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01-27-2009, 05:41 PM
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First Time System Build
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I'm looking for some advice on building a PC for the first time. My current PC is a Dell Dimesion 2400 which is pretty old. Old CRT, keyboard, mouse, etc. I would like to build a high performance PC. I do occasional gaming, but I will probably be doing video editing, watching Blu-Ray movies, running graphics/photo software, and a ton of internet browsing. My budget would be about $2,000 for everything including the OS, monitor, drives. I was thinking of waiting a little while until the core i7 establishes itself. Any suggestions on what to read, what hardware to get would be appreciated. Also, I had one question that I have always wondered. Is there a difference between a gaming system and a high performance system? Is a gaming system or a gaming part just really fast, or is it designed just for gaming? For instance, http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...ra_sli_us.html Nvidia states that the 790i is the foundation for the the world's fastest gaming PCs. Would this motherboard be equally as efficient at video editing? Thanks a lot, infowarrior |
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01-27-2009, 05:59 PM
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The 790i is a Sli motherboard which means running two video cards in a Sli configuration. For your use, a mobo with a single video card would do.
For motherboards, the Asus brand is a good starting point no matter which CPU you go with. For DVD/CD drives, Lite-On/LG/Asus are good brands. For HDs, WD is the brand of choice at this time. Corsair for ram and PSUs. For video cards, ATI is a bit better for the photo type work, Nvidia is more of the gaming card.
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01-27-2009, 06:16 PM
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It is not rocket science to what we recommend but in order for you to gain the best possible value for your hard earned two grand, it is important to establish what is important for you. I will also add that you can build a very nice PC for 2K but to get the "biggest bang for your buck", you are best to tell us your games and software so we can return value. There is a plethora of info on the web and I trust you did a great service to yourself in asking this question, on this website, there are a great many that have some serious experience here and will help you with through your build. Last edited by jdeb; 01-27-2009 at 06:25 PM. |
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01-27-2009, 10:10 PM
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Hey,
Thanks for the advice. One thing that I have to have is a really nice high res LCD monitor. I was thinking of http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Dell/SP2309W/ I also need dual drives, if possible one of them a BluRay. The programs I will be running will be Adobe Elements, iTunes, MotionDV studio (Panasonic video editor), MS Office Home and Student, Windows Media Player. I will be running Windows Vista Home Premium. For games, http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.co...oducts&lang=en http://www.evolvedgames.com/Lockon-support.htm Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. infowarrior45 |
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01-28-2009, 02:12 PM
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1565.00 before shipping...
case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112148 dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136152 blue ray / dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136155 memory and cpu combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.154082 motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131299 video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102810 hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136283 power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 the coolest keyboard besides the clicky http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823175103 mouse http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104178 card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820300608 operating system http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116493 Last edited by jdeb; 01-28-2009 at 02:29 PM. |
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01-28-2009, 02:18 PM
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I would recommend getting the P5Q instead as its the standard recommendation:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131295 $108.99 You can always lower the PSU to a Corsair 650W: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%20650w $79.99 after $20 rebate. No need to get Ultimate, no point. Instead get Vista HP: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 $99.99 otherwise everything is fine. Last edited by tomtoon; 01-28-2009 at 02:22 PM. |
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01-28-2009, 02:30 PM
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01-28-2009, 02:37 PM
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Ok then jdeb.
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01-28-2009, 06:32 PM
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Hey guys,
Thanks a lot for the help. A couple of thing: Will this setup be really high performance for multi tasking with many programs open at the same time? Also, will it be outdated soon by the Core i7 platform? I found this Core i7 cpu and mobo for a little more. Would this be noticeably faster? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...SI-_-13130216R I have a Dell Inspirion 1720 laptop with a Core 2 Duo T7500 2.20Ghz, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8600M GT, running Windows Vista. I would like my new desktop to be much faster than this one runs...I wasn't super impressed. I will probably want to overclock this system after I understand it. My uncle or his friend might be able to help me on that. Which would be better for overclocking, the Core i7 or the Core 2 Duo? Thanks, infowarrior |
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01-29-2009, 08:44 AM
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You can get a very good case for a lot less than the Lian Li. Take a look at CoolerMaster or Antec.
