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Old 09-09-2006, 03:53 PM   #1
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I'm almost ready to order

Can you all confirm that these are good for gaming? Thanks, I'll probably end soon before the end of the month.

Budget:
Gigabyte NF4 Motherboard
Athlon 64 3800+ x2 skt. 939
2x512mb Corsair Value Select
160gb WD 16mb cache
fsp 450w or similar
pny 7600gt
nec dvd rw
a case that I find
xp home

Dream:
Asus P5W DH or P5B Deluxe
e6600
2gb Corsair XMS2
250gb WD se16
good power supply
x1900xt or similar
nec dvd rw
case that I find
xp pro

Or something in between... depends on my budget. I know many of you will say that I should get a Lite On dvd burner, but I don't like them, had bad experiences.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:45 PM   #2
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bit of a price difference between the two :P

Both systems will game - the latter better than the former obviously, but the big difference in gaming performance is the video card.

Personally, I'd build the AMD system with 2GBs of RAM and the X1900XT / 7900GT for a top gaming system without spending huge money.

You've got the right idea with the quality of your components overall

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Old 09-09-2006, 05:07 PM   #3
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For your build, go with Antec Sonata II. Great case, comes with 450 W QUALITY power supply, and costs you $80-100 depending on if you catch them on sale or not. I just finished building mine (which looks very similar to your dream build) and right now everything's working great!

If you are using the Sonata II and the P5W dh Deluxe, make sure to set the Front Audio Bios to AC 97 or else the sound won't work. Also, here's a couple lessons I learned during my build:

1) There are TWO power connectors between the motherboard and power supply, the 24 pin one and a 4 pin one. Make sure you have both connected.

2) If you're getting a 7900GT, make sure to install the extra power cable that comes with it or else you will be getting a 0.5 fps framerate.
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Old 09-09-2006, 07:44 PM   #4
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I've got an NEC drive in this rig, and used them before, and they are good drives (wow, that's a clunky sentence). Haven't used LITE-ON's, so I can't really compare.
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Old 09-09-2006, 08:22 PM   #5
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I suggest the Enhance 500W

There is no competitor for the price.
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:48 PM   #6
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Thanks Ferrari, however I think I'd rather order all my parts from Newegg just to make it easy.

This is what I've put together so far

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144102 Do I need more than 2x80mm fans?
Power Supply: I never thought I'd ask for suggestions, but I am. I'm unsure if the Forton Source 450w will be sufficient.
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115005
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131030
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145566 - Should I get anything cheaper?
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151118
Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130033
I'll also get a keyboard, mouse, OS, monitor, etc. Anybody mind recommending a good budget wireless PCI adapter for a wireless network? Am I missing anything else?

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Old 09-25-2006, 04:08 PM   #7
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The fortron 450w would probably power that system ok. Personally, though, I'd get a 500w+ power supply to give myself some headroom.

One intake fan, one exhaust fan should provide you with sufficient cooling. Check your temperatures before thinking about more cooling.

I'd go for this PCI Wireless card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124115

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Old 09-25-2006, 04:10 PM   #8
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This is what I've put together so far

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144102 Do I need more than 2x80mm fans?
No, but I'd replace the 80mm on the rear of the case with a 92mm or 120mm (looks like there is mounting holes for a 120mm fan).
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Power Supply: I never thought I'd ask for suggestions, but I am. I'm unsure if the Forton Source 450w will be sufficient.
Can't really say until you tell us which video card you're going to use.
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RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145566 - Should I get anything cheaper?
That's up to you...but you really can't go wrong with Corsair right now.
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I wouldn't get a Samsung optical drive...known to be unreliable. I'd get a Lite-On or NED instead.
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Anybody mind recommending a good budget wireless PCI adapter for a wireless network?
How much you willing to spend on that? I mostly use Linksys networking components but take a look at D-Link.
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Am I missing anything else?
Video card?

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Old 09-25-2006, 04:52 PM   #9
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Sorry, I must've added it just after you saw this topic. Video card will be determined soon, I'm thinking of a 7900gt, many people that play CSS say they have a 7900gt. Should I take this over the x1900xt?
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If you can afford a X1900XT then go for it, it will run laps around that 7900gt.

Otherwise any budget for the psu?
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The 256mb x1900xt? Because that is cheaper than the 7900gt at the moment. Budget for PSU I guess is somewhere around the $50-80 range.
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The 256mb x1900xt? Because that is cheaper than the 7900gt at the moment.
Yes

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Budget for PSU I guess is somewhere around the $50-80 range.
Enermax Noisetaker 420W
Sparkle 460W
This is the minimum I would use for the x1900xt.

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Old 09-25-2006, 05:44 PM   #13
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Newegg has the Antec Smartpower 500w Power Supply for $70, which will give you some headroom for that powerful video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937

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Old 09-27-2006, 02:43 PM   #14
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If I were to use a Gigabyte DS3 + Kingston 1gb DDR2667 + e6300 + x1600pro should that run games decently on a budget? I'm hoping 120fps+, but am weary with using that low priced video card, and am on a budget. What is the best budget card that will be a good performer?
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:10 PM   #15
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The X1600PRO will not handle new games at 120+fps. I would choose the 7600GT if you're on a budget.
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Concur with the 7600GT suggestion. Tom's hardware have just written a gude on the best video cards in various price brackets. The 7600GT is voted the best card in its bracket - although the prices are in GBP, the relative performances work for both sides of the pond

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/09/26..._uk/page2.html

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Don't necessarily expect 120+ FPS for modern games on high settings...you'll have smooth video over 40-50 fps. The 7600GT or X1600Pro should be able to handle the newest games on decent settings in that FPS range (all depends on the game and settings really)

Here's the version with American $$:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/...for_the_money/
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