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Old 07-22-2008, 04:48 AM   #1
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Hello world,

Well I am happy to find this place. Totally cool. Ok you guess it; I am a wannabe geek and proud of it. Of course I am going to build my first PC here soon; I am a graphic artist and wanted some opinions on my choices, thanks in advance. Note I was going to water cool it but decided against that because price and scared of frying the stuff i am trying to cool. Sound and loudness are not really an issue. I have a crappie dell dimension right now and it is somewhat loud. Some stuff you might not care about but I wanted to follow the rules and give you all as much info as possible.

Erick Main

Here it is!

ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
ATI CrossFireX technology, exceptional 3D experience http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131296

$159.99

ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 800W ATX12V / EPS12V Patent Piperock Modular Power Supply 115 - 230V ± 10% tolerance TUV, UL, CE, CB, FCC, Semko, Nemko, Demko, Fimko – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817814014

$189.99

LINKSKEY LKA-CR15B 19-in-1 USB 2.0 Black Card Reader/Writer - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820300901
$10.99

LG Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM: 16X Blu-ray DVD-ROM: 6X HD DVD-ROM: 3X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 24X CD-RW 4MB Cache SATA Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136133

$149.99

pqi TURBO 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141366

$71.99

SAPPHIRE 100236L Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102726

$59.99 X2 120.00

APEVIA X-PLEASURE-BK Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail
(selected it for the size and price)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144128

$149.99

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor – Retail (selected it for the price) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

$209.99

Western Digital Caviar SE WD5000AAJS 500GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136178

$74.99

Cyber Acoustics CA3090WB 26 watts 2.1 Black Gaming Speaker – OEM (not that important to me. All I need them for is to perceive some kind of music and to hear when my PC says NO)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836150043

$16.49

WACOM Cintiq 12WX 10.3" x 6.4" Active Area USB LCD Tablet Sketchbook – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823100048

$999.99

Acer X193W+BD Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2000:1 (ACM) – Retail
(I currently have one 19” flat screen and two huge 22” CRTs I want the CRTs to go)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009127

$159.99

Sunbeam RHK-EX-BA Rheobus-Extreme Fan Controller Panel - Retail
(just because its cool looking)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811995016
$34.99

VIZO-RCL-301 Tri-Fan RAM Cooler – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835425002
$17.99

VANTEC ICEBERQ DDR-A1A Aluminum Heatsinks only – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835110104

$4.99 x2 = 10.00


Sunbeam Solar Illuminated Keyboard - Silver
http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-solar-...rd-silver.html

$19.99


Sunbeam Acrylic Mouse http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-acrylic-mouse.html

$9.99


Link Depot SCW-10-BU Blue Aluminum screw – Retail
$1.49

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811989006


ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler – Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

$31.99


LinkStation EZ 500 GB Network Hard Drive http://www.techonweb.com/products/pr...=A004B2&src=DT

$144.78
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Welcome to PCM. Good start to your list, I have a few ideas.

First, I'd swap for this hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...200.11%2b500gb The larger cache is worth it.

Second, I wouldn't bother Crossfiring low end cards. Check out a single card like the HD4850. A bit more expensive, but very worth it right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121253

Finally, you don't need such an expensive power supply. The Corsair 650 would be a great unit instead.
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Pretty much all the 4850s have MIRs now. Great deal.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:35 PM   #4
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Welcome to PCM. Good start to your list, I have a few ideas.

First, I'd swap for this hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...200.11%2b500gb The larger cache is worth it.

Second, I wouldn't bother Crossfiring low end cards. Check out a single card like the HD4850. A bit more expensive, but very worth it right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121253

Finally, you don't need such an expensive power supply. The Corsair 650 would be a great unit instead.
what is Crossfiring? i just want 4 monitors eventually so should i worry about the card still? sorry thanks
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:38 PM   #5
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what is Crossfiring?
Using multiple ATi video cards in one machine (like you indicated in your parts list).

It is the equivalent of nVidia's SLI.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:46 PM   #6
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Using multiple ATi video cards in one machine (like you indicated in your parts list).

It is the equivalent of nVidia's SLI.
(thank you so much for the input)
ahh i just looked it up. well do i have to link them with the SLI/crossfire? or can i just go with the cheeper card and have the outputs for more monitors?
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How many monitors are you planning on using?
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:51 PM   #8
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Welcome to PCM. Good start to your list, I have a few ideas.

First, I'd swap for this hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...200.11%2b500gb The larger cache is worth it.

Second, I wouldn't bother Crossfiring low end cards. Check out a single card like the HD4850. A bit more expensive, but very worth it right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121253

Finally, you don't need such an expensive power supply. The Corsair 650 would be a great unit instead.
650W is enough power? with in a year i want to max out this machine so 16 gb ram 7 hard drives and of course all the unneeded lighting that looks cool
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How many monitors are you planning on using?
4 of these (Acer X193W+BD Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2000:1) i am not much of a gamer. i play City of heros some times, but i am a graphic artist and i love my current 3 monitor setup 1 lcd and 2 CRT.
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I have little experiene with CrossFire or more than 2 monitors, so someone else will have to help out on this front.

As for whether you 'have' to CrossFire the two cards - there is no reason to not. It takes no extra work and allows the cards to process graphics cooperatively.
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Pretty much all the 4850s have MIRs now. Great deal.
i am looking at the specifications for

(ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail)

and dont see any thing called MIRs what is that? thanks so much you guys rock!
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i am looking at the specifications for

(ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail)

and dont see any thing called MIRs what is that? thanks so much you guys rock!
Mail in Rebates, sorry. Those 4000 series cards are the hot new thing right now, came out about 3 weeks ago and have since dropped from $200 to about $150 after rebates. However, if you don't game you may not need cards that good. Depends on your graphic design programs' needs.
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Ah, well if you need multiple monitors, then those cards are fine.

As for the power supply, it can handle more hard drives and RAM. Though I think 7 drives and 16gigs is overkill.
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many thanks to you all, man you guys rock! thanks for putting up with me. one last question? do you think all this stuff is compatible? that is my biggest worry.
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You don't need the RAM heatsinks or the RAM fan either, I'd drop them. If you really want some neat lights you can get the fan, but most RAM comes with preattached heatsinks that removing would void your warranty I'd bet.

Mushkin has some cool heatsinks on their ram, you might like that. They're top notch manufacturer as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146731
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G.SKILL heatspreaders > Mushkin heatspreaders

Either way, they're both solid brands.
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