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10-16-2006, 06:39 PM
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PC for parents
I would like to build a pc for my parents. There not big gamers or interneters. Just mostly e-mail, but will do some research on line. I would like it to be some what upgradeable but not needed to be. Here is my parts list. Trying to stay around $600 too. Don`t need a monitor or keyboard and mouse. There pc is an old gateway still runing Windows Millenium. Thanks for any suggestions or coments.
Motherboard-ASUS P5PE-VM Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 865G Micro ATX Intel- $54.99 or ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard-$77.99 Processor-Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 2.66GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core, EM64T Processor-$89.49 Memory-CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System-$113.99 or CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel-$131.00 Case-Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply-$99.99 Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack-$89.99 |
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10-16-2006, 06:48 PM
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Look in my sig for more info.
Asus P5L-MX Pentium D 805 Corsair Value Select DDR2667 Hard drive of your choice Antec Sonata II Very fast, cheap setup. Cost me $400 with no OS, etc.
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10-16-2006, 07:20 PM
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805s seem to like the old 865 chipsets better. Don't ask me why. I don't think any of the 865 boards come with PCIx16 which sucks. If your parents don't care about retina-burning graphix, the INTEL board should be fine.
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10-16-2006, 07:27 PM
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Thanks for the help.
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10-16-2006, 11:45 PM
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I suggest a Pentium D 805 for basic tasks and applications, and more multitasking. And also, you might want to take the DDR2 slots motherboard - the DDR1 are very hard to obtain nowadays, and the prices of these are getting higher.
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10-16-2006, 11:55 PM
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Have you considered a company-built system instead? At budget prices, their power of bulk purchases shines. While upgradability may be limited, it should, at least initially, give you more for your money. The Dell Dimension E520, specifically, should be a good fit if you decide to go that way.
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10-17-2006, 04:57 AM
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do you rele need XMS ram, if you are not bothering with overclocking, then get value select.
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10-17-2006, 12:14 PM
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If you go with the 805 on the P5L-MX, I recommend Corsair Value Select DDR2-667. That's reasonably priced and all you will need. I'd do that rather than the older board for future upgrading flexibility.
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10-17-2006, 02:44 PM
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That's the RAM I used no problems.
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10-17-2006, 07:47 PM
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Thanks all.
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10-17-2006, 08:45 PM
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Finalized list?
Motherboard-ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775)
Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard-$77.99 Processor-Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 2.66GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core, EM64T Processor-$89.49 Memory-CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)-$114.99 Case-Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply-$99.99 SONY Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s-$18.99 Hard Drive-Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200JB 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100-$90.99 Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack-$89.99 Total-$583 |
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10-17-2006, 08:51 PM
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GOOD BUT.....
Why Ultra ATA-100 hard drive. You definately want a faster, quieter SATA 3gbps drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148144 Other than that I build virtually the same PC and could not have been happier. The motherboard actually comes with software which enables you to monitor your CPU temps. Very convenient. |
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10-17-2006, 08:54 PM
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Thanks, I`ll be ordering tonight.
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10-17-2006, 10:07 PM
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Seagate 7200.10 SATA is the best way to go with a hard drive. Save $15 and get the 250gb one, and take that $15 and get a Lite-On DVD burner.
You can also knock off 50 bucks with a Foxconn TS1 case if you aren't going to be putting a video card in there. It's got a dual rail 300w Fortron PSU in it. It can handle a modest video card upgrade later if needed. |
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10-18-2006, 09:17 PM
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One thing I forgot to say, my parents can only get dial up. Will this still be o.k.? Thanks
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10-18-2006, 09:26 PM
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No. You will need to buy a PCI modem card. I really can't find them on Newegg, though.
EDIT: Here we go: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SubCategory=18 Last edited by newbuilder14; 10-18-2006 at 09:29 PM. |
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10-18-2006, 10:04 PM
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Thanks for the help.
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10-23-2006, 07:59 PM
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Hows this
I did according to the sticky-
1) Remove EVERYTHING from the case 2) Set the motherboard on a non conductive surface. The motherboard box is perfect for this. .DO NOT PLACE THE MOTHERBOARD ON THE STATIC BAG! It can acually conduct electricity! We are going to try and assemble a running system outside of the case. 3) Install the CPU and heat sink. 4) Install the RAM (only install 1 stick for SDRAM, 2 for RDRAM) 5) Install the video card 6) Connect the monitor to the video card. 7) Connect the power supply to the motherboard. 8) Connect power to the power supply 9) Do NOT connect ANYTHING else. Make sure you have the power connector on the CPU fan connected. 10) Use a small screwdriver to momentarily short the power switch connector on the motherboard. The CPU fan came on, the case fan came on and I got a display from the monitor that said self test G check your pc R and signal cable monitor is working B Is this right? Thanks |
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10-23-2006, 08:20 PM
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You should get a display on your monitor of your BIOS. Do you know for sure that it works?
Do you have both the video and power attached to the monitor? Do you get any beeps? |
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10-23-2006, 08:39 PM
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Yes, I am useing my old gateway that my grandaughter uses for her disney stuff. No sound.
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10-23-2006, 09:11 PM
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I used that same motherboard and never encountered any of that. Here's what you need to do. IMMEDIATELY after you see anything on the screen, hit the DELETE key to enter setup. Once you get here let us know.
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10-23-2006, 10:06 PM
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I will try it tomorrow, had to put it away for the night. Thanks
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10-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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Did you plug the small 2x2 power connector into the motherboard in addition to the main 24 pin?
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10-24-2006, 07:20 PM
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I did everything the sticky said and plugged in the 2x2 plug. Everything is the same except the monitor says
Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press any key. How's this now? Thanks |
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10-24-2006, 07:50 PM
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I redid it again with the key board and got a message. It says,
American Megatrends Ambios (C)2006 American Megatrends, Inc. Asus P5L-MX ACPI Bios Revision 0202 CPU : Intel (R) Pentium (R) D CPU 2.66Ghz Speed : 2.66GHz Press F8 for BBS POPUP PC2-4300 Single Channel Mode Checking NVRAM.. Initializing USB Controllers ..Done 504MB OK Auto-Detecting USB Mass Storage Devices .. 00 USB mass storage devices found and configured. CMOS Chechsum Bad Press F1 to Run Setup Press F@ to Load defaultvalues and continue |
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10-24-2006, 08:15 PM
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Connect only the bare essentials. What is the USB mass storage device? Anyway... Try pressing DEL, F1, or F(@?) at startup. Get to the bios setup and check:
-temps -drives -etc. |
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10-24-2006, 09:05 PM
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I`m at the BIOS setup utility.
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10-24-2006, 09:06 PM
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Okay, now go to Advanced and look for hardware monitoring. Check the temps - look for temps below 50C. Now search for where you can see your drives listed. Set your boot order (typically optical then hard drive)
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10-24-2006, 09:13 PM
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No hardware monitoring,
only jumper free config. usb config chipset onboard device config and pcipnp |
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10-24-2006, 09:19 PM
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The optical is the cd-rom right? That I set to 1st boot, then hard drive 2nd.
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