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Intel or AMD build? $1300 budget
I have put together what I think are decent builds for a $1300 price tag. I am looking for suggestions on possible alternatives to what is listed. I am looking for the best build for this price tag that came handle gaming and basic office work for a teacher. I have been looking on Newegg.com, any other site I should look at for cheaper products? Thanks for any help you can give.
AMD- COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard $75.99 MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E-HD Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card $269.99 Xion PowerReal XON-600F14T-201 ATX12V V.2.01 600W Power Supply $89.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor $157.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 (2) Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $109.98 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 (2) NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R $59.98 $1,206.89 or Intel- COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 GIGABYTE GA-8N-SLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX Intel Motherboard $81.99 MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E-HD Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card $269.99 Xion PowerReal XON-600F14T-201 ATX12V V.2.01 600W Power Supply $89.99 Intel Pentium D 930 Presler 3.0GHz 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor $157.00 GeIL 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $114.99 (2) Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $109.98 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 (2) NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R $59.98 $1,195.89 Last edited by polom79; 10-13-2006 at 03:44 AM. |
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10-13-2006, 03:19 AM
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Spend a little bit more money on the processor and go with a core 2 duo, the E6300 is $180 at newegg and will blow your 2 alternatives completely out of the water.
If you do want to stick with one of those 2 choices, the amd will be a little bit faster. Here's a link that will give you all the numbers you could ever want on CPU performance. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html It would be great if you posted a price next to each of your component choices and maybe a link to newegg or another retailer. That saves us the trouble of having to look it up for each one.
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10-13-2006, 03:43 AM
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Intel or AMD? $1300 Budget Update
Updated products with prices from Newegg.com, are there any sites with better prices?
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10-13-2006, 04:14 AM
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New egg is about the best there is.. Less hassle decent prices and if you have to rma a item they do it with no hassle.. I have tried tiger direct and some other places, but they don't touch newegg when it comes to price, guarantee and customer service..
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10-13-2006, 05:22 AM
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Actually, you can do an excellent C2D build for that budget. I'd go with the C2D.
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10-13-2006, 05:52 AM
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So would I, however that AMD build looks nice. Just get a quality power supply, the one you selected really isn't.
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10-13-2006, 06:08 AM
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Yeah, for that price and power level I'd go with the Antec True Power 550 watt. I have it and it works great. It's powering an X2-4600+, X1900XT (512mb version), 4 HDs, 2 optical drives. It never breaks a sweat.
Here's a link to several. I have the one at the bottom that's currently sold out, but everything on that page should be very similar in terms of the stuff on the inside that counts. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 Last edited by mojo; 10-13-2006 at 06:15 AM. |
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10-13-2006, 06:14 AM
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It's out of stock at Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103931
Look for something from Seasonic, Enermax, Fortron Source, etc. |
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10-13-2006, 06:17 AM
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Did you not click my link? It looks like antec makes several similar ones. Yes, the one I have is out of stock, but pay $10 more (and actually the $10 is a rebate) and you can get the same thing with either one more fan, or the same thing with some pretty voltage meter.
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10-13-2006, 01:47 PM
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I would also not get a SLI motherboard for an Intel build. Use Intel chipsets. Get a P965 board such as an Asus P5B and a C2D E6300 - and get ram that's on the Asus QVL.
On the AMD build, consider upgrading to one of the Toledo core X2's. On both, concur with a different PSU. Antec has been having some issues lately, so I'd probably get something like a Fortron AX500-A 2.0. Need to cut costs a bit after these upgrades? Get a single Seagate 7200.10 SATA hard drive. It's got double the cache of those WD's and running 2 drives in RAID doesn't really do much for you. The 7200.10 is almost as fast as a Raptor. You can also save some bucks with an Acer monitor - they have models with DVI around $200 and they are as high quality as a Rosewill. If you are getting NEC burners, go retail with one of them so you get software - OEM is bare drive only. Last edited by glc; 10-13-2006 at 01:56 PM. |
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10-14-2006, 12:17 AM
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Just letting you know...newegg is not allways the cheapest...look around, sometimes tiger direct beats it, and sometimes smaller but still reliable stores beat it. Just do some research and you might save yourself a buck or two
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10-14-2006, 12:56 AM
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Well the other day I bought some parts from Fry's MB Intel D102GGC2 socket 775 CPU Intel PD 945 1GB (2x512) Kingston DDR2 PC4200. They charged me $437 returned them the next day after ordering these parts from newegg.com
ASUS P5PE-VM an Intel Pentium D 805 2.66GHZ Processor, and Corsair 1GB (2x512) DDR PC 3200 for only $238. It isant alwasy cheaper to buy from a local store... |
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10-14-2006, 02:39 PM
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Intel or AMD build? $1300 budget Update
I have decided to stick with one of these builds instead of going to the Core 2 Duo build. I have switched the power supply on both. Any other suggestions for a better mobo, ram, hd's, etc.
