starting fresh with first build

[whitedragon]

hi all i am starting fresh with this and i am going AMD now i do have a reason for this. Now here is my case
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my the mobo is GIGABYTE S SERIES AM2 GA-M57 SLI-S4
this is the tft 20 inch
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now wye AMD you ask well the local shop i use is haven a deal coming next week so i can save a bit of cash .So i need a graphics card ram and psu but i dont know what power psu i will need and i dont want to spend to much on graph cards as i want to get an 8800 by xmas so sorry to bug you all again for some advice thanks

[noneoftheabove]

good ram would be corsair dominators, or crucail ballistix if you are looking for some excellent memory. But if you are looking to conserve money then look for those brands other models or patriot memory. Get at least a 500 watt psu for that 8800gts and an ati x1300 or x1600 to hold you off before xmas.

[whubbard]

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098 ($68)
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139002 ($149)
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102681 ($126)

Total: $343

When you get the 8800 all you will need to do is swap the GPU...no other upgrades needed.


by the way, you would be surprised how cheap the C2D is on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115015 ($165)...very much worth it
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115013 ($117)

If you do decide on intel, here is a great board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131030 ($116)

Also if you need an optical drive, here is a nice one: (lightscribe, re-writable DVD and CD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106057 ($37)

Should you go intel, and get that optical you total would be: $661, which isn't all too bad, as this system will be very nice.
or if you get the cheaper CPU it would only be $613.

EDIT:
by the way...what exactly is the 'Deal' you being offered at the store?

[whitedragon]

hi should have said before i cant use newegg as i am in the uk but thank you for looking

[whubbard]

Oh, Ouch

Well atleast you know what RAM, PSU, and GPU to get.

[whitedragon]

yeah i was looking at Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-5400C4 TwinX (2x1GB)£58.74 as for the gpu they dont have that one on the site i use so i looked at this
Asus ATI Radeon X1650 Silent 512MB DDR2 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail £64.61

[whubbard]

yes, that RAM, and GPU are fine.

Did they have the corsair PSU?

[whitedragon]

yeah this one looks nice Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2

[whubbard]

yes, that is basically the same PSU with lower watts

however it should work just fine with your build. the 620 just adds a bit more headroom.
here is the link to the other one in case you didn't see it: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...123&subcat=823

Basically the 620 allows for the option of SLI...even though i don't really think its worth it, people do it anyways

the 520...doesn't

[whitedragon]

yeah i see the 620 but the the 520 says its
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)

[Alaron]

whitedragon, did you decide on a switch to Intel or stay with AMD because of your motherboard?

If you are staying with AMD, you'll need DDR2-800 RAM.

[whitedragon]

yeah for this build it will be AMD DDR2-800RAM you say ok thanks ill take a look

[whitedragon]

yep they have them £91.64
ram

[whubbard]

that ram will be perfect.

sorry i forgot about the whole AMD 800RAM thing...

[Mr.Ferrari]

Stick to these, Corsair 5-5-5, same chips as the cas4 kit and higher chance of compatibility.

Be sure to post a final list of your component choices.

[whitedragon]

yeah i will do im getting the mobo monday

[whitedragon]

mobo specs

Model: GA-M55S-S3 Processor Support: Socket AM2 for AMD Athlon™ 64 FX / Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon™ 64 / Sempron™ processor Chipset: Northbridge: nVIDIA® nForce 570-SLI Super I/O: ITE IT8716 chip. Integrated Peripherals: * T.I. IEEE1394 controller. * Marvell 88E1116 Gigabit Ethernet controller. * Realtek ALC883 Audio Codec. Memory: 4 DDR2 DIMM memory slots (supports up to 16GB memory). Supports dual channel DDR2 800/667/533/400 DIMMs. Supports 1.8V DDR2 DIMMs. Internal I/O Connectors: 1 x 24-pin ATX power connector 1 x 4-pin ATX 12V power connector 1 x floppy connector 1 x IDE connectors 6 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors 1 x CPU fan connector 1 x system fan connector 1 x power fan connector 1 x front panel connector 1 x front audio connector 1 x CD In connector 3 x USB 2.0/1.1 connectors for additional 4 USB 2.0/1.1 ports by cables 2 x IEEE1394a connectors for additional 2 port by cable 1 x SPDIF In/Out connector 1 x Power LED connector Expansion Slots: 2 x PCI Express x 16 slot 3 x PCI Express x 1 slot 2 x PCI slots Rear Panel I/O: 1 x PS/2 keyboard port 1 x PS/2 mouse port 1 x parallel port 1 x SPDIF out port (coaxial) 1 x SPDIF out port (optical) 1 x serial port (COMA) 4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports 1 x IEEE1394a port 1 x RJ-45 port 6 x audio jacks (Line In / Line Out / MIC In/Surround Speaker Out) Power: ATX power connector and ATX 12V connector Form Factor: ATX form factor; 30.5cm x 23.4cm Hardware Monitoing: System voltage detection. CPU / System temperature detection. CPU / System fan speed detection. CPU warning temperature. CPU / System fan failure warning. Supports CPU / System Smart Fan function. BIOS: 4Mbit flash ROM Use of licensed AWARD BIOS Other Features: Supports @BIOS Supports Download Center Supports Q-Flash Supports EasyTune (only supports Hardware Monitor function) Supports Xpress Install Supports Xpress Recovery2 Supports Xpress BIOS Rescue

