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10-20-2006, 04:44 PM
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First Build Help
Hey guys. For a few months I been looking at parts for a new computer. I am a noob so i dont really know what I am doing. I am trying to look for a overall computer for light gaming (maybe like 1 game) and watching movies(more like a lot of movies), doing work, and going on the interent. my budget is under $1000 but i would like to get it as low as possible. so far these are the parts i got:
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103747 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131068 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145153 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104123 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102688 HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140 Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811170022 DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136091 Heatsink/Fan for Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186129 I am going to be running Windows XP on it but I will be getting Windows Vista as soon as I can. My total came out to be $800 and I am pretty happy with that especially since I dont wanna spend a lot of money. Can you guys help me make my rig any better or make my cost become cheaper? Thanks a lot guys |
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10-20-2006, 05:21 PM
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a core2duo bulid is the best right now. mabye since u want vista so bad, just wait to build this computer when vista comes out i think its january but dont quote me.
you do not need a new heatsink/fan for you video card here is my revised build for you CPU: core2duo E6300 $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115005 MOBO: asus p5l-mx $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131041 Case: your case $58 PSU: ENERMAX Whisper II 460W $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103464 Ram: CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) $215 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098 Video card: the one you picked $120 the one you picked DVD drive: the drive u picked $30 Harddrive seagate's 7200.10 is really good maybe get a small drive to save money.the one you picked $95 TOTAL: $853 with out os |
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10-20-2006, 08:36 PM
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I'm not a gamer at all, but I do want to be able to use my PC for recording music and editing video and stuff. Plus, I'm starting to get into programming some, so when I've got Eclipse open, listening to music and watching too much youtube, my current computer starts to crap out. It's an old Asus P3V4X, a nice computer for its time, but its time is long past. I've already got an AudioPhile 2496 PCI card, so I won't need an audiocard. After spending all day reading this and other forums I think my set up might boil down to this:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003 MOBO: ASUS P5B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131030 MEM: CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098 HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148144 VIDEO: SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102688 PSU: ENERMAX Whisper II 460w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103464 CASE: LIAN LI PC-61 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112025 and a DVD burner (chump change, at this point). Getting a little pricey at bit over $1050, but it should last me awhile. Any suggestions? |
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10-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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for acemasta I would recommend almost the same build as dogdude16, with these exceptions:
I would change the Lite-ON DVD burner, more reliable in my opinion: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106013 I would also cut back on the harddrive about $20 to the 250gb here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148144 and put that money back into the CPU to upgrade to the E6400 here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115004 total w/out OS: $877 --- for nicnmike I would kinda recommend the opposite. good build for $1000, however I would back off the processor to the E6400 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115004) and put it back into the motherboard with the ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131071) with the Lite-ON DVD burner mentioned above total cost would still be $1050 |
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10-20-2006, 09:28 PM
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The Intel Core 2 Duo may be more powerful, but is it worth the money to pay $30 than AMD which can also give an Dual Core at 2.2 GHz for $185
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10-20-2006, 09:50 PM
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No it is not. That processor will be the underdog, regardless of the operating frequency.
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10-20-2006, 09:57 PM
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absolutely! the core2duo running at 2.13ghz will slaughter any amd x2 4200+ running at 2.2 or even higher speeds. there really is no comparison. just like the core2duo will slaughter a pentium D @ 2.2ghz. i really has little to do with clock speed (GHZ) these days, its about the internals, the architecture and how the processor is designed. just for comparison here are some links for you:
3dmark benchmarks http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=469&chart=174 tom's hardware article http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/...out_athlon_64/ ExtremeTech article Intel Core2Duo vs AMD AM2 X2 http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2014646,00.asp you would be much, much better off going with the c2d |
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10-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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hmm ok. sounds good. so would u buy a e6400 or a e6600 under a buget
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10-20-2006, 10:34 PM
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Depends on the budget... of course I'd always take the E6600, but from what I've seen there isn't much of a difference in everyday use.
