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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Is it the card or the drivers?
I wrote the post a few days ago 'All was well now all is gone' about having problems with the computer rebooting itself, BSoD's, ect. I think I have it narrowed down but I need some help. I reinstalled Windows by itself, nothing else. I used the restart option from the desktop numerous times, no BSoD's, no rebooting by itself, even ran a few Windows games. All was fine. Tried to install the video drivers. Now I get the BSoD. It's an ATI Radeon x1900xtx with the newest Catalyst software (I got it directly from ATI). Could it be the card is bad itself or just the drivers? How can I check? I don't have another pc that has a pci-e slot so I am kind of limited.
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Member (7 bit)
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Atlanta
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I have had similar problems with older ATI cards, but haven't seen it lately. Is this a brand new build? or are you doing a serious upgrade overhaul? This happened to me when i tried to replace my old ATI card with a newer NVidia card. The ATI drivers were not happy that i put in an NVidia card (even after I removed the old device in Device Manager and uninstalled Catalyst) and the gave me a BSOD. To make a short story shorter, I went out and bought another ATI card and the computer booted up just fine.
What does the BSOD say? Any specific error messages beyond the "Your system is now a boat anchor and has had an error" junk? Usually it has a line of code that contains valuable information on what exactly is going on. |
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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It's a brand new build. The specs are:
Asus A8N premium AMD Athlon 64 4600+ Corsair Value Select 1024 PC3200 Ultra X-Finity 600w psu ATI x1900xtx 512 Maxtor 160g SATA NEC 16x DVD Burner The problem is is I get a different BSoD error each time, like Page Fault in Non Paged area, pfn_list corrupt, CID_HANDLE_DELETION and a few others. When I got it up and running the first time last Friday it was running fine and all day Saturday it was fine. When I turned it on Sunday it went nuts crashing everything and it hasn't been the same since, even with a full reinstall of Windows. I really need some help. |
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Wrench Bender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Plymouth,MN
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Some of those errors can be memory errors. Download Memtest to test your ram. Also, run Maxtor's hard drive test utility to double check the HD.
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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It won't run MaxBlast
. It comes up as "your RAM disk is c:. Thank you using MaxBlast". That's all I get.
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Wrench Bender
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Plymouth,MN
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Maxblast is the formating utility, need to use the Powermax utility.
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Well, I'm not gonna be using anything at the moment because now it won't even turn on. The light on the mobo is on but I hit the switch and nothing.
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Not so new
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Your power supply probably has problems - Ultras are kind of junk.
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Could that be the cause of all my other problems as well? I know for a big powerhouse system you need a good ps, so maybe I have been looking at the wrong things?
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Kickin' it
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It's not the quantity of wattage is the quality of the power. And Ultra units can be poor quality. If you have any other good power supplies, try swapping them.
Poor power can cause all kinds of instability.
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Oh gee thanks, now I have to go spend more money
. I'll tell hubby the great news when he comes home. I'll let you know how it goes when I put the new one in.
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Member (11 bit)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Owosso, MI, USA
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Yep, that Ultra isn't the best and the 1900 cards are power hungry. You want at LEAST 450 watts from a quality supplier such as FSP, Antec, OCZ, Sparkle etc. You also want it to have at least 30 amps on the 12 volt rail....if it has 2 12volt lines (as it should), you add them together to assure you have the 30 amps.
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Kickin' it
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Here is our list of brands to buy and avoid: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195
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Member (4 bit)
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Thanks for the link. Shopping day for me tomorrow
. And thanks for all the help...this is my first big build and I seems to not be doing so well lol.
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