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Old 12-07-2006, 10:58 PM   #1
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Help with 1st time build

Hello, I hope I am going about this right. This is going to be my first build and I would prefer to keep it under $1000 if I can and I think I am going to go the AMD route unless people think that a Pentium D is better. (I have a wish list right now that uses a E6300 but it is closer to $1300).
Here is what I want to get out of it:
-multi tasking (burning, downloading, surfing, editing home movies)
-watching movies but not in an HTPC setup
-massive amount of storage, I would like at least 4 x SATA
-longevity/expandable (my dell has lasted for 7 yrs w/ minimal upgrades in memory & HDD), would like to expand to at least 4G of RAM.

I will not be hard core gaming, but I game here and there, no OCing, and SLI is a plus but not required,

I just need the box, I have a 27" lcd monitor (Viewsonic N2750w) if that affects the video card and I am thinking about eventually uprading to a 42" or 50" tv/monitor.

anyways here are the parts I have decided on: Are they good and compatible?

Case: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811146025

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813127010

Video card: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130062

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817128002

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103747

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145590

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822144701

Optical: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827106019

and some arctic 5 paste. this will run me about $930 before taxes and before $75 in rebates


If anyone has ideas on a reasonably more expensive better way to go or a cheaper way I would appreciate it. I couldn't really decide on a Mobo I have always heard ASUS was good but people kept bashing them in the reviews.

Also if you think it would be worth it to wait and make some more money to afford it I have a build that uses all of the same parts except the CPU, Mobo, Video card and a better case that runs about $1300
the CPU is E6300, Mobo is http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813188009
and the video is 7900gs. If that sounds good or you know a way to make a great build with a E6300 let me know.

Thank you very much
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:01 AM   #2
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The Asus P5B and a Core 2 Duo is the best option for now. Movie editing I suppose, a 7600GT will be sufficient. A large SATA HDD is required, get at least a 100gigs one.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:10 PM   #3
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I would recommend going to the Seagate 7200.10 type drive, it would perform better than the WD. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140
Also, what about an OS?
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:22 PM   #4
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I plan on having at least a TB of HDD space. I haven't really had problems with either seagate or WD (seagate 320 internal, WD mybook essential 500 external) so I usually go for what ever is cheaper. Seeing as how I know a little about computers I am a Sucker who uses Windows XP.
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If you already have XP, if it came with the Dell, it can't be used on a new build. If you have a retail version, your set. If it is the upgrade version, will need an old CD of 95/98/ME to show that you have an old OS.
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Also if you think it would be worth it to wait and make some more money to afford it I have a build that uses all of the same parts except the CPU, Mobo, Video card and a better case that runs about $1300
From everything I have read you should definately go with the C2D if you can afford it. You dont need to spend an extra $300. It will only cost you an extra $67 to upgrade your MoBo to the P5B and your CPU to the E6300. A better case and video card might be nice but should be considered sepeartely since they would equally improve both builds.
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I have retail XP, no problems there.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:00 PM   #8
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Is the P5B a good board? It seems that no mobo is perfect but it appears that people are really hating on asus these days
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:02 PM   #9
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I am starting to think that I will build around a E6300 CPU and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a mobo. I would like the price to range around $100 even less would be better.
It needs to have at least 4 x SATA and expandable to 4G of Ram, SLI not required but a bonus. Oh and RAID options would be nice as noted above the P5B has been mentioned do people agree with that board?
Thank you for your time and help
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:19 PM   #10
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The Core 2 Duo CPUs are the most powerful CPUs available right now, so it makes the most sense to build around it. The Asus P5B is a very high quality board, and we recommend it for anyone with a C2D build right now. If it fits all of your needs, keep it on the list.

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Old 12-08-2006, 01:48 PM   #11
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So I am looking everywhere for the memory list for the P5B and I can't find one the only one I found is in the manual and it is outdated. Help?
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Corsair Value select DDR2 667 is the recommended starting ram. Get a dual channel kit w/1gig sticks for 2gigs.
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The P5B is a very fine board - don't listen to the Newegg reviews. I also agree with the recommended Corsair ValueSelect memory. All your other selections are fine, but have you looked at a retail Liteon DVD burner with software? Also, if they have the faster 7600gt KO in stock I'd pick that.
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The Asus P5B is a very high quality board, and we recommend it for anyone with a C2D build right now.
Yeah, you really can't go wrong with Asus. I built mine with it.

That EVGA mobo is way too expensive.
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Old 12-09-2006, 11:09 AM   #15
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Will the corsair value select 667 work better than say their xms2 800? I noticed that the 667 has a CAS latency of 4 vs. the 800's 5. Just wondering if I should get the 800 or the 667?

Also would the only reason to get the lite-on retail vs. oem for the nero and powerdvd? (I already have both)

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If your going with Core 2 Duo then either. It doesnt matter. If your overclocking for the 800 or something else. The 667 is fine if your just plan on running the system stock.

Either is compatible.
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:51 PM   #17
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If your Nero and PowerDVD came with a different drive, it may not work with a different drive. If they are retail, they will, but OEM usually won't.
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:27 PM   #18
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Thank you to all that have helped. I think I have finally decided on my build

Case: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811133132

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131030

Video card: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130017

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817128002

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115005

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145098

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148140

Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106019

I don't think there should be any problems as I have modified it off our discussions and the best part it it comes out to $1000 even (ok so plus 93 cent and shipping)

Thank you for your help and hopefully my first build goes smoothly

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Very smart selections. Get a retail optical drive, though, so you get software with it.
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So once again I would like to thank everyone on this thread for helping me, but now I have come across another question. Everyone has recommended the Asus P5B mobo and it looks great, but I am concerned about the RAID. This is totally my fault but I thought either 0/1 was the RAID that makes two drives appear to be one, but apparently that is JBOD correct?

Is there any way to get that type of performance out of the P5B. I would just rather have two 500/600GB harddrives than four 320GB for ease's sake.

If there is a good 500GB HDD I might consider that but they are kinda pricy and don't seem to have the best performance compared to smaller drives.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136032

Thanks again
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So once again I would like to thank everyone on this thread for helping me, but now I have come across another question. Everyone has recommended the Asus P5B mobo and it looks great, but I am concerned about the RAID. This is totally my fault but I thought either 0/1 was the RAID that makes two drives appear to be one, but apparently that is JBOD correct?

Is there any way to get that type of performance out of the P5B. I would just rather have two 500/600GB harddrives than four 320GB for ease's sake.

If there is a good 500GB HDD I might consider that but they are kinda pricy and don't seem to have the best performance compared to smaller drives.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136032

Thanks again
Well, to answer your first question here's a quote from a reviewer you linked to on the 500 Gig HDD:
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Fast and quiet! I have three of these in a RAID-5 array and I cannot hear them make a sound. In a Antec P180 case with a Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi MB.
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Don't bother with RAID. Keep it simple.

320gb drives are at the price sweet spot right now.
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