revised new build parts list

[danmer]

I change the case to a cheaper mid tower and went with more ram let me know what you think

case :COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail


motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

graphics card: eVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

power supply: FSP Group (Fortron Source) FSP600-80GLC ATX12V/ EPS12V 600W Power Supply - OEM

cpu: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail

memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail

hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM


disk drives: LITE-ON 16X DVD±R DVD Burner W/ LightScribe and 5X DVD-RAM Write Black ATAPI/E-IDE Model SHM-165H6S - OEM
LITE-ON Combo Drive Black SATA Model SHC-52S7K-05 - OEM

thought about a upgrade to a e6600 and a second hard drive if i can stretch my budget.

What raid config should i put two hard drives in. Not sure which would be the best.

thanks for input.

[newbuilder14]

Great, but the video card is a no - get this one, faster clock speed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130017

Also, you really don't need a 600w power supply. I run a nearly similar setup on a FSP 450w.

[blue60007]

Don't bother with RAID; just get one larger drive if you want more space.

[clroberts]

If you are wanting data redundancy and are paranoid about losing data, you should go with a Raid 5 configuration. That requires 3 harddrives of the exact model minimal. If you have other means of backing up your system or don't really care about losing what you're putting on the system, then just get a single large harddrive. I myself would rather have more drives that are smaller than a single large drive.

[chuck4456]

Great hard drive. The majority of hard drive failures are due to inadequate virus protection. If you manage to fill that one up, just add another. That's a good price (at Newegg) on that 600w PSU. I think it's got FREE SHIPPING. Go ahead and get it. You might want to install a more demanding Video Card someday.

[clroberts]

Most of the time the reason people run out of space is because of poor housekeeping. I know someone at work that has about 1 TB of storage and he still runs out because he is constantly downloading stuff from the newsgroups and doesn't have time to burn them onto DVD's.

[danmer]

thanks guys.. I went with the big power supply because i do plan on upgrading to a diffrent graphics card down the road once more direct 10 cards come out and price comes down.

thanks for the tip on the other gpu card.

anybody know of a good migration program to transfer from old comp. to new one

[Mr.Ferrari]

Get the OCZ version. Better warranty and price. Same psu.

[danmer]

Thanks Mr F! More Money I Save The Better Chance Of Upgrading To A E6600....anybody On That Migrating Software?

[danmer]

here is my new list let me know what you think

case :COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

vidio card:SAPPHIRE 100189L Radeon X1900GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail

psu: SILVERSTONE SST-ST50EF ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: SST-ST50EF
Item #: N82E16817256001

cpu: Update Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6600
Item #: N82E16819115003
ram: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail

hard drive:Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

drive:LITE-ON 16X DVD±R DVD Burner W/LightScribe and 5X DVD-RAM Write Black ATAPI/E-IDE Model SHM-165H6S - Retail

Just a couple of questions. will the ati card work in the motherboard or do i need a diffrent one,went with ati for bang for the buck. Am i right?
Also will that power supply be big sufficent for a bigger dirct x10 card when the price comes down, also may overclock later on

want to order today please help with my choices

[glc]

Yes and yes.

[danmer]

cool going to order today unless anyone can see any problems with the parts i have choosen

[newbuilder14]

Nobody has recommended the X1950Pro? Everything looks great, good luck. Hopefully Newegg will get the parts to you before Christmas. http://promotions.newegg.com/shipping/dec06/index.html

[Mr.Ferrari]

On your question about DX10 cards. Maybe the next generation will be a little less power consuming. But if your thinking about something like 8800GTX then im really doubtfull that powersupply will not be enough. Not that its low on wattage, but the accessibility of power is not available on a dual rail psu such as that silverstone. Im seeing some GTX's consuming about ~17a directly. This is already a high number, but this cards DX10 capabilities have not yet even been touched.

Part of its core is not even being used at the moment. Once DX10 goes into full swing the power draw will increase. Exceeding the 18a limit on a single rail, on the silverstone.

My suggestion is either get a single rail psu, or get one with multiple rails. I.E more then two.

[danmer]

newbuilder, I looked into the x1950 pro but I did not want to spend the money on it right now I'll wait to see what the new cards have to offer when more dx10 cards come out..

So as far as the psu if i go with a big power hungy gpu i will have to up grade the psu?

[Mr.Ferrari]

Probably, if you plan on going with something like a 8800GTX, then yes.

Its to far away to tell, future, next generation, DX10 cards will probably start cutting down on the power consumption. 500W is enough power. But divided between two 12v rails, with 18a on each, then a GPU like a 8800GTX will start causing major trouble when DirectX10 games start coming into full swing.

And yeah, the X1900GT is more then enough power for now..

[danmer]

ok sounds good. If I have to have a dx10 cardin the future then I'll worrie about it then.. thank for all the help I am sure i'll be back soon..

[danmer]

Well i did it!! all my parts from newegg came in wensday & thursday..had to buy a cd rom localy new egg was out of stock. Put it together last night wow pretty simple if you read everything fist this is my first build and everything went smooth...also got a 22" chimei monitor from newegg for$299 pretty good for the price a little bleed at top ad bottom with black screen but cant see it any other time.. Just want to say thanks for the help on parts seletion probaly would have bought a dell or somthing if not for this web site...

[newbuilder14]

Congratulations on the successful completion of your first computer build.

[danmer]

thanks..

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by chuck4456 The majority of hard drive failures are due to inadequate virus protection.

Really? I didn't know that. The failures I've experienced were the IBM Deathstar fiasco, the Western Digital 80GB SE fiasco, bad sectors taking over the hard drive, head crashes, spindle motor bearing failures, actuator arm failures and just plain old age.

Cricket

[chuck4456]

That was in the days when there was still a lot of experimental technology. These are modern times. I've had to replace hard drives by all different manufacturers. No less than 50. The majority of the failures were related to the fact that there was poor or no virus protection and they crashed. Most PC owners overlook maintenance as a whole. Western Digitals are junk anyway. I wouldn't kick a bull in the *** for a truckload of 'em.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by chuck4456 That was in the days when there was still a lot of experimental technology.

Most of the failures I experienced were in the last 5 years. I didn't realize there was so much experimentation going on.

How does having poor or no virus protection kill the hard drives?

Cricket