* Drivers & Utilities CD * Installation Guide * User's Manual * IDE133 Cable * Floppy Cable * 4 x SATA Cables * Motherboard Backplate

GIGABYTE Technology latest S-series motherboards for AMD socket AM2 platform, featuring with four innovative features- Safe, Smart, Speed, and SLI Technologies. The new S-series motherboards GA-M57SLI-S4 (Rev 1.0); supporting AMD new generation AM2 processor with dual channel DDR2 800MHz high frequency memories, providing reliable and user friendly computing and reaching the maximum system performance easily via personalized software settings. In addition, the outstanding graphics performance through NVidia SLI™ multi-GPU function provides the S-series motherboards excellent scalability for extreme gaming and 3D graphics. GIGABYTE S-series motherboards, the champion's choice for AMD Socket AM2 platform! * AMD Athlon™64 X2/ Athlon™64 socket AM2 platform * Supports Dual Channel DDR2 800 memory architecture * NVIDIA SLI Multi-GPU function for extreme graphics performance * Supports NVIDIA SATA 3Gb/s and RAID 0,1,0+1,5 function * Integrated Gigabit Ethernet solution with NVIDIA TCP/IP Acceleration technology * Integrated IEEE1394 FireWire interface * Features 8 channel High Definition Audio * RoHS compliant motherboard for green computing

[Mr.Ferrari]

The motherboard looks fine..good chipset.

[whitedragon]

good i am glad its ok looks a nice board i whent and had a look at one in my local shop

[whitedragon]

how dose this psu look its goto work with my mobo
Aspire 550W Chameleon Aluminium Silent PSU 12cm Fan

Description Aspire\\\'s Chameleon power supplies features 550W of power housed in 2.0mm of lightweight aluminum chassis, combining best cooling material, super quiet and outstanding performance in a stylish design. Supports Pentium 4 and AMD CPUs. This power supply has a built-in 120mm LED double ball-bearing fan for best cooling and a fan speed adjustor to control the fan speed and reduce the noise level while maximizing your cooling capacity. Just like chameleon, it changes colors. The 120mm fan has a switch to select different LED colors to be blue, green or red. You can set to any color light you want at any time to match your case color theme or your mood. Advanced wire management enhances better airflow and neatness. For those who own a case with side window, the green UV reactive wire sleeves, connectors and on/off switch give a significant effect under UV lights. Punched out side panels allow air to freely flow throughout the power supply. The Chameleon power supply comes with a free bonus \\\"Silent Combo Kit\\\" in retail package. You get an extra PCI fan speed controller (controls up to 5 case fans) and a 120mm UV blue LED fan for your system cooling. Two SATA connectors connect your system to the faster SATA interface for better performance. Short Circuit/ Under Voltage/ Over Voltage/ Over Current/ Over Power/ Electric-Shock Free Protection functions ensure and stabilize your system. Made of the highest quality components and materials, Aspire Chameleon has undergone the most rigorous testing in the industry to offer the best cooling, stability, reliability and durability. Key Features Aluminum casting for best cooling LED color switch changes the fan colors High quality colorful components and materials ensure superior performance and appearance Excellent ventilation:1 x 120mm uv blue LED fan and punched out side panels for excellent cooling Super silent:1 x fan speed controller optimizing cooling while reducing noise Wire management:fully sleeved cables to avoid clutter and improve airflow Supports ATX Intel 12V V1.2 and AMD systems All connectors, switch and wire sleeves are uv green reactive Protection:Short circuit/ Under voltage/ Over voltage/ Over current/ Over power/ Electric-shock free protection Safety approval:UL, CSA, FCC, CE, CB, TUV High efficiency and reliability Low noise and ripple 100% Burn-in test/ Hi-pot test/ Viibration test/ Leak Current test Specifications Model No. : ATX-AS550W-BK Max. Power : 550W Material : Aluminum Colour : Black Switches : ATX Logic on-off Additional power rocker switch 115/230 Volt selector switch Input : Voltage ranges: 103-132VAC or 206-264VAC RMS switch selectable Input freguency: 50-60Hz Input current: 10A for 115VAC, 5A for 230VAC Inrush current: < 40A @ 115VAC, < 80A @ 230VAC Output : See Table Below Connectors : 1 x Main Power (20+4pin) 1 x 12V (P4) 2 x SATA 1 x PCI-E 8 x Peripheral 2 x Floppy Electrical : Efficiency: > 70% under max range load Rise time: < 20ms Hold up time: > 10ms at full load Overshoot: > 10% Leakage current: < 3.5mA @ 240VAC P.G. Signal:100-500ms Protection : Short-circuit/ Over current/ Over voltage/ Over power/ Under voltage/ Electric shock free Environment : Operation temperature:0°C to 40°C Operation humidity:20% to 90% RH Operation altitude:up to 10,000 ft EMI/RFI : FCC class B, CISPR22 class, BSMI Safety : CB IEC 950/ TUV EN 60950/ UL 1950/ CSA 950 Cooling : Forced air ventilation by 1 x 120mm UV blue fan Fan speed controller : Yes MTBF : 100,000 hours at full load/25°C Dimension : 150mm x 145mm x 86mm (5.9\\\" x 5.7\\\" x 3.4\\\") - W x L x H Weight : 2.27 Kg Output AC INPUT 115V/230V - 60/50Hz DC OUTPUT +3.3V +5V +12V1 +12V2 -12V -5V +5VSB 550W Torrance ±5% +5%-1% ±5% ±5% ±10% ±10% ±5% Max curr 32A 34A 17A 19A 0.8A 0.3A 2.0A Normal current 21A 25A 13A 13A 0.5A 0.5A 2.0A Min curr 0.5A 0.3A 1A 1A 0A 0A 0A Ripple & noise 62mV 102mV 120mV 120mV 120mV 160mV 80mV Line regulation ±1% ±1% ±1% ±1% ±1% ±1% ±1% Load regulation ±5% ±5% ±5% ±5% ±10% ±10% ±5% +5V & 3.3V Combine 200W Max +12V, +5V & +3.3V Combine 530W Max Total Output Power 550W Max

