Hey Everyone!

[AndrewT]

Hi everyone! I've managed to save up 2,500 USA Currency


I really dont know what to do in the building wise for parts.. I would really like a Really good gaming computer for myself ive worked hard for this.. Maybe Dual SLI? or something i think please helpme with good builds thank you that also needs to include a good screen ... thank you everyone

[Cricket]

AMD or INTEL?

Will you be building this computer yourself? Have any experience or do you need to see a tutorial?

Does the $2,500 include only the box (just the computer with OS installed) or everything (monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc...)

Cricket

[AndrewT]

ok umm cricket.. intel or amd.. witch ever is best for gaming / fastest i will be not overclocking or anything like that.. yes i need a tutorial i will build it myself i heard i can build a comp for that much and be very good such as.. if i spend 2,500 at alienware it wont be that good but if i spend it and build it myself.. i can get something 100x better.. yes that has to include all that stuff.. i dont want a printer tho.. just need comp / screen / speakers with that setup.. ill take care of the mouse / KB ( will pick out from personal choice )


Edit: witch Operating system is best for gaming? I tend do ALOT of gaming.. for all the upcoming games age of conan , warhammer , stargate , etc etc etc on the Highest settings possible for each without a centimeter of lag.. if thats possible..

[wildfire]

You would need vista if you want highest possible settings, because of directx 10.

[AndrewT]

i heard vista is really horrible not compatible with anything

[shadowpr]

compatible with new stuff.

but if you don't want to risk it, then get xp.

[Alaron]

Here is a list to get you started Andrew.

Asus P5K Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo Q6600 CPU
2GB DDR2-800 Corsair
320GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Drive
EVGA Geforce 8800GT Video Card
Corsair 520HX Power Supply
LiteOn DVD Burner
Any case you like

For a monitor, I like Samsung. 22" screens are at a great price right now.

[hitchface]

Vista is getting better, SP1 is not that far off and will be the standard for gaming unless something miraculous happens and Linux takes the lead (won't happen).

wildfire was right about DX10. It also will be the standard and enables a lot more eye candy in said games, and you can bet that there are a few more DX10 video cards coming down the pipe before long.

Aside from that, your 2500 ought to snag you one heckuva machine!

[AndrewT]

alaron thats the best stuff out for a gaming PC? that will run my computer super fast and i can put MAX graphics on any game without a peice of lag? how much is all that btw?

also where can i find these screens at? what about speakers where can i find those ..?.. umm alaron also.. Vista Or XP?


Also i really dont like Widescreen.. makes everything look Fat..

But i really am liking this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001240 but is this one HD? .. or what?

[Alaron]

You can tweak that list some, its just to get you started. Should ring up well under your $2500 budget.

Where are you located? For the U.S. we recommend www.newegg.com

[3roms]

I heard that XP was coming out with a direct X 10, is that true?

[Katreat]

Originally Posted by 3roms I heard that XP was coming out with a direct X 10, is that true?

Have not heard that and personally doubt it. They want people moving to Vista so it would not be in their best interest to add features to XP. They will continue to support it, but new features are unlikely. Persoanlly I went with Vista and have not had any problem with software except one burning program which required a patch thta was easy to download.

Kat

[AndrewT]

Hey.... alaron.. what do you mean by tweaking??? That build wont run any game on full graphics and not lag??


yeah im in USA..

im guessing vista then huh?... Ok can you direct me to the OS..

whats with all these vista dvds and edition.. witch is the best for gaming?.

Asus P5K Motherboard theres alot of those.. can be more specific please?

some of the parts you said .. theres different ones when i search.. like EVGA Geforce 8800GT Video Card there's 3 of them.. could u be more specific please?..

[shadowpr]

A lot of it will depend on other things that you are looking for. You need to do some reading on the products.

An example is the P5K. Some versions include wifi, while others don't. Some support raid, and others don't. Those are things you need to figure out whether you need/want or not. We wouldn't know that, unless you tell us.

Read product specifications. Also search some of the build your own threads and you'll get an idea about some builds. There are a lot of them about gaming rigs.

About the different vista versions: http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=174704

It becomes a personal choice. What I might like for my computer, might not work for you. In the end, we can offer a few different suggestions for everything, but you're going to be the one that has to give the credit card information and live with the build. So put a fair amount of time into deciding, and that way you will be happy with what you have.

Personally, I went with Vista HP 64. Search the Vista thread and you will see discussions about the 32 versus 64 bit as well.

HTH

[AndrewT]

im still at a loss.. i dont know anything about comps but windows vista home premium looks best.. but it doesnt say anything about 32 or 64 bit w/e that is..

[shadowpr]

One of the big things about 32 vs 64 bit is how much memory can be utilized by windows.

With the 32 bit, Windows will probably only see about 3gb (give or take), while with a 64 bit, it will see more then that.

Some drivers might be a bit harder to find with the 64 bit as well, but if you have newer stuff, then it shouldn't be a problem.

[wammy_bar]

alright, you're gonna want to get AT LEAST a geforce 8800 gt like he said, but tbh, you should go higher since you have more money to spend and that one is more of a bang for the buck card. those video cards are gonna require more watts from a psu, so keep that in mind. look at the core 2 duo series, sont bother with amd for now, i hear about them running hot for high performance gaming. you can explore quad cores but they can run hot as well, but you aren't overclocking so they are definitely a good thing to consider, very future proof. look up what video card and processors others use for the game crysis, its pretty much what everyone is aiming for. make sure they are able to use the very high dx10 settings.

