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09-02-2006, 09:09 PM
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Chop Chop
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Friend's Gaming Rig
My friend wants me to build him a computer for gaming (mainly WoW). He said his budget was max $800 including a monitor and periphials. So I put this together. For some reason I went with intel, though it doesn't matter, if AMD will end up being cheaper, than that's fine. I said it doesn't need to be great now, but he wants upgradability. I tried to get that, but what do you think? Does everything look OK?
Thanks! CPU: Intel Pentium 4 531 Prescott 3.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116230) - $95 Motherboard: ABIT IL8 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127231) - $90 RAM: A-DATA Vitesta 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit System Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211012) - $85 Video Card: PNY VCG7300SXPB Geforce 7300GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Low Profile Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133016) - $80 PSU: FSP Group (Fortron Source) FSP400-60THN-R ATX 400W Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104935) - $70 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3808110AS 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148107) - $50 Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106013) - $35 Floppy: Use Old OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116056) - $90 Total: $595 |
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09-02-2006, 09:36 PM
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Intel is fine but I suggest you make a few changes..
I suggest this Cpu instead. Skip that abit and get something like this: Asus P5LD2 This memory instead: Corsair VS 2x512mb That card isnt much of a gamer. I highly suggest this one- X1600XT OR if that one isnt absolutely possible. Then this one: X1600Pro That psu is great. But this one is way better for the price. Enhance 500W If that still too much, I then suggest you look into a 939 system. You will get more bang for your buck for pure gaming.
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09-02-2006, 09:57 PM
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At the very least, don't get an OEM motherboard - you'll be missing a lot of essentials like the cables (SATA, IDE, etc).
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09-02-2006, 10:09 PM
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I have a Pentium 4 processor very similar to that one. It runs games fine. The only thing that I do not like is not being able to toggle games and other apps quickly.
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09-03-2006, 05:35 AM
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"At the very least, don't get an OEM motherboard - you'll be missing a lot of essentials like the cables (SATA, IDE, etc)." Yes, DO NOT get an OEM mo/bo. Well, you can but it means no fancy package, and everything you would get with a retail, you have to get sepratly. OEM HDD is fine. Everything elce has been pritty much said
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09-03-2006, 10:56 AM
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09-03-2006, 11:52 AM
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Did the OEM board come with the same warranty as a Retail board? Last edited by blue60007; 09-03-2006 at 11:54 AM. |
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09-03-2006, 12:02 PM
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09-05-2006, 12:28 PM
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OEM motherboards often have a shorter warranty than retail. The last OEM board I bought was missing the I/O shield. Not worth the insignificant savings. OEM motherboards are designed for system builders who buy them in lots of 20 and they carry the warranty coverage themselves.
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09-10-2006, 08:15 PM
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Chop Chop
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Sorry, I forgot about this! All right, so no OEM motherboard. That's fine, I didn't even realize it was OEM. All of Mr. Ferrari's suggestions work. I will go with the X1600PRO, which brings the total to about $700. That should leave room for a used CRT, case, and periphials.
Thanks for the help! CPU: Intel Pentium D 915 Presler 2.8GHz 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116253) - $130 Motherboard: ASUS P5LD2 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131538) - $110 RAM: CORSAIR VALUE SELECT 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) System Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145568) - $120 Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100144L Radeon X1600PRO 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102651) - $90 PSU: Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ATX12V Rev.2.2 (24/20+8/4+6), 80+ RoHS, Quiet PSU (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5150GH) - $70 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3808110AS 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148107) - $50 Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106013) - $35 Floppy: Use Old OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116056) - $90 Total $700 (no shipping) |
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10-23-2006, 09:14 PM
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Chop Chop
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My friend's got the money for this computer now and wants me to order the parts and build it. The motherboard I picked is out of stock now, so could I with with this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121289 and this graphics card (the one I picked is not there anymore): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102688 I think everything else is the same. Thanks! |
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10-23-2006, 09:19 PM
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I suggest these instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131048 That video card is fine but how about this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143049 Last edited by newbuilder14; 10-23-2006 at 09:23 PM. |
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10-24-2006, 03:29 PM
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Chop Chop
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Does that motherboard support Pentium D processors?