[Jimmy0]

I would not get an Aspire PSU, they are known for their bad quality.

Check this thread for a list of good PSU's.

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=131195

[whitedragon]

lol ok after some head bending research and advice from you peeps and others. And the fact that AMD are puting the new chips back to august i am going C2DUO but i need some more advice
1 to SLI or not to SLI if so what board would be good
2 i found this board not SLI but got good reviews gigbyte
what do you think as now my brain is starting to hurt thanks

[Jimmy0]

SLI is more of a marketing gimmick, it is for the rich who can afford two very high end cards to run in SLI, because otherwise it is pointless.

It is far better to run 1 high end current gen card than 2 last gen cards in SLI, I would say it is better to purchase 1 card, and then save up and you can upgrade the GPU when you see fit. (A few years time).

I would recommend an Asus P5K motherboard to run a C2D chip in.

[Germz]

If you at least want to have the option to run SLI in the future check out evga & gigabyte 680i boards, the latter looking particularly appealing, but its pricey. in terms of PSU stick to quality and reliable brands like Corsair, PC P&C, Enermax, Silverstone and so on, would also suggest getting one with some headroom.

[whitedragon]

so you are saying this is a good board?
Gigabyte

ZOMG have you seen the size of the northbridge heatsink its a woppa

[whitedragon]

ok semifinal list C2DUO

gpu
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...roductID=16628

mobo

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...roductID=17595

ram
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-092-CS

psu
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-005-CS

cpu cooler
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-001-OC

ill wait for the 22nd of july price cuts for the cpu see what the E6600 go's down to
but how dose this list look as now i am going to start ordering parts YAY

[Jimmy0]

What kind of budget do you have, and also do you plan to overclock this build or not.

[whitedragon]

well this is my first build so i may want to do some OC'ing budget around £600

[LeftyAce]

I would get an ASUS motherboard if you can. For a C2D cpu, get one of the P5B or P5K motherboards. Asus is extremely reliable.

[Germz]

Originally Posted by whitedragon so you are saying this is a good board? Gigabyte ZOMG have you seen the size of the northbridge heatsink its a woppa

I was actually talking about this gigabyte board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128037

I haven't seen it in that UK store you are shopping at, do they even have it around your parts? If they do i'd get that one instead of the 650i chipsert. Asus P5B is also a good board, but keep in mind that their tech supports is horrible. Gigabyte on the other hand were very helpful when i called to get some questions answeed.

One other thing i'd like to suggest is that you read some reviews of the board of your choice as well as customer reviews. Also, some board makers, Asus for example, have support forums for their boards, i'd visit those too if i were you just to see what kind of issues folks are having with a particular mobo. Doing all of these things will give you an idea of whatr to expect from the board of your choice.