[AndrewT]

Yeah i cant figure out anything could someone link all the best parts.. for a 2,500 gaming rig.. and ill just buy it and build it.. what alaron said i guess is good but i cant find the EXACT parts i type in 1 thing 100 other things pop up its to confusing.. please someone help..


still no answer.. .... .... ....

[AndrewT]

K since noone replys in over a few hours ill post this ..

Case: http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-alien-x-case.html
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Power%2bSupply
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131187
CPU: i dont know i cant find the one Alaron said.. if anyone can find it PLEASE Link it for me
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2bHard%2bDrive
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145176
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130303
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116202
Extras: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106053
Screen: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001096

OK is there ANYTHING else i need??... Is everything Compatible ETC ETC! Is this everything that Alaron said? Except the Ram.. I put up the 4 gig.. i think that would be better. do i need any fans anymore parts any wires.. etc etc please help me out here im eager..

[shadowpr]

I would switch the MB to one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131196 or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131180

For CPU, if you want the best available: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115026 (This is definately not worth it in my opinion, but it's your option)
CPU i would consider: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115027 or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028 or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115029

For the video card, I would get what you have on your list, it's the bang for the buck, and it performs great. A card that performs a slight bit better, but costs a lot more is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130078


With that vista, just know that windows will not see all 4gb of RAM.

If you want an external burner, I gues that's ok. If you want an internal one, I would get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106072

Good monitor.

[RazR]

because your are going with a 32-bit OS, it will not be able to see all 4gbs, the memory cap is around 3.2GB (or so i've heard)
you will be fine with 2gb of ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590
you will need an optical drive, instead of an externalhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106073
here is the Intel Q6600 processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

you MAY need another SATA cable ( or 2), i just did a quick glance..
but everything looks good

[RazR]

guess shadow beat me to it
haha

[AndrewT]

K keep posting more!

[AndrewT]

ok here's the list.. I guess i updated it for the stuff you guys said.. and got 64 bit OS for the 4 gig... Please check everything on the list make sure i didnt miss type or mess up Anything please.. do i need anything extra? Whats FDD? and do i need a sound card and w/e else..


Case: http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-alien-x-case.html
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Power%2bSupply

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131196

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

HDD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2bHard%2bDrive

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145176

Pri Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106072

Sec Optical: ___________________________________________________________________

Sound Card: __________________________________________________________________

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130303

FDD: ________________________________________________________________________

Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823175103

Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104178

Modem: ______________________________________________________________________

Lan: _________________________________________________________________________

Monitor: _____________________________________________________________________

Speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836116153

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116204

Screen: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001096

[RazR]

here a little taste...only gonna cost a little over $2000 from newgg.com
i was not able to find any of the higher clocked 8800GT's so i just tossed in an 8800GTX
the earlier u can find a 8800GT the better...

but heres the setup
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05 - OEM
$33.99

Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BWS Black 1.0mm SECC Chassis/ Aluminum Front Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$164.99

Seagate ST3500631NS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$119.99

SAMSUNG 206BW Black 20" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
-$30.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

$299.99
$269.99

EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$589.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$159.99

Logitech X-230 32 watts RMS 2.1 Black Speaker System - OEM
$38.99

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$76.00

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
$149.99

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
$279.99

Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
-$10.00 Instant
$189.99
$179.99

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[wammy_bar]

for speaker, keyboard, and mouse, i would go with some logitech stuff, they have a good following, are generally reliable, and make great gaming peripherals.

go on newegg and just pick out a lan and modem and some other things, and just post them up here, people will tell you if they are bad or if anything is wrong with the setup, dont be intimidated by 100 results, thats just 99 more things you can turn to if one isn't right for you.

[RazR]

you don't need a sound card...
the onboard sound is fairly good..
it still still give you quality sound

[AndrewT]

ok Razr love the build But 2 things wrong.. i want surround sound :P and are you sure the screen is big enough... i wanted the 22" :P

[AndrewT]

here is the speakers i want http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836116153
Newegg.com - Creative Inspire P7800 90 Watts 7.1 Speaker - Retail

heres the screen http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001096

[AndrewT]

here is my new build .. just changed speakers and screen


LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106073
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy



$33.99




Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BWS Black 1.0mm SECC Chassis/ Aluminum Front Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BWS Black 1.0mm SECC Chassis/ Aluminum Front Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811133037
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy



$164.99




Seagate ST3500631NS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Seagate ST3500631NS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148286
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy



$119.99




SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor

SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824001096
Return Policy: [LCD] Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

-$20.00 Instant
$40.00 Mail-in Rebate

$339.99
$319.99




EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130079
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy


$10.00 Mail-in Rebate

$589.99




CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139005
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

$159.99




Creative Inspire P7800 90 Watts 7.1 Speaker

Creative Inspire P7800 90 Watts 7.1 Speaker - Retail
Item #: N82E16836116153
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

$86.99
$76.99




CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145590
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy


$30.00 Mail-in Rebate

$76.00




ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131196
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy



$149.99




Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115017
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy



$279.99




Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116213
Return Policy: Software Return Policy