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12-21-2006, 05:18 PM
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Anyone got a sec?
i am completly new to all of this and have very little idea of what im doing. ive made a list of components i think i will need. can anyone suggest any improvements or anything im missing. it would be much appeciated.
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12-21-2006, 06:52 PM
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Welcome to PC Mech!
First of all, the power supply that comes in the case you chose isn't suitable for the build. Not only is it of low quality, it isn't ATX2 standard. The PSU is such a vital part of your system, so it's important not to skimp. The PSU selection at Ebuyer isn't great, so I'd head over to www.overclockers.co.uk for this... http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-005-CS Great unit, will power any single video card system. Second, I'd skip Ebuyer's own-brand 'value' RAM. Its quality is variable at best, and in my experience is usually poor. I'd go for Corsair VS DDR-667 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-097-CS (giving you links at Overclockers here, because their site is much nicer to navigate. If you can find the same product at Ebuyer then do some price comparisons) You might consider the 250GB flavour of that drive. It's in the 'sweet spot' in terms of price per gigabyte. When it comes to video card / processor / motherboard recommendations - it's all about what you want this system to do. You've gone for a top of the line processor and motherboard, but for a gaming system, the video card is a little 'underpowered' in comparison. Let us know what you want this computer to do, and we can advise you further. FK
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12-21-2006, 08:39 PM
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Aside from FK's suggestions which I agree with, I would skip that video card and go for an x19-- ATI series card, such as the x1950pro. Good luck.
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12-22-2006, 08:24 AM
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continuation
here are the revisions i have made as per your suggestions. what do you think. im not so sure bout the PSU thanks.
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12-22-2006, 08:46 AM
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Shiro Usagi
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Could you just copy and paste your lists into your posts instead of attaching them? Just makes it easier to see the parts you're thinking of. Thanks.
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12-22-2006, 08:59 AM
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Why did you choose the Akasa power supply over the Corsair I linked to? The corsair is only £4 more expensive, and I'd trust it to power virtually any system.
Still need to know what you want to use this computer for. FK |
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12-22-2006, 09:32 AM
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im planning to use the system for gaming as well as general work. word processing etc and im sorry FK thats a mistake on my part i am planning to use the PSU u suggested.
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12-22-2006, 09:44 AM
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If you're going to be gaming, get rid of the graphics card you have and go with the X1950Pro that Newbuilder mentioned. It's a MUCH better unit. Try this one for a few $$ more:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119203/rb/23931602347 Or this one, with 512Mb memory, for a few quid more: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119956/rb/23931602347 Either of those will whip the crap out of that X1800GTO. Why use a 6600 Core 2 and then cripple it with a marginal vid card? Personally, if you had the coin, with that system I would look at a x1950XT or 8800GTS. JMO.
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12-22-2006, 09:46 AM
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a friend suggested i use this one until DX10 is out as i will need to upgrade then anyway. is that rite?
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12-22-2006, 09:50 AM
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just for ease here is my list.
Processor + Mother board: Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4ghz - Skt775 Fsb1066 4mb Cache Boxed ASUS P5W DH Deluxe SKT 775 dual-core Core2Duo Conroe ready Crossfire 8channel audio ATX http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...code=BK9XQ7PT7 Graphics: Connect 3D X1800GTO 256mb GDDR3 DVI-I VIVO PCI-E http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/109760/rb/23871231849 RAM: Corsair 2GB DDR2 Value Select PC5300 Dual Channel Kit (2x1GB) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-097-CS Hard-drive: Western Digital WD1600JS Caviar SE 160GB 7200RPM SATA2/300 8MB Cache – OEM http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94406 Case: Asus TA-210 Series Midi Tower (Black) - No PSU http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-004-AS PSU: Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-005-CS |
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12-22-2006, 10:11 AM
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Change the hard drive to something more powerful with 16mb of cache.
