be an issue - that RAM says it takes 1.9V - which should be the default. It's possible the board doesn't have voltage adjustments, or those Newegg reviewer's don't know what they are doing and aren't looking the right places. I was going to download the manual and look, but all the servers are slow as snails. |
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08-11-2006, 11:44 AM
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well i plan on getting the asus thats 83$ since it seems right for me! well after sacrificing here and there i can probably get this card =) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130020 some mobos and cpus say "vista ready" can my stuff use Vista? ok new total = $417! w/out the 110$ gpu tho =/ Last edited by Furashu; 08-11-2006 at 12:01 PM. |
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08-11-2006, 01:04 PM
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If you want this system to game, I wouldn't recommend anything less than that card. Normally the 7600GT would be my "budget" recommendation for a gaming system, and that's $150
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08-11-2006, 01:18 PM
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lol BUDGET for U not for me im already on the edge i cant really go over anymore i hope by the time i do buy my GPU then the price will drop a little maybe i can get the 7600gt a GPU isnt a must for me right now cause im willing ot wait and use my onboard for a month or two i already sacrificed all i can i dont wanna go down anymore ill be happy with this HUGE upgrade on my current PC
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08-11-2006, 01:56 PM
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No, the 7600GT isn't a 'budget' card, but building a gaming system is not something that should be done on a tight budget. In your previous thread, you were recommended to save around $800 - and if it were me, I would wait until I had this amount.
However, if you do want to build now, then you should be spending as much as possible on a video card - it dictates gaming performace that much. Don't settle for a substandard card as a stop-gap. If you can't afford a 7600 series card now, then get the motherboard with on-board video and wait until you can. FK |
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08-11-2006, 02:08 PM
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OIc i what u mean well i cant really "saveup" another 300 dollars lol
since i have onboard video i know i can wait ill take your advice and save up for a GT or something
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08-11-2006, 02:42 PM
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$800 would get you into the 2GB RAM/Dual Core Processor/7900GT video card range which would game very well indeed.
Regardless, you've done well with your budget. Save for that 7600GT and you'll have a decent gaming system FK |
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08-11-2006, 02:49 PM
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08-11-2006, 02:52 PM
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Definitely serious, given AMD recent price drop in the wake of Intel's core duo. For example...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103735 FK |
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08-11-2006, 10:55 PM
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well for my goal at video card im going with this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102688 seems like a fantastic deal $120 + 30 rebate! but the reviewers complain its LOUD how do u make a video card more quiet? also do i need any extra fans or anything for my build? and... how do i determine whether 450w is TOO MUCH or TOO little or just enough for my chosen parts? |
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