2nd Opinion Needed

[mbiggs]

Just want a compatibility check. All seems fine to me... just wanted a 2nd set of eyes...
I generally will run BF2142, FEAR, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, Rainbow Six: Lockdown, etc...

• SUNON KD1212PTB1-6A 120mm Case Fan - OEM
  
• Link Depot 24" ATA133 UV Cable 3-Connectors Model UV-ATA24-SL-3
  
• BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 550 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
  
• XFX PVT73GUGD3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
  
• DYNAPOWER USA EP-50X.C563-BX ATX12V 500W Power Supply
  
• AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2.4GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3800
  
• Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) System Memory X 2
  
• Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
  
• COOLMAX 12100 Aluminium RAM Heatsink, Black X 2
  
• Spire FlowCooler HD05010S1M4 Hard Drive Cooler
  
• Rosewill RFA80L-R 80mm Red Case Fan - Red X 2

Thanks!

[DarkPacMan77]

everything looks good from this point, but I want to know more about that motherboard.

could you please post a link to it, I am unfamiliar with it.

please also post a link to that power supply. You can go lower as well. that graphics card needs a minimum of 300W, so if you are planning only a single card configuration you could drop to a 400W and be perfectly safe

other than that, I like how everything is coming together.

[Mr.Ferrari]

1. That fan is LOUD. Prepare for ear plugs.

2. That board is poor quality. Get something from asus or abit. With atleast NF570. Asus M2N-E is a good choice.

3. I prefer evga or bfg, but xfx is OK.

4. Get some corsair memory. Preferably XMS or even Value select.

5. Go for a seagate 7200.10 in the GB flavor of your choice.

6. That powersupply is crap.

7. You dont need ram heatsinks.

8. What case are you using? If your using a decently designed case, you dont need any kinda additional cooling products. Especially not the low quality brands that you have selected.

[mbiggs]

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119075
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817255010

Plan on mounting 80MM fan to ventilation tunnel on side of PC cover.

Never had a problem with Kingston but may switch if I see something of the same price.

I don't feel like dumping >30 dollars on PSU. Low quality or do you mean low performance?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Low quality. Buying junk powersupplys might get you by for a while. But sooner or later that thing is gonna go out and take your parts with it. Is a few hundred dollars in computer parts worth an extra 30?
Not to mention providing dirty power to your components and drastically reducing their lifespan?

Getting that fan for the tunnel is fine. But get one of decent quality.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999070

[DarkPacMan77]

I was also going to suggest that you don't need that type of cooling for those types of parts.

I would suggest to use an eVGA 7600gt for the gpu, I wouldn't know about bfg. I have nothing bad to say for bfg and nothing positive as well; I just know that eVGA has great customer service, and on top of neweggs, you can't go wrong if a part is faulty.

other than that, the main things are the motherboard and power supply that I asked about earlier. There is a list of very reliable power supplies on this site. Only companies that I would NEVER consider would be Ultra and Roswill/ Rosewill. Even then... if you are getting a 600W power supply for $30... those types of things should send red flags up immediately. Antec and thermaltake as well as fortron group and sparkle (i believe it is) are great choices

you may want to use a power supply calculator to see how much you want.

I've been awake for many hours, so I am kinda losing it haha

[DarkPacMan77]

that power supply has good reviews, and may prove to be pretty reliable for a good deal of time... hell, it may just last until you want to get a new computer... but with cheap psu's you just never know.

I'd have to read up a LOT on that power supply before buying it personally. It doesn't seem NEARLY as bad as others that I have seen in that price range... I guess I can admit that. Dynapower is something I can deal without if it came down to a trust issue. It also only has 1 sata connector. So if you were planning on putting two hard drives in that system that were both on that SATA (Serial ATA) platform... think again, as this power supply will only support ONE.

I really like that case though. It seems more than good. However, it seems you kinda have your priorities mixed up on this build. I would cheap out on a CASE loooooong before I'd cheap out on a POWER SUPPLY, because like Mr. Ferrari stated (and Mr. Ferrari should be held very reliable), if you have a junk psu in your system and it fails, it can take out other parts with it... and that just isn't worth it AT ALL... not to mention there is an increased chance of a fire hazard

[Mr.Ferrari]

dark, newegg reviews should be taken with not more then a grain of salt.

If we went by that, we'll I could go pull up the latest raidmax/aspire review page and would go according to that.

[mbiggs]

its cool. so basically its my mobo and psu that im wanting to change. i found some ram.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098

changed vid card... to the evga version..

i like WD HD's =)

[Mr.Ferrari]

Good choice on memory.

i like WD HD's =)

Thats cool.
Just saying the 7200.10's are faster.

