Trying to build a computer for gameing please help

[arn]

Hello, i am trying to build myself a new gaming computer. My budget is $1000-$1600(tax and shipping included). All i need is the computer no extras(except a good headset) like monoter keyboards mice etc.
I would also like to order all of the parts form New Egg becuase i know it is a reliable and cheap source. Please help me, I want a gaming computer in the budget range of $1000-$1600(tax and shipping included).

[Cricket]

AMD or INTEL?

And please don't use colored, bold or larger type...it's really hard to read. Thanks.

Cricket

[arn]

i would like to build an AMD computer.

[Alaron]

I'd recommend looking at an Intel based system. The Core 2 Duo's outperform anything from AMD right now, and AMD is transitioning to a new socket not too long from now. That being said, here is a list to get you started.

Asus M2N-E motherboard
Athlon X2 6000+
2GB DDR2-800 Corsair XMS RAM
eVGA 8800GTS 320MB Video Card
Seagate 320GB 7200.10 SATA Hard drive.
LiteOn SATA DVD Burner - Retail
Any case you like
Corsair 520HX Power supply.

That comes out to around $1200.

[arn]

thank you very much i would like to veiw a few more packages tat anyone could hlep me with just to keep all my options open. Also saying i did wanta monoter (becaseu your package came lower then i expected) i have bad eyes and need a pretty good size and good quality. any sugestions?

[Alaron]

The best bang for the buck in monitors are 22" LCDs that are under $300 right now. Samsung is a great choice. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001083

If you are interested in Intel, keep my above list and swap the CPU/Motherboard/RAM with:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Asus P5B Motherboard
2GB Corsair DDR2-667

Will be right about the same price.

[arn]

ok ill keep that list and thanks for the monoter selection. Also what is the best version of vista for just gaming and mabey microsoft officer?

[Cricket]

Alaron has given you good ideas for your parts selection. Either system would build into a really nice gaming rig.

Personally I would use WinXP for now and then upgrade to Vista after the first or second Service Pack is released. WinXP is a proven OS and has had time to mature into a very solid platform. Vista is brand new and there are still a lot of bugs and driver issues to work out.

Cricket

[arn]

ok alaron i jus built the computer u sujested on new egg and it came out to be about $1900(with tax, shipping, monoter,and headset included) dose that sound about right?

[Alaron]

My list plus a monitor, comes out to $1500 shipped. Can you post links to everything you chose so we can do a final check?

[arn]

sure actully i can email u the shopping cart if that would be easier and u could send me ur e-mail

[Alaron]

Post them here so that everyone can have input.

[arn]

GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

LITE-ON Combo Drive Black SATA
(all of this came out to be aroun $1500)
My freind told me to just build and AMD computer so heres the package me and him came up with
(this is all off new egg and can be found at new egg)

[Cricket]

The parts list that Alaron gave you in post #6 is better.

I don't see a power supply in your list. Which one were you going to get?

Cricket

[arn]

No power supply needed the case im getting comes with a 500w power supply

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply

[Alaron]

RaidMax PSUs are junk, don't use them. Keep the case if you want, but please replace the PSU. The Corsair I suggested is particularly good quality and a great match for the 8800 video cards. If you need to trim the budget, the PSU is never the place to do it.

[doubledragon5]

Alaron PSU choice is top notch.. Buying a low quality PSU can damage your whole system and cost you $$$$. Here is a guide of good and bad psu.. The bold ones listed in good are for high performance PC, such as the one your planning on building..

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195

[arn]

i really think i can just find a good case with a nice power supply and heres a few i found


APEVIA X-Pider ATXA2XP-AL/500 Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply

APEVIA X-Navigator ATXA9NW-BK/500 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply

APEVIA X-Navigator ATXA9NW-BL/500 Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 500W daul 12V (Ver. 2.03) Power Supply

these are the top 3 i found and fter this if these are all as bad as the last one, tell me and i will get a case and power supply seperate

[minsonngo]

The Apevia cases use Turbolink PSUs... those are bad brand PSUs also.


Antec is pretty much the only company that provides good PSUs with their cases.


It would be better if you get a case and PSU seperately.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by arn i really think i can just find a good case with a nice power supply and heres a few i found APEVIA X-Pider ATXA2XP-AL/500 Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply APEVIA X-Navigator ATXA9NW-BK/500 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply APEVIA X-Navigator ATXA9NW-BL/500 Black/Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX 500W daul 12V (Ver. 2.03) Power Supply these are the top 3 i found and fter this if these are all as bad as the last one, tell me and i will get a case and power supply seperate

Apevia power supplies are rubbish. Get the case and power supply separately. Power supply information can be found here.

Cricket

[arn]

thios is the case and PSU combo i chose please giv me a thumbs up on this


APEVIA X-DISCOVERY-BL Blue Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case or NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

OCZ EvoStream OCZ720EVOSLI ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 720W Power Supply

[minsonngo]

Not bad. Although you probably dont need that much power and the PSU is quite pricey.

Here is what I would suggest: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001

[arn]

That PSU only has 520w for $125

the PSU i had was 720w for $179
for 200 extra wats dont u think thats a good price only a 40 doller bump

Also my price range as i said was 1000-1500 and the build ATM is only 1000 so i thinhk i can deal with the 40 extra bucks

isent the OZC better deal and a better product?

[minsonngo]

Both are reputable brands with proven reliability.

I guess in the end... it is your choice. You can't go wrong with either one.

[Duffasaurus]

I beg to differ with the opinion that included psu's are crap. I bought an Antec Fusion Media Center case with an included 430 watt psu. Works like a charm. Has pci express cable, 2 sata, and molex connectors out the wazoo...

[minsonngo]

Originally Posted by Duffasaurus I beg to differ with the opinion that included psu's are crap. I bought an Antec Fusion Media Center case with an included 430 watt psu. Works like a charm. Has pci express cable, 2 sata, and molex connectors out the wazoo...

We never said that ALL PSUs included with cases are bad. See my previous post:

Originally Posted by minsonngo Antec is pretty much the only company that provides good PSUs with their cases.

[arn]

Ok now that i have two conflicting sides whats the better buy a psu and case seprate or a case that comes with psu?

[SpydaMan]

Originally Posted by arn Ok now that i have two conflicting sides whats the better buy a psu and case seprate or a case that comes with psu?

I think it all depends on what you find on the market. I bought a case with PSU, but have since found out the PSU is junk. I now have another PSU I will be buying for my build. The price was right for the case I bought, so I am not concerned if I need to buy another PSU for it.

[Mr.Ferrari]

Psu and case separate would best suit your needs. FYI the Corsair is much cheaper at www.zipzoomfly.com and has free shipping.

The Evostream series are a notch above OCZ/FSP's usual offerings. Either one is a good chioce.

[Windu]

the 5600+ would save you a few $$ if you wanted.