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05-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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New PC Build/Upgrade
Hey everyone,
im planning on building a new PC using some of my current PC parts with new ones (theres logic to that, dont worry  )Okay, so, heres what im taking from my current PC: Current PC: Club 3D Radeon x1650 PRO (Overclocked by club 3D) 2x 250 GB SATA HDD's in RAID 0 New Parts: Aspire Xplorer Black/Silver ATX http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...45FT&InMerch=1 Crucial 2x512MB 240Pin DIMM PC2-5300 NonECC Unbuffered CL5 http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...3R58&InMerch=1 Asustek AM2 nForce 570 SLI ATX Audio Dual Lan DDR11 http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...4384&InMerch=1 AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200 AM2 http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...4BD1&InMerch=1 Aspire 550W Chameleon Aluminium Silent PSU 12cm Fan (maybe can i get away with 450W?) http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...48B7&InMerch=1 Does this sound like the perferct gaming PC? or another idea i should scrap? Thanks in advanced. oh and is there anywhere i can save money? |
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05-05-2007, 05:32 PM
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i take it you live in the UK. Newegg is the best when it comes to the states so i dont know any better retailer than who you have right now. all i can say as far as a gaming pc goes is that the ram you have will be ok at stock speeds but if you want to overclock as some gamers like to then something a little more pricey might do better. i suggest corsair or crucial.
P.S. i also did a build with some of the parts from a previous pc, my reason was a lack of funds, if thats yours too then stick with what you have. |
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05-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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well, you see the current parts of my current PC are fairly new (few months old) so i dont see much point in throwing them away because they are decent.
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05-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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also if you are into saving power and the environment check out www.80plus.org, click on suppliers to the left, these power supplies have 80 percent efficiency.
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05-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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oh ya i agree dont chuck them
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05-05-2007, 05:55 PM
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AM2 boards are very pickly about the memory it takes. Go with the DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2 modules.
You will also need to replace the Aspire PSU... they are not to be trusted. Go with a reliable brand such as Antec, Corsair, Enermax, Seasonic or Sparkle. I would also suggest a unit that is 500 watts or above. Raid 0 is also a waste in my opinion. The performance boost you are supposed to get from the Raid 0 setup is not even noticable in real life and if one HDD dies you lose everything. Last edited by minsonngo; 05-05-2007 at 05:58 PM. |
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05-05-2007, 06:16 PM
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I've had RAID 0 for a while now and i noticed quite a big peformance boost in applications unfortunatly nVidia are rubbish when it comes to drivers of SATA RAID, okay
i updated my PSU to: Antec Neo HE ATX 500W PSU http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx...0882&InMerch=1 and RAM to: Corsair Memory TWIN2X1024A-6400 2x512MB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...SearchMode=All any suggestions now? |
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05-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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If you're wanting a strong gaming computer, then you could be going about this the wrong way. The video card is by far the most 'influential' component in a gaming computer, and by not upgrading it in this new system, the improvement in performance might not be as much as you were expecting.
What are the parts in your current computer? Is that video card PCI-Express?
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05-05-2007, 06:39 PM
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yeh it is, its a pretty amazing one too
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05-05-2007, 06:48 PM
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I'm still curious as to the rest of your current components. If that card is PCI-E, then your current system must be relatively new. What I'm getting at is, if you're looking for purely an increase in gaming performance, your money might be better spent in maxing out your RAM, and replacing that video card with a stronger one. These two components have a bigger impact on gaming performance than anything else. I wouldn't call an X1650 Pro anything more than a 'mid-range' gaming card - I have an x1950Pro, and even this won't play every game with top graphical settings.
If you do want to follow up on your original idea, though, then I'd suggest you get 2GB of RAM for a gaming system - 1GB is becoming the standard for mid-range systems now. |
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05-05-2007, 07:02 PM
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my pc is 1 year and 6 months old, and its the CPU that shoots to 100% when playing even San Andreas, or any game.
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05-05-2007, 07:16 PM
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Right, that's because the CPU is having to pick up the slack that the video card can't handle.....
What frame rates and what sort of settings are you running?
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05-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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on Counter Strike source i get 76.4 FPS as the average
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05-06-2007, 10:13 AM
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okay, so, i updated my list:
Aspire Xplorere Black/Silver ATX http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=45FT Crucial 512 MB 240Pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-4200 Non-ECC x4 http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=36TC Asustek AM2 nForce 570 SLI ATX Audeio Dual Lan DDR11 http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4384 AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ AM2 3.0 GHZ http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4DHT Antec Neo HE ATX 500W PSU http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=3XF5 is that better? thats the max budget i can take |
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05-06-2007, 10:32 AM
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You need to use DDR2-800 memory. Go with the Corsair in Post 7.
The rest looks fine.
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05-06-2007, 11:55 AM
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i do? but in the comments of the motherboard it said the crucial works fine?
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05-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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The memory standard for that board is DDR2-800 which is DDR2 PC2-6400. The one you picked out is only PC2-4200.
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05-06-2007, 02:50 PM
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is it just me or are there no IDE connections on the motherboard?
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05-06-2007, 02:59 PM
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There is only one which means it will support up to two IDE drives.
Here is more information on the motherboard in case you want to look at it: http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...&l2=101&l3=301 |
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05-06-2007, 03:15 PM
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so how does that work exactly? as in two IDE drives as in a dvd recorder and floppy disk drive?
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05-06-2007, 03:29 PM
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The single ATA controller on the motherboard has support for two IDE optical drives such as the dvd recorder you mentioned. The motherboard also has a seperate floppy drive controller for a floppy drive if you need it.
But I would highly recommend you go with the newer SATA optical drives out there instead of the older ATA or IDE ones. |
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05-06-2007, 03:35 PM
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okay, thanks for all your help
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05-06-2007, 03:37 PM
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9mm wins.
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No problem. Happy to help.
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