Definitely change that video card to something that gives you decent value for the money, like the 7600gt or X1950Pro (my choice). |
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12-22-2006, 10:28 AM
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12-22-2006, 10:30 AM
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12-22-2006, 10:30 AM
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DX10 is only applicable if you plan on upgrading to Vista any time soon - and I certainly wouldn't recommend you do that until at least the first service pack - and I'd be surprised if we see that within a year.
That said, blowing mega bucks on a DX9 card isn't that sensible, either. My suggestion would be to get a good mid-range card now, such as the X1950Pro Newbuilder recommended. This one is great value: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-065-HT If you need to cut costs to achieve that, switch the Motherboard to the standard ASUS P5B. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-151-AS I know the motherboard and processor are in a 'bundle' at Ebuyer - but if you notice, that's saving you a grand total of £2.35! Here's the hard drive I'd recommend http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-046-WD Finally, I'd be tempted to make a decision on a retailer and get ALL your parts from there. It will save you paying for two lots of shipping. Overclockers would be my suggestion, but that's totally up to you. FK |
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12-22-2006, 10:33 AM
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i had been thinking about doing that. and im glad you noticed £2.35 saving it had been bugging me seems kinda pointless. i will switch to Overclockers.
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12-22-2006, 05:25 PM
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Processor:
Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 "LGA775 Allendale" 1.86GHz (1066FSB) – OEM http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-135-IN Motherboard: Abit AW9D-MAX Intel 975X (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-108-AB RAM: CellShock 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 PC2-8000C5 1000MHz Dual Channel Kit http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-002-CK Video Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon X1900 GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-124-SP Hard-drive: Western Digital Caviar RE 160GB 1600YS SATA-II 16MB Cache – OEM http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-111-WD Case: Asus TA-210 Series Midi Tower (Black) - No PSU http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-004-AS PSU: Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-005-CS Last edited by fferguson6; 12-22-2006 at 05:31 PM. |
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12-22-2006, 05:27 PM
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You seem to have posted the same list as before!!
You can use the 'edit' function on your previous post to replace it with the new list. FK |
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12-22-2006, 05:32 PM
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sorry bout that both me and my computer aint doing so good one of us messed up somewhere
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12-22-2006, 05:35 PM
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All you should change is the hard drive and video card, or many none at all as they are pretty decent. The Seagate 7200.10 or the Western Digital SE16 hard drive(s) would suit you better. The X1900GT is an awesome card but you'd get better value out of a X1950PRO.
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12-22-2006, 05:39 PM
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In my opinion, that Motherboard is overkill - it's a top-end board with Crossfire support that's really only necessary for someone with a VERY large budget who wants the absolute best.
I maintain my suggestion to get the cheaper ASUS P5B, with the Corsair VS DDR2-667, and the X1950pro (links already provided). With the money saved, you may be able to get that E6600 processor back into the budget. The video card I suggested is newer than the one you picked out, and virtually the same price. FK |
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12-22-2006, 05:45 PM
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can someone please explain this whole IDE and SATA thing to me?
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12-22-2006, 05:53 PM
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Two different interface (data transfer) technologies for Hard and Optical drives. SATA is the replacement for 'IDE' (correctly known as PATA).
There's no reason to buy anything other than a SATA hard drive at the moment (and you should be looking at a 'SATA II' drive with 16MB of cache for optimum performance) - they are readily available. Indeed, most newer motherboards only come with one IDE connector as opposed to two that was previously the 'norm'. Optical drives, in contrast, remain mostly IDE - though this is set to change as time progresses! FK |
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12-22-2006, 05:54 PM
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12-22-2006, 06:02 PM
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No, the standard P5B. I linked to it in post #14.
You linked to the P5B Deluxe. It's more expensive as it has 2 PCI-E x16 slots for two ATI video cards running together in Crossfire. FK |
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12-22-2006, 06:08 PM
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The X1950Pro that both Newbuilder and I have mentioned is not only better than the X1900GT you listed (not a bad card....but), it's cheaper. Look at my earlier link.
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