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09-08-2006, 12:42 AM
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Good Cheap Comp.
well i have a Compaq pasiro from 2000 and i think its time for an upgrade
I really dont know what im looking for games i would like to play are HL:2 mabye world of warcraft and just games around those needs I have a ATI radeon 9200 256 should i be able to use this one? so this is what i was thinking, i could use a Pentium 4 becasue those are coming down in price what i want in my PC is prob, or AMD is fine also 1-2 gigs of memory 256 graphics card windows XP aroudn 2 GHz or more if i have the money 250 gig HD......or less, mabye 120? my budget isn't that high mabye 500-600? Thanks guys I hope this is clear enough |
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09-08-2006, 04:32 AM
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Is that radeon 9200 AGP or PCI-E?
Right now the cheapest lga-775 CPU I see on newegg is a dual core Pentium D805 for 95 bucks. Antec sonata 2 case/psu 90 bucks Intel or ASUS 945 chipset motherboard with whatever features you need roughly 75-120 dollars. Liteon dvd burner about 40-50 bucks. Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $67.99 2X512Mb RAM about $100 XP Home w/SP2 OEM about 90 dollars Not a gamer, so I don't know whether that Radeon 92000 card will be sufficient for your games or not. Parts above will run in the 550-600 range and would be good if your old video card is reused. If that video card is a little weak for running those games, you could use it temporarily untill you save up enough cash to upgrade it to a better one. One thing not to do is blow the budget on a high end expensive video card and skimp on the rest of the build by using junk parts from places like ECS and aspire.
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09-08-2006, 04:46 AM
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There's a Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB Hard Drive on sale at compusa for 50 bucks after rebate, which is online so no mailing in anything.
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...ct_code=338173 I think its the retail version of what jay suggested |
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09-08-2006, 06:39 AM
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With a budget of 500-600 just go to Dell.com and look at the refurbished computers in their outlet. You can get a nice gaming system for that price. They come with a 1 year warranty and you can't build a system for what they sell the refurbs for.
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09-08-2006, 08:27 AM
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Be careful with Dells - a lot of them do not have video cards and don't even have an AGP or PCI-Ex16 slot to install one. Even the ones that do tend to come with low end cards.
Your 9200 is not suitable for modern games - it's not a gaming card. Building a gamer for $500-600 is not really feasible - you need to be looking at $800 or more to do it right. |
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09-08-2006, 08:36 AM
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my dell dimension 4500S is a neat little machine, and the most well-built computer i've personally seen. However, like glc mentioned, it is nearly impossible to upgrade anything in it except the ram and an optical drive. To install a second IDE hard drive i had to take out my floppy drive...
I wouldn't get a Dell refurb unless you know exactly what you are getting and are happy with it. If you are considering one, make sure to ask here about it. EDIT: i just went to Dell.com to try and see if i could find something that i would buy within the 501-1000 dollar value, and I found no systems on any search... so, i wouldn't even consider the Dell refurbs as an option. Last edited by DarkPacMan77; 09-08-2006 at 08:42 AM. |
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09-08-2006, 08:58 AM
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The lowest end current Dell that has a video card slot is an E510. The ones in the outlet start at $409, but with onboard video. Adding your own video card is an option as long as you don't go too crazy and overload the power supply. The Dell factory video card options are all Turbocache or Hypermemory.
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09-08-2006, 09:02 AM
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i guess that is a decent offer... personally i would want to put a $250-300 gpu in it... so i'd most likely just want to build it for the experience of it... but that is just me.
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09-08-2006, 09:13 AM
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A $250 video card is not an option when your budget is $500 to $600. There are plenty of $150 or less video cards that will handle the above mentioned games. $100 will get you a PCI-E 7600GS.
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09-08-2006, 04:51 PM
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E 510 Video Cards suck. Plan on replacing the Video Card if you buy one of those. My neighbor had hers fail, twice. The second time, she listened to me and had her computer guy install a top-line. My dentist had the same problem. I have replaced one for a family at my neice's ballet studio. Other than that one issue, they all say that E 510 is a great PC. By the way, P4 prices are not going down (as of yet) - they're still expensive. Good luck !
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09-08-2006, 05:22 PM
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Chuck, the E510 comes standard with onboard video. Video cards are an OPTION as I already indicated.
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09-08-2006, 07:14 PM
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no-no-no.................unless they have changed something in the past two months. E 310 comes standard with onboard video. E 510 offers something like an X300 type card. I'll have to check. I haven't even looked at DELL's fall line up, so they may well have changed something. They have been cutting corners on everything lately.
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09-08-2006, 07:18 PM
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shot over there and double checked - it's a PCI express / 128mb / X300. Whatever it is, it's a piece of crap. Been there - done that. That was one of the things that discouraged me from buying one. I'm not buying any more prebuilts anyway.
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09-08-2006, 07:30 PM
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I used an X1600 Pro by Sapphire. Had to go to my notebook - couldn't dig up the invoice.
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09-08-2006, 07:55 PM
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That drove me crazy! They have changed some the configurations. Some of the models (now) are using the 950 Graphics Accelerator. That is a very recent change. OK - sorry. Now I'm going back to look at DELL again to see what other surprises are in store. I've noticed they've also changed their main CPU to an 805. At one time, they offered the 650 P4 and higher end 9Ds as a standard. My foot is in mouth.
