People Having Alot Of Probs building..me 2?

[Chazell29]

So as most of you "helpers" (thats what i have decided to call you because you are the ones that know what your talking about and are going around here helping everyone, which we all greatly appreciate) know, i havn't built my pc yet. but i have been reading over posts with problems, just ot see what the problems were....but when i build my pc im affraid im going to run into some of these problems...are problems normal? do they occurr alot? do you think ill run into problems?

[juppy]

It's impossible to tell whether you'll have problems or not really. There are ways you can limit HOW MANY problems you have though. For one, having a good idea of how to build it before you start helps (like by reading through the "How To Build Your Own PC" section here at PCMech). Another thing is selecting "good" quality parts. The more cheapo parts you buy, usually the more problems you're going to have. Do some research on what parts are good and what ones are not and make your selections from that knowledge. Not sure if somethings good or compatible? Just post a list of your parts choices and ask for others to check it out for you. Members do that all the time here. And if you do run into problems with the build, well, that's what this forum is here for, isn't it?

[Chazell29]

yeah i posted my list and i guess i had crappy stuff so they told me better stuff to get which i changed my list, and i already did read through the guide, and ill read through it again before i buy my parts, and again before i assemble it, and again while im doing it, lol, you can't read it enough, that way you pick up more details you may have missed the other times

[juppy]

Originally Posted by Chazell29 lol, you can't read it enough, that way you pick up more details you may have missed the other times

How true.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Chazell29 but i have been reading over posts with problems, just ot see what the problems were....but when i build my pc im affraid im going to run into some of these problems.

The reason you're seeing so many threads about problems during builds is because this forum is here to help people with computer build problems. People who don't have problems when they build their computer won't post a thread here.

Originally Posted by Chazell29 ...are problems normal?

They happen.

Originally Posted by Chazell29 do they occurr alot?

Well, if you consider this web site is accessible by almost anyone in the world then you have almost 7 billion potential people who might have a problem building a computer...and yeah, that would be a lot. But if you look at a much smaller sampling of people (like the regulars here who build computers on a regular basis) then the occurrence of problems goes way down. I've built roughly 100 computers to date and I did have more problems when I built my first 10 computers than when I built my last 10 computers. But this can be partly attributed to personal experience and partly to the quality control standards of the computer parts manufacturers. I have more experience now and rarely have problems when I assemble a computer. Manufacturing techniques are much better now then they were back in 1997 (when I built my first computer) and the chances of getting good parts is higher now than before. But this doesn't mean I'll never have a problem in a future build. Problems happen.

Originally Posted by Chazell29 do you think ill run into problems?

Based on the fact that this is your first build the chances that you'll run into a problem or two is higher than if this was your 10th, 20th or 100th build. But you can improve your chances by making sure you pick out the right parts for your computer and that you read a good "Build Your Own Computer" tutorial a few times before you start your build. And be sure to read the motherboard manual front to back a few times. Too many new builders don't read the motherboard manual and miss important information about setting up the motherboard properly and end up with a computer that doesn't start up the first time.

So pick out the right parts, go over a good tutorial, read the motherboard manual a few times and you'll reduce the chances of having problems with your first build.

Cricket

[Chazell29]

Originally Posted by Cricket So pick out the right parts

OK, I think I have the right parts, I posted on here, and I finally got my list compossed of what everyone told me, I beleive you helped me out with that too

Originally Posted by Cricket go over a good tutorial

The one on this website is a good one right? I have read it once, will read it again before i buy my parts, read it probably a couple more times before the parts get here, and then ill read it extra carefully when building

Originally Posted by Cricket read the motherboard manual a few times

I'll do that, what I was planning on doing was reading each manual before I got started, then I was going to read the manual of each part before I installed it.

So Heres a situation:
Situation: I'm installing my processor
Steps:
1. Read Processor Manual
2. Read Motherboard Manual
3. Read either of those again if neccessary
4. Read the guide on this step. (don't build yet)
5. Read the guide (buidling)

and i'll do that with everyone, ill read each manual for each part im installing, so by the end ill have read the mobo manual prob like 15 times (reading it before i start as well)

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Chazell29 The one on this website is a good one right?