Thanks AMD- COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard $75.99 MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E-HD Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card $269.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor $157.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 (2) Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $109.98 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 (2) NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R $59.98 $1,028.89 or Intel- COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 GIGABYTE GA-8N-SLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX Intel Motherboard $81.99 MSI NX7900GT-VT2D256E-HD Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card $269.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply Intel Pentium D 930 Presler 3.0GHz 2 x 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core Processor $157.00 GeIL 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $114.99 (2) Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $109.98 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 (2) NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R $59.98 $1,087.90 |
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10-14-2006, 02:45 PM
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I'd go with the AMD.
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10-14-2006, 02:46 PM
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If you are going to stick with a Pentium-D as opposed to a C2D, you don't need DDR2-667 - you can do with DDR2-533 fine. In addition, for the HDD, consider the Seagate 320GB SATA HDD instead. Larger cache, longer warranty, larger capacity, cheaper price.
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I only build Intel, but between those 2, I'd pick the AMD because you haven't listened to my suggestions re: either build. Substandard motherboard and processor. The AMD has one of the few motherboard/processor combinations I would even consider.
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10-14-2006, 05:30 PM
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Going with the AMD Updated build...
I have made a few modifications to the build, but not sure if I am ready to buy. Any more suggestions...
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard $75.99 eVGA 256-P2-N584-AR Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $275.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply $96.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor $225.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 (2) Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $109.98 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 (2) NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R $59.98 $1,259.89 Last edited by polom79; 10-14-2006 at 05:47 PM. |
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10-14-2006, 05:36 PM
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The XION power supply junk (especially for what they are charging) - you'll want to get something quality, or you're likely to have headaches down the road.
A couple suggestions: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104954 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104934 Why not a single, large drive? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136003
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Power supply is a definate no-go. Get something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194003 Also get a 7900gt from EVGA. EDIT: Blue beat me to it. |
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Two suggestions. First, bump the hard drives up to 16MB caches for a bit of a boost. Second, your burners do not come with burning software. I'd switch to Lite-Ons, they come with Nero.
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Lite-Ons are also reliable, if you wanted to, you can get LightScribe too lol...
and if you went intel, go c2d, with corsair xms2 ram, almost always compatiable with asus boards. but since ur going amd, idk if you look a bit you can find a 4200 for like 10 dollars more. zipzoomfly.com is also a great place for deals.
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Ok ok you know best...anymore suggestions?
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ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard $75.99 eVGA 256-P2-N584-AR Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $275.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply $96.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor $225.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200KS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $89.99 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - Retail $35.25 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - OEM $30.99 $1,256.16 before rebates |
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Where?
If you look a bit you can find a 4200 for like 10 dollars more.
Is a 4200 better than a 4400? I was not able to find a 4200 where could I find one? |
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10-15-2006, 12:48 AM
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Nope - the 4400 is what you want - that's a Toledo core.
Did you ever look at the Acer monitors I suggested? |
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Monitors...
I took a look at the Acer monitors n I think the Rosewill monitor is where I am gonna stay. The Rosewill has a better warrenty, price after rebate, power consumption, and weight.
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Aha - you didn't say it had a rebate!
You will be fine, I believe Rosewill monitors are made by Acer or a subsidiary. |
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I'd go with the seagate 7200.10. It's about the same price ($94.99), a little faster, but most importantly has a full 5-year warranty. It's been suggested already.
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Had to build a Duo, which is better?
AMD build...
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard $75.99 eVGA 256-P2-N584-AR Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $275.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply $96.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor $225.00 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - Retail $35.25 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - OEM $30.99 $1,256.16 before rebates Core 2 Duo build... COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel $44.99 ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard $141.99 eVGA 256-P2-N584-AR Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $275.99 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply $96.99 Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 $180 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $114.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 Logitech Internet Pro Desktop 967457-0403 Black 103 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard Mouse Included $16.99 Rosewill R913E Black 19" 4ms DVI LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 $249.99 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - Retail $35.25 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner With LightScribe - OEM $30.99 $1,272.16 before rebates Should I go with the Duo or stick with the AMD? Is AMD going to follow Intel with its own version of a Core 2 Duo? |
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