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09-13-2006, 06:04 PM
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First time builder needs help!
I am building a computer for the first time, Ive just bought a lot Dells before. I can spend up to around $1,500.
The memory stick I want to get is DDR2 675 x2 1GB for 2GB total, my motherboard says "DDR2 Standard: DDR2 800" So do I have to get a DDR2 800 type of memory? Do you think the fans on the case will keep everything cool enough? What will I need in my computer to be able to connect to the internet with a cable modem? Is the power supply good enough for everything to run? I will be using USB mouse, keyboard, printer, webcam, and a headphone/mic combo. I might want to overclock my processor to about 3.0 - 3.2Ghz will it be cool and have enough power? If anyone has suggestions I would LOVE to know what you think! Which case should I pick? Or have another you like? Case 1 (6 80mm fans, noisey) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144007 Case 2 (1 80mm and 3 120mm fans, not so noisey) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146018 Case 3 (3 120mm fans but PSU far away from mobo) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129154 Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 This should be compatable with the motherboard right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003 Motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel I hear its a good mobo for overclocking my processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131028 Memory 1: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Is this compatable with the mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145015 Memory 2: CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit ONLY if the one above is not compatable http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145566 Video Card: ASUS EN7600GS SILENT/HTD/512M Geforce 7600GS 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 It has no fan only a heatsink. Is that ok? Will I need more than one of these to play high end games? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121007 Power Supply: Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL Is 550 enough Watts? I think it will be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102188 DVD Drive: SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827101131 DVD Burner: NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE/ATAPI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152058 Quick Specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz ASUS P5B Deluxe Intel P965 Express CORSAIR XMS2 2GB DDR2 675 PC2 5400 ASUS EN7600GS SILENT Geforce 7600GS 512MB Antec TRUEPOWERII 550W Western Digital Caviar 250GB 7200 RPM Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM NEC Black 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW Last edited by SamMcMackin; 09-13-2006 at 06:52 PM. |
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09-13-2006, 07:47 PM
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dvd rom: get a lite-on. the oem version comes with nero software
Video card that is not a good one how important is graphics to u and what games do u play RAM: get the memory 1 that u listed u will want 2gigs I THINK the power supply will be enough dont forget windows xp oem version is 90 but i guess u probably have one already either get case 2 or case 3 |
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09-13-2006, 08:25 PM
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I had one PNY Verto GeForce 6600 256MB DDR AGP Graphics Card in my old system and I could run 99% of games on at least mid-range settings. The only game I found I couldn't play at all was Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. That was a 256MB... so will one 512MB card be good enough for mid-high range settings on games?
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09-13-2006, 08:29 PM
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What resolution will you be playing games on? I would recommend the 7900GT, quite a bit better than the 7600GS, and within your 1500$ budget.
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09-13-2006, 09:05 PM
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I never go above 1024x768, I am not THAT into games where I need flawless graphics at huge resolutions. What is important pixel pipeline, high level gpu, 256MB, 512MB? I am still looking around for cards but...
what about: eVGA 512-P2-N548-TX Geforce 7600GS 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130021 or XFX PVT42EYDF3 Geforce 6800XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150154 what do you think of those? SLI them? What about this one? BFG Tech BFGR79256GTOCSINE Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143061 I need to know if my motherboard says "DDR2 Standard: DDR2 800" do I have to get a DDR2 800 type of memory? Last edited by SamMcMackin; 09-13-2006 at 09:29 PM. |
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09-13-2006, 11:13 PM
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I'm not sure if that motherboard supports SLI, and it would make more sense to get a 7900GT if pixel pipeline is more important, since it has 24, compared to the 7600GS's 12, and 6800XT's 8, I'd recommend XFX, or eVGA, the BFG is underclocked. eVGA offers a trade in policy also, so you could upgrade within three month and deduct the price you paid, but only if the retailer/e-tailer is on their approved vendor list.
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09-13-2006, 11:47 PM
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How is this one?
XFX PVT71PUDF3 Geforce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150184 |
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09-14-2006, 01:52 AM
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That one looks good for you, it's a 7900GS so it has 20 pixel pipelines, but since your only playing @ 1024x768 it should do you good for quite a while. Considering I have the 7900GT and I can play the latest games, 1680x1050 on high resolution.
