new build

[CiFA0000]

chasis: Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133021

i did some research and found out the motherboard is compatible with this case, but the problem is i need to know if the rear i/o panel can be removed and replaced with the one that comes with the motherboard? it should, but i just want to know is it a hack job or does it come off easily?

proccessor: AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Windsor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16819103861

mobo: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16813131013

im not planing to get a video card now, i have two questions. might be stupid to ask but does this mobo have onboard graphics? is it gddr3 compatible, or does it really matter, in the future im looking to put 2x video cards for sli on x16.


ram: CORSAIR XMS2 DOMINATOR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

this should be compatible because it's ddr2 800 and it's 240 pin

hd: Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136033

i know this is compatible because its sata 1.50 gb/s and i only need one hd

power supply: this is a problem, because right now i want to build these parts as is, but like i said in the future im looking to get two 256mb graphic cards with sli enabled. how many watts do i need? what if it has more watts than i need, is it just a loss of energy or will it damage the parts? i was thinking to get something minimum like 600 watts. also will it fit the chasis.

[chuck4456]

That's a huge case. You could just about stick a small 4 cylinder engine in there. Unless you are dead bent on AMD, you can put together a much better and more up to date system with an INTEL C2D E6600. Tell us your budget and let us assist you.

[glc]

1. No onboard video on that motherboard.
2. You need a SLI-certified power supply. The list is at slizone.com.

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by chuck4456 That's a huge case. You could just about stick a small 4 cylinder engine in there. Unless you are dead bent on AMD, you can put together a much better and more up to date system with an INTEL C2D E6600. Tell us your budget and let us assist you.

l0l i know i seen a similar one before, i hope the wires extend.

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by glc 1. No onboard video on that motherboard. 2. You need a SLI-certified power supply. The list is at slizone.com.

i knew it had to be sli certified, nice web site if found it. it should be %100 accurate.

[CiFA0000]

i picked this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153039 Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply 100 - 240 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by chuck4456 That's a huge case. You could just about stick a small 4 cylinder engine in there. Unless you are dead bent on AMD, you can put together a much better and more up to date system with an INTEL C2D E6600. Tell us your budget and let us assist you.

i was thinking under 1,500 but these specs came out $1,769.95 and with warrenty $179.95 total $1,949.90 -$105.00 mail in rebate after mail in rebate total 184.49 w/o tax included. i would like to buy the products w/o warrenty but if something happens its going to be a loss, $1590 plus shipping which is about $200 more than i wanted to spend. is anybody a long term customer of newegg, if a product becomes defected when building, does new egg replace that item, i doubt it right without the replacement plan.

[CiFA0000]

i researched as much as i can about these specs but still the power supply scares me the most because that can damage the parts. can someone tell me something about these specs, i picked the ones i like, what can cause the parts to be damaged (my main concert is the power supply i doubt the other parts come defected, if so that would not be a problem)?

[Mr.Ferrari]

What cards exactly do you plan to use with sli? If its anything but DX10 based ones, you should be good.

I would however swap that out for this one: Xclio 700w
Its the same unit, but Thermaltake has a bad reputation for customer service.

And please use the edit button.

[clroberts]

Here's a few power supplies for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104023
or this beefier one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104026

[Alaron]

You can't really damage your computer with a power supply. If it dies, which is very rare, and takes components out with it, you have warranties. Other then a power surge from the wall socket, your components cannot spontaneously fry. Just keep yourself grounded as you build and it will be fine.

That said, I would do some research on a Core 2 Duo based system. They outperform AMD chips right now, so it is a better investment. Look at the Asus P5B motherboard, the E6300 or E6600 CPU and a gig or two of Corsair DDR2-667.

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ferrari What cards exactly do you plan to use with sli? If its anything but DX10 based ones, you should be good. I would however swap that out for this one: Xclio 700w Its the same unit, but Thermaltake has a bad reputation for customer service. And please use the edit button.

2x XFX PVT71GUDE3 GeForce 7900GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150218

[Mr.Ferrari]

That Xclio 700w will be MORE then enough. Heck you could easily get away with a decent ~500w. On that area I think your set.

Just one thing, I would see if you can get eVga versions of the cards, they are more consistent with quality.

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by Alaron You can't really damage your computer with a power supply. If it dies, which is very rare, and takes components out with it, you have warranties. Other then a power surge from the wall socket, your components cannot spontaneously fry. Just keep yourself grounded as you build and it will be fine. That said, I would do some research on a Core 2 Duo based system. They outperform AMD chips right now, so it is a better investment. Look at the Asus P5B motherboard, the E6300 or E6600 CPU and a gig or two of Corsair DDR2-667.

i don't like intel anymore i don't know why but i rather get a amd. there isn't much to know about the other parts, i'm thinking that it has to be exact watts that the parts connected need. i thought if its more it might damage it or the system would be unstable, but hopefully i think this one i automatic, giving enough power to the parts and no more than that, thanks for the advice.

[CiFA0000]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ferrari That Xclio 700w will be MORE then enough. Heck you could easily get away with a decent ~500w. On that area I think your set. Just one thing, I would see if you can get eVga versions of the cards, they are more consistent with quality.

i would besides them being pricey, but im not going to use it. the two cards put togheter 512mb and 64 pixel pipelines is more than enough for me.

[glc]

Suit yourself, but a $300 E6600 pulls the same benchmarks as that FX-62. Your choice.

[Alaron]

Power supplies pull enough power to run the system. The wattage rating you see is a theoretical maximum. You can put a 700w PSU in a system that only needs 300w and the PSU will pull the 300w. It won't try to push extra watts into the system and blow it up. No worries.