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10-08-2006, 11:18 PM
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Mediocre dual core processor-
Just to follow up with that low budget system I was making for a friend, well it turns out he may like just a budget dual core setup. Still working under some constraints, don't want to spend more than what I'd pay at a store. I was looking at the Pentium D 805, but that seems to run rather hot, and I'd rather not see this happen: http://www.trelowney.net/pasta.jpg .
But anyway, what are some setup recommendations? Let's keep this under $500, as all we will be needing is Case/PSU, CPU, motherboard, RAM, HDD (80gb would be plenty, hopefully more), and DVD drive. T.I.A.
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10-08-2006, 11:22 PM
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10-08-2006, 11:42 PM
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Pentium D 805s do not run hot. They are some of the coolest running dual cores I've found. Used 3. The one I'm using at this very moment is running 95F. In C, it's usually 28 - 32. I'm using stock heatsink and fan (have case side duct) and 1 80 mm rear fan. That's it. Nothing fancy.
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10-08-2006, 11:44 PM
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+1 more reason I'm never trusting Newegg reviews again. Thank you so much Chuck, I think that's what I'll get. By the way, what motherboard should I use? I'm confused when it comes to this. Maybe something with onboard video. Remember, budget, so it should probably be more around the $50-75 range.
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10-08-2006, 11:59 PM
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10-09-2006, 12:11 AM
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10-09-2006, 12:42 AM
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10-09-2006, 01:58 AM
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The setup you're looking for sounds really similar to what I'm building. Right now I'm leaning towards an Athlon X2 3800+, 1GB ram, 160GB HD, and a DVD-RW. If you don't need a video card, look in my thread, someone suggested a good socket 939 mobo w/ onboard video for about 75...add that to my list and you should be at about $400, plus the case/psu. Even less if you decide to go with a smaller HD or plain DVD drive.
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10-09-2006, 07:46 AM
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I really wish Newegg still sold the 939 3800+ x2s.
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10-09-2006, 08:32 AM
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I think I've made up my mind:
Athlon 64 x2 3800+ (Skt. 939) 80 or 160gb SATA 512mb Corsair ValueSelect - no need for anymore - just office apps. Antec case w/ 380w psu Asus A8N-VM Liteon DVDROM I will purchase the CPU from ZZF and the other parts from Newegg. Last edited by newbuilder14; 10-09-2006 at 09:02 AM. |
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10-09-2006, 10:11 AM
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If you still want to consider Intel, use a 945G-based board and either a 805 or 915 processor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131041 |
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10-09-2006, 11:40 AM
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Thanks GLC, if I go the Intel route I will probably get what you suggested.
Foxconn case w/ psu Pentium D 805 512mb Corsair DDR2667 Liteon DVDROM 80gb WD SATA Asus P5L-MX |
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10-09-2006, 01:27 PM
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Looks like that board supports Core 2 Duo...for a future upgrade.
The 805 won't run too hot if you use the stock cooler and it's installed right.
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10-09-2006, 03:28 PM
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the pentium D's come in two different cores Presler and Smithfield
DO both of these cores run fairly cool and does just the presler run cool?? |
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10-09-2006, 04:46 PM
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805 has less cache, less fsb and runs hotter due to the 90nm cores, 915 or presler does run cooler due to the 65nm fabrication, more cache, and more fsb. Very little price diff between the two. Your choice.
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10-09-2006, 05:29 PM
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ok thx for the info
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10-09-2006, 09:14 PM
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10-10-2006, 01:54 PM
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Panama Red just did a build with it and he says it's fine. There is really no such thing as a low quality Asus board with an Intel chipset.
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10-10-2006, 04:46 PM
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Thanks GLC, I'm gonna go ahead and order those parts.
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10-10-2006, 09:23 PM
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Also bought the Sonata II instead. I just thought that case would be a bit too flimsy.
Wow I love Newegg ordered 10 minutes ago and already verified. Last edited by newbuilder14; 10-10-2006 at 09:33 PM. |
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10-11-2006, 12:42 AM
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Oh, I was just about to let you know about a case I found at radioshack for $30. Seems like a good deal.
Anyways, let me know how that build works out for you, I might be heading that route for my computer. (benchmarks would be nice, if possible) PS: how much was the total you paid for it? |
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10-11-2006, 02:20 AM
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The Foxconn TS-1 case is far from being flimsy. It's a very well constructed case, better than most in its price range. It's our standard case for our builds and has been for a couple years now. Nothing wrong with the Sonata but I had to set the record straight. For the extra you paid for the Sonata, you could have gotten the 915 processor.
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10-11-2006, 05:48 AM
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It wasn't that Foxconn that the person I was building this thought was a little cheap, it was the Antec NSK4400. Yes I could have gotten the 915, but for just office apps. I see no problem with the 805. I still paid less than $400 for it.
By the way, GLC, if you don't mind me asking, do you run a computer shop or business?
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10-11-2006, 10:47 AM
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10-11-2006, 10:53 AM
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I'm essentially a one man shop but I work for a friend of mine too.
805 is fine, I have a customer with about 6 CAD boxes and their 805 is the fastest one there, it even beats their 3.2 Northwood. It's on a Foxconn 945 board with a X700 video card. |
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10-11-2006, 02:52 PM
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The power supplies in the Sonata II cases seem to be dying a lot according to people at Newegg. However since my build will put a light load on the PSU, I should be fine, right?
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10-11-2006, 03:33 PM
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You have a tp 550 correct? It shouldnt be an issue.
My advice would be keep decent airflow in your case. The primary reason why these CWTs are dieng is due to poor quality control and overheating capacitors.. Last edited by Mr.Ferrari; 10-11-2006 at 03:36 PM. |
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10-11-2006, 03:47 PM
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No Ferrari, that is my other build. My new build will use the stock Antec Sonata II PSU.
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10-11-2006, 04:12 PM
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Negative points to Newegg for not allowing shipments to transit over the weekend. Now I won't get this package ontime for the customer. I usually do next day, don't know why I was so cheap this time..
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10-11-2006, 04:18 PM
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Hi,
In responce to the case power supply, mine started to go about 3-4 weeks ago,I've had the case since april of this year and I think it affected my mobo to the extent that I had to RMA to new egg for replacement and the power supply to Antec. They did state the power supply was bad. So if you do get the case, it might be wise idea to replace the ps as soon as possible. Just a little helpful hint.As for air flow I have 2 120mm fan(1 in the front of the case and 1 in the rear) I put the 2nd one in as I was building the computer. Jim Last edited by k9bliss; 10-11-2006 at 04:24 PM. |
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