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10-20-2006, 10:59 PM
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ok since there is a $95 difference between them, I am going to go with the e6400. now for the mobo. i got it down to these:
ASUS P5NSLI Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI Intel Edition ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131032 ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131041 ASUS P5B-VM Socket T (LGA 775) Intel G965 Express Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131043 ASUS P5B-E Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131070 I was leaning toward the first two but i would like to know your guys opinion on these mobos and which one that goes with e6400 |
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10-21-2006, 01:43 PM
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They are all compatible, but you do not want to use the SLI board. I would get a plain P5B. That's the most bang for the buck. The E6300 will be plenty sufficient.
nicnmike, please start your own thread instead of jumping into someone else's. Thank you. |
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10-21-2006, 02:22 PM
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ok that just leaves 4 mobos : the P5B-E, the P5B-VM, the P5B, and teh P5B Deluxe. I really dont like the price of the Deluxe, so i guess ill cross that out. ok so 3 left. ideas?
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10-21-2006, 02:54 PM
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Just the standard P5B is perfectly fine.
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10-21-2006, 05:58 PM
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ok here is what i got guys:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M sharing L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16819115004 Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128012 or ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131030 PSU: Athena Power AP-P4ATX50F12 ATX12V/ EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB & CE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104123 Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102688 Coolor for Video Card: ARCTIC COOLING AVC-AT5 Rev. 2 72mm Ceramic High Performance VGA Cooler for ATi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186129 DVD-RW: LG Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136091 CAse: KINGWIN SK-523SW Silver Aluminum front bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811170022 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148144 and Finally the RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145566 OR G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) System Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231085 I didnt decide on the RAM yet because I wasnt sure if G.Skill was a trusty name like Corsair. Can you guys give me your opinion on my rig? Thanks a lot for this. ;-) PS should i go with the e6300? I really choose the e6400 one because i thought that it would be good as a vista capable processor that can handle multi-tasking (which is a very big deal for me). and also i dont know how to overclock a cpu so i am going to be useless doing it... maybe when i understand it more .. Last edited by acemasta; 10-21-2006 at 09:21 PM. |
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10-22-2006, 06:03 AM
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guys? opinion on my rig??
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10-22-2006, 08:38 AM
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I'd get
e6400 P5B FSP 450w PSU Video card is fine but could be better Drop the VGA cooler Get a Liteon DVD Burner And finally, choose the Corsair RAM. |
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10-22-2006, 09:47 AM
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2. That vga card is a beast, but since your not a gamer, I would just get a video card with some newer features. Like the X1300/X1600 series from ati without hypermemory, Or a 7600GT. 3. Otherwise I agree with the changes said by newbuilder. And only get an aftermarket vga cooler if you are comfortable with voiding the warranty, or feel like stocker cooler is too loud.
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10-22-2006, 01:33 PM
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ill go with your ideas but just for my info can u tell me ur reasoning? please n thank u (alot) |
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10-22-2006, 01:39 PM
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10-22-2006, 01:47 PM
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Please do not put more then a dime on newegg reviews. Half of them are new to building themselves and havent much of a clue.
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The athena on the other hand is actually a topower, topower's can range from excellent to junker. The excellent ones are really expensive. It would be safe to say that the FSP will outdo it. Not to mention the fact that the athena has no pci-e cable. Last edited by Mr.Ferrari; 10-22-2006 at 01:54 PM. |
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10-22-2006, 03:14 PM
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what about the bit rates for the VGA? i mean is a 128-bit interface any good for a new computer? i hear ppl geting a 256-bit cards and they say that you need that much for a new vista capable computer thats any good and it will last a while
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10-22-2006, 03:40 PM
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The x800 and the x1600 video card are both listed as "Vista Ready" which means that they will work with Vista Basic and probably not Vista Premium.
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10-22-2006, 03:42 PM
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Im not an expert on vista..but for its dx10 capabilities, you will need a dx10 card, which wont come out until after some time.
I think it would be safe to say a decent 128bit card would be sufficient for vista. But dont quote me on that.. |
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10-22-2006, 04:15 PM
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10-22-2006, 04:40 PM
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i use the x1600 on a test pc in my office for testing new software, and releases on Vista. i am running vista ultimate rc2 and its fine. don't worry about your graphics card being capable of vista unless it is under 256mb of gddr3 acemasta.
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10-22-2006, 06:11 PM
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ok thanks a lot guys. a lot of info here. it helped out a lot. especially with all the info.
for the vga i think that i might go with the eVGA 256-P2-N612-TX GeForce 7600 GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130054 thanks ;-) |
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10-22-2006, 06:27 PM
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I'd just take the cheapest 7600gt you can fine.
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10-23-2006, 04:31 AM
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I'd go with an ATI, its 2D display is nicer than anything Nvidia makes. Nvidia for gamers, ATI for graphics and video people.
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