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06-26-2007, 07:00 AM
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Adice on a build
I'm building my own PC for the first time, because I like to build things and I want to control what goes into my next computer. This computer will be used for heavy gaming, video editting, and music editting. It will not have internet access. I have read up on as much as I can (about 40+/- articles) on computer buidling, computers in general, and specific computer parts. From what I have read, I have compiled this list of parts along with Newegg links for more detail. Price is not a big issue, though I do like to save where I can.
Case: Antec Performance One P180B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017 PSU: need help deciding Mobo: EVGA 122-M2-NF59-TR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188016 CPU: AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103861 HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 (320GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136003 RAM: Corsair Dominator http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145043 Optical Drive: Pioneer DVR-112D http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129007 Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102006 Video card: Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143081 FDD: havn't decided if i want one OS: Windows XP (maybe a partition for Vista) Some specific questions on the build: Should I get a combo optical drive or two seperate ones? How do I find the power needs of my components and a PSU to match? Are these parts compatable and will they perform? Is this build too complicated for a beginner? All advice, suggestions, and solutions are welcomed and highly appreciated. Thank you in advance. |
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06-26-2007, 10:52 AM
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a corsair 520W PSu should be more than enough power for that system.
have you considered an intel code2duo setup? better bang for your buck and possibly more future proof since AMD cannot decide on one socket type at moment. The seagate SATA 320gb is better value as you are doing sound editing, ok on getting a soundcard but for most people onboard sound is good enough. go for a SATA DVD drive and one drive that does everything should be enough, only benefit of two drives is if you want to do a fast copy from one to another. floppy drives are so cheap now i see no point NOT putting one in
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06-26-2007, 11:58 AM
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For the amount of power you need just take a look on the recommended power for that video card. If its gaming that you are using this build for then you should stick with xp but if you want to play games with dx10 then eventually upgrade to vista. As for too complicated, as long as you know stuff like how to put the cpu in the socket then you should be fine. If you find that you have extra funds left over then you might get 4 gigs of ram instead of 2 and just use three of them until you get a 64-bit operating system. By the way intel is probably better.
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06-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion on the PSU and HDD.
As for the two optical drives, I thought that maybe having one for DVDs and one for CD's might produce better quality in each. Intel is better than AMD? One of the articles here said that AMD had a better architecture for multi-core processors than Intel. Guess I have to do a bit more research. |
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06-26-2007, 09:18 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with two opticals...but get both DVD burners (since they are so cheap). I wouldn't mind having two. I wouldn't have to swap out for, say, a game CD for another temporarily, and then swap back.
Currently yes - Intel's Core 2 Duo is superior to what AMD offers. Which article said that? Check the date on it...it was probably created when AMD's Athlon 64 was superior to Intel's Pentium 4. Now the balance of power has shifted back to Intel. Give it some time and it'll shift back.
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06-26-2007, 09:43 PM
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I think I'll just get one optical drive for now and maybe another one later.
I checked the article and I had it wrong. It was AMD's NUMA architecture for multiple processors that was superior to Intel's SMP architecture. My mistake. So what Intel Core 2 Duo processor would you recommend? I haven't researched much into Intel yet, so I will be doing that now. |
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06-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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I would recommend an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=182790
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06-27-2007, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, I was reading this thread:
http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=182828 and he chose a Core 2 Duo E6600. He seemed to get good responses and I'm not into overclocking(don't have the experience) so that seems like my best bet. My new build is: Case: Antec Performance One P180B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017 PSU: Corsair 520W Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001 Mobo: eVGA 680i LT SLI Intel http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188014 CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115003 Thermal paste: Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100009 CPU cooling fan: Thermaltake CL-P0310 120mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106080 HDD: Seagate Barracuda (320GB) http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148140 RAM: Corsair Dominator http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145043 Optical Drive: Lite-on SATA DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827106057 Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102006 Video card: Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130071 FDD: Sony MPF920 Black http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16821103116 OS: Windows XP I can't think of anything else that needs to be changed. |
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06-27-2007, 01:54 PM
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Good call to switch to the e6600.
With that CPU, since you're not overclocking, the ram you have picked out is overkill. Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667 is fine. We recommend the ASUS P5B motherboard with an intel build these days.....very reliable board. SLI is pretty much a gimmick unless you have TONS of money to throw at a pair of the best cards. Otherwise, 1 next gen card will always beat 2 older cards in SLI, so it's better to save the money now and plan to upgrade the GPU more often later. Lastly, unless you're a serious audio nut or do sound recording, the onboard sound on the motherboard is probably fine. If not, you can always add a soundcard later.
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06-27-2007, 06:17 PM
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if you dont plan to overclock stick with the defaut cpu cooler and dont buy that aftermarket one or artic silver
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06-28-2007, 06:36 AM
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If you do not plan to overclock at all, then the stock hs&f is fine, you do not need an aftermarket cooler, and remember if you do use it, it voids your warranty.
Also I would get some Corsair VS 667 RAM rather than the Dominator, it is also over $100 cheaper (without rebates). Also unless you are an audiophile then you will not need a soundcard, onboard is sufficient enough for most people. I suggest you try it with the onboard sound and if it isn't enough you then buy a soundcard, unless you really want one now. |
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06-28-2007, 10:14 AM
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Any specific reason you went with that particular motherboard (eVGA 680i LT SLI Intel)? I haven't heard too many good things about NVidia chipsets used with Intel processors.
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06-28-2007, 03:34 PM
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Wow, so many responses. I lost my internet for a while(problems with my Linux laptop) so sorry for not posting back.
Anyways, some of what I listed was based off of this thread: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=182828 because, that seemed to be a similar goal to mine. That is why I included the fan and thermal paste. So I'll get rid of the after-market CPU fan and Artic silver. I've already changed my board to the suggested ASUS P5B (just didn't post it). When I looked at customer reviews for Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667, many of them said it did not run at 667. Here's the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145098 Is this the RAM you guys were talking about or did I get something wrong. Here is some RAM that looked better to me. Tell me what you think: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145015 The reason I want a sound card is because I'll be using my PC as an amplifier/effects box for my guitar. I guess I just lumped that in with music editing. So here is the new list: Case: Antec Performance One P180B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129017 PSU: Corsair 520W Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139001 Mobo: ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131045 CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115003 HDD: Seagate Barracuda (320GB) http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148140 RAM: still deciding Optical Drive: Lite-on SATA DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827106057 Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102006 Video card: Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130071 FDD: Sony MPF920 Black http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16821103116 OS: Windows XP And thanks again for all the responses. |
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06-28-2007, 04:26 PM
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If it's not running at 667 when you install it you've just got to set it to run at 667 (versus Auto or whatever the default is). Only reason I see for it not being able to run at 667 is that you are using a processor with a FSB speed of 533. The E6600 runs twice that so there shouldn't be a problem... |
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06-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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Thanks, I guess I'm set then. I really appreciate all of your help.
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