[mbiggs]

2nd comp build btw...

[mbiggs]

uve saved me 30 bucks by havin me change that stuff around... i can dish that out towards a better PSU :P

[mbiggs]

i looked at that asus board.. .not many are happy w/ it... whats wrong with the board i want... biostar is reputable

[DarkPacMan77]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ferrari dark, newegg reviews should be taken with not more then a piece of dog poop. If we went by that, we'll I could go pull up the latest raidmax/aspire review page and would go according to that.

in regards to newegg's review system... I agree that they aren't to be taken as PROOF that something is good or not. Some people are just clearly stupid. I am just saying, that when you see a product have an outstanding amount of reviews that are 5 eggs, it DOES mean something. You just have to read about their cons as well.

I would personally get a cheaper case as well that still fits your needs, and throw that money into a good power supply as well as the other money that you have saved

[DarkPacMan77]

for the power that you need, you should HIGHLY consider this psu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

I would get that in a heartbeat considering that the 7600gt is a low power card (not saying it isn't good, it is "top line" to me)

maybe even keep the current case... who knows, if you like something enough, then go for it

[DarkPacMan77]

this is a decent case... I mean, your system won't need that much cooling, but if you mod this case, with another fan, perhaps in the side, it is a great deal.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156053

I say great deal while thinking that you won't be moving it around a lot... it may ding up easily if hit or something

edit: about the case/ psu... you can always get an Antec Sonata II case that comes with a 450W truepower 2 series power supply... I mean, if you are ever worried about something breaking down, this is the surefire way to get good quality parts.

[moodyblues100]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ferrari 1. That fan is LOUD. Prepare for ear plugs. 2. That board is crap. Get something from asus or abit. With atleast NF570. Asus M2N-E is a good choice. 3. I prefer evga or bfg, but xfx is OK. 4. Get some corsair memory. Preferably XMS or even Value select. 5. Go for a seagate 7200.10 in the GB flavor of your choice. 6. That powersupply is crap. 7. You dont need ram heatsinks. 8. What case are you using? If your using a decently designed case, you dont need any kinda additional cooling products. Especially not the low quality brands that you have selected.

Don't hold back . . . Tell us how you really feel.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by mbiggs whats wrong with the board i want... biostar is reputable

BioStar motherboards are decent budget motherboards but they lack a lot of BIOS features that tweakers like to play with. It'll run your computer, just don't expect much more than that.

And you really don't need a hard drive cooler.

And please use the Edit button instead of making new posts every few minutes.

Cricket

[newbuilder14]

Get a Fortron Source or Xclio power supply if you're on a budget. The M2N-E is the best choice. Look at dual core processors - I personally find no sense in getting a single core now.

[Alaron]

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[mbiggs]

sounds good...

[mbiggs]

have they fixed all the bugs on that m2n-e board... heard a lot of quirks about it...

***sorry... meant to post this on message above***

[newbuilder14]

Take the reviews on Newegg as a grain of salt. They should have little to no impact on your buying decisions. How do you know how careful or knowledgeable that person was? If I were building an AM2 system that is the board I'd choose.

[mbiggs]

ok... well... i just look at reviews as personal experiences... true what you say. but do you have personal exp with it... whats so great from it as opposed to say a... EPoX EP-MF4ULTRA

[mbiggs]

will i need to have at least 21A on the 12 volt rail for my processor? the amd athlon 64 3800+ orleans?

[newbuilder14]

What were you told about double posting? Anyway, for the motherboard, Epox boards are low quality - this being your first build, choice something from a higher quality manufacturer such as Asus. However, don't let me stop you if you feel you really want that Epox board. 21A on the 12v rail? I highly doubt the CPU would require that much - the 7600gt only requires 18.

[mbiggs]

This is my 4th build. It's been a while tho... What's the vid card requirements got to do with CPU requirements.. BTW... I didnt think it was a double post. That post had nothing to do with the post that was before...

[newbuilder14]

All I'm saying is that this is the first time I've ever heard of a CPU having amperage requirements... I know of them requiring an ATX12v/EPS12v connector, though. Double posting is whenever you post twice in a row... I shouldn't be backseat moderating, though.

[mbiggs]

no problem... all is clarified man lovin this forum .. what should i look for with the amperages and rails. correspond to what. like video cards... ram.. etc... that psu would work with that cpu and that mobo?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Well, what final cpu and gpu choice have you settled upon?