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09-14-2006, 05:39 AM
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If your not big into your games a 7600GT would probably be fine. Although i wouldn't reccomend the BFG because of the cooler being so loud. It makes a really annoying whining noise.
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09-14-2006, 06:53 AM
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How important is it to get a 512MB vs a 256MB card? What are the differences between them?
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09-14-2006, 08:42 AM
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No, 512mb ram is not that important - yet.
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09-14-2006, 08:50 AM
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512 is a good way to "future proof" your system for a while. Near the end of the "next-gen" video game consoles, i imagine the PS3 and Xbox360 titles are going to be able to push themselves farther, and the pc versions will need a little extra to play with.
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09-14-2006, 08:54 AM
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No point in going 512mb if your card actually cant use even half of it. The only true cards that will be able to make full use 512mb ever would be the 7900GT or ati's higher end X1K series.
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09-14-2006, 10:35 AM
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Which one shoul I pick? Ive heard that 7900 series cards have a short lifespan, is that true?
1. XFX PVT73GUGD3 Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150182 $126.99 ($146.99 without rebate) 2. eVGA 512-P2-N548-TX Geforce 7600GS 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130021 $148.99 3. MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256EHD Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127217 $154.99 ($174.99 without rebate) 4. XFX PVT42EYDF3 Geforce 6800XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150154 $159.99 5. PNY VCG7600GXPB Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133150 $165.99 6. XFX PVT71PUDF3 Geforce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150184 $199.99 My old card was this piece: PNY Verto GeForce 6600 256MB DDR AGP http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1113954027220 So any of those I think will be a MAJOR improvement right?  thinking about these too: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034 Only difference is timings I think Last edited by SamMcMackin; 09-14-2006 at 12:56 PM. |
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09-14-2006, 02:33 PM
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Before I start let me first make a correction:
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 One of the downsides of posting at 7am. And the 7900gs would be the best out of those that you linked. They have fixed 7900GT issues mostly. If you can afford the GT go for it. With conroe ram timings wont make a difference. Just go with whatever is cheaper. |
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09-14-2006, 03:29 PM
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I really want to get this one its got a $40 mail in rebate! and its 7900GT, does it get your approval?
Leadtek PX7900GT TDH Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814122244 Do I need a network interface card in order to get on the web with my cable modem? So close to picking everything out!! Thanks for everyones help! |
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09-14-2006, 04:35 PM
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Mother boards today have ethernet built in.
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09-14-2006, 04:56 PM
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That would be fine. But just to make a suggestion.. If your looking for a card that will give you the maximum performance for your buck then why not the X1900XT 256MB- It will run 10 laps around that 7900GT. Then take a small break to slap it. Then run 10 more laps around it :P. Lol either is a great card. Both will run your games great . Your choice on the GFX and PSU. Otherwise you are set.
Last edited by Mr.Ferrari; 09-14-2006 at 04:59 PM. |
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09-14-2006, 10:39 PM
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Thanks a lot for the info!! Maybe my last questions:
That card is crossfire? is that the same as SLI but for ATI? and is crossfire compatable with my mobo? Is the motherboard I picked a good one? Is there another one I should be looking at? Dont you think 550 Watts is enough to power this machine? Last edited by SamMcMackin; 09-14-2006 at 10:47 PM. |
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09-14-2006, 11:21 PM
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1. The card I linked is not a crossfire card. However you can buy a crossfire card in the future if you need to. You need a crossfire 1900 + a normal X1900XT/X + crossfire capable mobo to run it. It differs from sli as it has a two different card requirement.
2. Yes crossfire is ati's version of sli. And no your motherboard is not compatible. You need a 975x chipset to be so. P5WDH, Intel bad axe 975 are a few examples. 3. The motherboard you picked out is rock stable as far as that goes. But only drawback is you wont be able to run crossfire, if that is something you need. 4. That psu for a crossfire setup or single card setup? For single its fine but for dual no. |
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09-14-2006, 11:40 PM
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you should put your interests and money into a single-graphics card build. To be honest, most people that experience graphics cards failing use sli or crossfire, or their psu is not powerful enough so they busted them.
finding a good, reliable gpu like the x1900xt or x1900xtx will be worth your money, and most likely worth the headaches you will save in the future. I think your build is just fine. |
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