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09-08-2006, 09:08 PM
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It's Not Your Father's E 510.......
Believe it or not, I've spent the time since my last post watching Dan Ackerman videos on CNET. I was pretty much an authority on DELLs at one time. Not any more. I have 3 in this house. In fact, the one sitting in front of me is an E 310 case with E 510 insides. I have a 7300 GT, 2 Gigs, a 640 P4 and a Silencer 470 PSU. I won't tell you how I got it that way. I wanted the case. I liked the silver BTX case, but I didn't like what the E 310 had to offer. I've become so used to dealing with custom builds that I have become severely out of date with prebuilt stuff. BUT - that's why I was ranting and raving - because I knew ! Anyway, I'm not voicing opinions on prebuilts anymore. If I can help out with repair problems, I will. I will say that DELL has made some drastic changes with their mid to lower -end models, and they are very disappointing. I'm glad that I found that this place and I'm glad that I build them now. Sorry for the confusion.
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09-08-2006, 09:12 PM
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Chuck, two things. 1. I merged your new thread with this one since it was related. 2. Please don't make multiple postings in a row. Use the EDIT button. |
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09-09-2006, 08:23 AM
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Yeah. Sorry about that. I was a raving lunatic last nite! That one really threw me. It's only been (like) since June that they have made all of those product changes. I stayed up all nite, boiling. I had forgotten that things change overnite in the PC world. I even opened up my case just to make sure that I hadn't completely lost mind! Life will go on.
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09-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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I don't see a problem with using the GMA 950 as standard on the E510 now. First off, it's already *there* and has been there all along. Second, it keeps the price down. Third, it allows, as it always has, for the purchaser to add a card of choice and not have to take the Turbocache or Hypermemory cards that Dell offers.
Note that the E310 does not have a PCI-E slot so that model is NOT suitable for basing a gaming build on. (Note that even the X300SE Hypermemory card is a better gamer than the 9200 - and the GMA 950 is probably pretty similar to the 9200) Last edited by glc; 09-09-2006 at 12:40 PM. |
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09-09-2006, 12:56 PM
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so what do u guys personally think i should get........does the case really matter that much? and i saw on another thread, a graphics card that looked good for like 100 bucks, i dont need pinpiont graphics, just something to run the games.....................
and AMD or Intel? i think ill go w/ the "older stuff" like P4 .....around that era Thanks for all the help so far guys 
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09-09-2006, 01:11 PM
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Back again - just got in. You need a well ventilated case. The particular E 310 case, I just wanted. GLC's right about the E 310. It has two PCI slots an a PCIe x 1 - not suitable at all for advanced video upgrade. That's why I ended up with a 510 board in mine. I couldn't handle that.I've also noticed that the E 510 is only offering 512 MB RAM as a stock option now. Give me a break! If you comapare the 649. E 510 from June 2006 to the 649. E 510 of September 2006, you will see two different machines. Pretty much.
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09-09-2006, 01:24 PM
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However, you can get a substantial discount by getting an E510 out of the Dell outlet if you are willing to take a refurbished unit.
If you build your own, a $100 video card will do a fine job. Do not go for old technology - go for the newest stuff you can get in the appropriate price range. I'd go for AMD 939 or Intel 775, dual core if you can afford it. |
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09-09-2006, 10:01 PM
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hows this sound so far?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121048 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116001 now i need a case CD-rom drive, graphics card, generic sound card is fine for me, RAM................ummmmmmmmmm what else am i missing? |
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09-10-2006, 09:04 AM
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SUNDAY MORNING UPDATE: Not trying to sidetrack here, but I spent most of yesterday researching this matter. I went over to the guys house - the local DELL distributor who oredered my system and has been selling DELLS since 1996 and asked him if I was losing my mind. I wasn't. The E 510 came standard with an ATI RADEON X300 128 MB Hyper Memory PCI EXPRESS Video Card until the last week of June, this year. That particular E 510 is now the XPS 400. In theory. It did have a graphix chip, which was disabled in the BIOS, which is why I never paid any attention to it. According to him (though) it was the 900 or m910 chip. The board that he installed in mine is a DV5150 X series, which is non-available these days. The new E510 comes standard with GMA 950 and Video Cards options. I knew that I wasn't crazy. Hey! By current standards, I now have an XPS board in my system! I've moved up and didn't even know it! NOW ! No more beating on dead horses. I'm staying away from this from now on.
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09-10-2006, 09:58 AM
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I would make sure whichever case you get has a good quality power supply in it. I would also get a DVD burner instead of a CD-ROM drive. Cricket
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09-10-2006, 11:45 AM
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Here's a 7600GS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130029 I wouldn't really go any lower for a gaming rig. A couple choices on RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145526 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145527
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09-10-2006, 12:46 PM
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If you are going to buy a Pentium-D and a video card, don't get a G965 board. Get an Asus P5LD2, it's solid proven technology.
Recommended case is Antec Sonata II. It comes with a quality power supply. |
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09-10-2006, 12:48 PM
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thanks for all ur hlep so far guys.....................does anyone have a cupon code or a Promotional code for new egg?.........i really dont know what they are and if i can save money i will
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09-10-2006, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131006R |
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09-10-2006, 12:54 PM
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