Yes, it's a good basic tutorial.

This tutorial is pretty good too...lots of pictures.

Cricket

[Chazell29]

Originally Posted by Cricket Yes, it's a good basic tutorial. This tutorial is pretty good too...lots of pictures. Cricket

thank you
into my favorites it goes

[Chazell29]

how do i know if my case uses rails for like the cd-rom drive?

[Cricket]

What case are you planning to use? Got a link?

Cricket

[Chazell29]

yupp
XG Viper CA-V2-WOP-R Red Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811106012

[Cricket]

That case does not use drive rails. You secure the drive into the drive bay with screws.

Cricket

[Chazell29]

dang the rails were nifty haha
so does that mean im going to have to take off both sides of the case to screw it on?

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by Chazell29 so does that mean im going to have to take off both sides of the case to screw it on?

Yes.

Cricket

[Chazell29]

yay more work
haha
shouldn't be to hard

[blue60007]

Originally Posted by Chazell29 dang the rails were nifty haha so does that mean im going to have to take off both sides of the case to screw it on?

Make sure you install the optical drive(s) before the motherboard.

[Chazell29]

Originally Posted by blue60007 Make sure you install the optical drive(s) before the motherboard.

yeah i don't htink the guide on here said to do that, but this other one that cricket posted said to do that.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by blue60007 Make sure you install the optical drive(s) before the motherboard.

Why? I usually install the motherboard before any of the drives...I even take the power supply out and install it back in after the motherboard is mounted. I like to install the motherboard into a completely empty case and then work from there.

Cricket

[blue60007]

Yeah, and I say that from experience...my first build I installed the motherboard before the optical drive. Kinda hard to put the screws in the other side with the motherboard installed.

EDIT:
Oh, I said that since my first case, the motherboard mounted directly to the right side panel...other cases have a seperate panel so you can remove the right panel without removing the motherboard. I guess look at how your case is set-up - if the motherboard mounts directly to the side panel install the drives first, but if you can remove the right panel without taking the motherboad with it, install drives later. I never really thought about the difference between that first case and other cases, so I've always installed drives first.

[Chazell29]

yeah but the one that cricket posted (guide) is kinda confussing, i liked the guide on here, it doesn't have pictures but its straight forward. I'm going to use the guide on this website, and if i don't get something or i need a pictrue because i odn't know what it look slike ill visit the other site

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by blue60007 Kinda hard to put the screws in the other side with the motherboard installed.

I've never run into that before with the 5.25" drive bays, but I don't use cases with removeable motherboard mounting trays (which may explain why).

Originally Posted by blue60007 I guess you could remove the motherboard tray with the motherboard installed (the right panel) to put the screws on that side of the case? I suppose as long as everything gets installed it doesn't make that much difference what order...just best to do what ever is easiest. Also I imagine it would depend on the case...some cases might be tight fitting the motherboard in with optical drive(s) installed...larger ones would be easier to do.

The length of the optical drives are another factor too...older CD-ROM drives seemed to be much longer than today's optical drives. The last few Lite-On DVD burners I installed were almost an inch shorter than the old Sony 52X CD-ROM drives I used to install. With the older optical drives I had to always mount the longest one in the top 5.25" drive bay and hope the other drive (burner or reader) was short enough not to interfere with the memory slots on the motherboard. Of course using deeper cases (like some InWin cases) will make the depth of an optical drive less of an issue.

Cricket

[blue60007]

Originally Posted by Cricket I've never run into that before with the 5.25" drive bays, but I don't use cases with removeable motherboard mounting trays (which may explain why).

Yeah, see my edit above...I think you replied before I made the final edit (or at least started typing). I had never thought about the difference between how some cases mount motherboards (directly on the panel or on a seperate plane).

Chazell, it looks like your case has a seperate motherboard tray and right panel (but it's hard to tell). If that's the case (sorry about the pun!), you could install the optical drives later (and probably should to eliminate the possibility of the optical drive of getting the way).