The graphics card is too expensive, he wanted to keep this under $800. |
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10-24-2006, 03:55 PM
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10-24-2006, 04:10 PM
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catcon, after the MIR,the 7600GT is actually $13 cheaper than the x850 you had suggested, granted, you have to deal with a rebate.
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10-24-2006, 06:37 PM
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7600gt is the best choice in my opinion.
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10-24-2006, 09:14 PM
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Chop Chop
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I'll have to talk to my friend. He may not want to deal with the rebate. I will go with the Asus motherboard, though.
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10-24-2006, 09:20 PM
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How about downgrading to a Pentium D 805 processor and spending more on the video card? That's what I would do. I used a Pentium D 805 and it is very fast.
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10-29-2006, 04:45 PM
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I order the parts and went with the 7600GT. So I should get them this week sometime.
Thanks for the help! |
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10-29-2006, 05:12 PM
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Did you get the Pentium D 805?
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10-30-2006, 09:52 PM
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Chop Chop
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No, I kept the 915, it was still in his budget.
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11-03-2006, 04:43 PM
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Chop Chop
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I got all the parts today except the PSU (UPS left it at the warehouse...). I guess I can start some work on it though. So I have a few questions:
1) Does this mobo need a BIOS flash to support the Pentium D? 2) For dual channel memory, do I put one stick in both off the colored slots (in this case one stick in each yellow slot)? Or do I put one in the yellow one and one in the black one? Thanks! |
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11-03-2006, 04:45 PM
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Depends on which bios revision it came with.
Yes yellow with yellow, or whatever your motherboard manual says. Read the manual. |
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11-03-2006, 05:54 PM
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The manual just says "For dual-channel configuration, the total size of memory module(s) instelled per channel must be the same (DIMM_A1 + DIMM_A2 = B1 + B2)" And the yellow ones are A1 and B1 and the black ones are B1 and B2.
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11-03-2006, 06:01 PM
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Well try the same colors at first and then at post make sure it says dual channel.
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11-03-2006, 08:43 PM
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If you're not sure, I suppose it won't hurt to try different combinations to see what works.
Is this the motherboard you ended up with? I checked ASUS' support page. It says this: Pentium D 915(2.8GHz, 800 FSB, L2 4MB, revC1, without VT function) ALL 1103 Pentium D 915(2.8GHz, 800 FSB, L2 4MB, revD0,without VT function) ALL 1302 There's probably a sticker on the BIOS chip (on the board) that tells you the version. If you got the revision 2 version, it supports C2D out of the box, so I have to assume it supports all the older CPU's as well out of the box. |
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11-03-2006, 09:43 PM
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Yeah, on the box it says supports C2D and revision two, so I guess it'll work.
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11-06-2006, 05:50 PM
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Well I got everything installed, but there are a fwe issues.
1) I always get a warning that says a Ultra ATA 66 (or faster) drive has been installed and has been slowed down to Ultra33. I guess because of the connection. I'm not sure where else I can connect this, though. The DVD drive still works, but I guess it runs slower. Any ideas? 2) When I try to install Windows, right after it loads all the files and starts Windows, it crashes and says an error occured. It tells me to check my hard drive for viruses and to unistall it and restart. I tried install the RAID drivers but that didn't do anything. BIOS detects the drive and I have it set to run as a Standard IDE drive. The other two options are RAID and AHCI. Any ideas there? Thanks! |
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11-06-2006, 08:20 PM
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I tired tried lots of different combinations of settings and none seem to work so far. I have tried a different SATA port and cable and nothing. I really stumped....
EDIT: This is the error STOP 0x0000007B (0xF7C7A524, 0xC00000034, 0x0000000, 0x00000000) Last edited by catacon; 11-06-2006 at 09:17 PM. |
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