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01-29-2009, 10:40 AM
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if you want core i7, get this CPU: $294.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202 this MB: $184.99 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128375 and this RAM: $75.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231190 this should do you. Unless you wanted triple channel RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231222 $78.99 |
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01-29-2009, 05:49 PM
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Thanks guys!! I'm starting to get a picture of the system I want to have.
One question, both the links you gave me for Vista were 64bit. What is the main difference/advantage between 64bit and 32bit Vista? If I did have 64bit would I not want more RAM? (6GB vs. 3GB) How do I find out if my current programs are compatible with 64bit OS? Thanks a lot, Infowarrior |
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01-29-2009, 06:46 PM
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if you were to go with i7, then I would have had a total different build. i had a great build for one that i just did but you made a comment on waiting for it.
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01-29-2009, 09:25 PM
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jdeb, I would love to see the build you have for a Core i7 system. I actually meant that I might wait to altogether to build a system until the Core i7 has been out for longer. Would it be a good idea to wait till it proves itself, and more/cheaper hardware comes out for it, or is it a good time to buy right now?
Thanks, infowarrior45 |
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01-30-2009, 04:33 PM
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i7 build 1790.00, This is one smokin computer
motherboard cpu combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.156587 triple chanel mem kit 6gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231223 video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102810 power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112148 hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136283 dvd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136152 blue ray http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136155 card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820300608 keyboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823175103 mouse http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104178 OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116493 Read the manual on the motherboard carefully and you will be golden. It is not the easiest to set up if you are in a hurry and don't like to read directions, read the directions carefully and build outside of the case, we can provide a link if you like. If you do not want to follow the directions carefully then go with this board... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121361 The second most amazing motherboard I have used in a build is the foxconn "bloodrage". I think this is the best board out there for gamers but the Renaissance is a perfect piece of art in my mind. Last edited by jdeb; 01-30-2009 at 09:03 PM. |
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02-05-2009, 07:44 PM
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jdeb, that looks like a pretty cool rig. I just had a couple of questions....
1. Where is the sound card installed on the Foxconn motherboard? Is this any better than the integrated sound on the rest of the X58 mobos? 2. I am getting this graphics card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102796 From the reviews, it sounds like this card is pretty big. Will this fit ok in a mid tower case? Lian-Li one is a little expensive for me, so I am looking around. Last question. Is there ANY advantage of a 64bit OS? I know you can use over 3GB RAM, but a 64 bit OS ends up using a lot more RAM than a 32 bit OS, right? So is there a significant advantage. Thanks a ton!! infowarrior45 |
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02-06-2009, 02:07 AM
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That card will fit fine.
There isn't an advantage, but its you can use 4GB or more RAM as you state. It doesn't use up more RAM either mate. Hope it helps. |
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02-06-2009, 09:29 AM
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02-09-2009, 05:10 PM
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Thanks for all your help. One last question. What would be a good case with an e-SATA front port on it? I found quite a few on Newegg, but they all seem to be about the same.
Thanks a lot, infowarrior45 |
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02-09-2009, 05:32 PM
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02-10-2009, 12:28 AM
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02-11-2009, 11:49 PM
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A case is one of the few refurbs that you should be able to buy worry free. Especially directly from the manufacturer.
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02-12-2009, 07:08 AM
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didn't know they sold refurbs, nice link .... thanks
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02-12-2009, 09:31 PM
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Thanks a lot for the link...nice way to save some $$. Wonder if this would fit two 4870s doing Crossfire? or two GTX 260s doing SLI?
Also, I was just thinking, how does the power button on the case hook up to the motherboard? What about the HDD access LED? Thanks, infowarrior45 |
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02-12-2009, 09:48 PM
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The motherboard has pins that the power button, and hd led would connect to. Usually two little pins.
The motherboard manual will tell you what pins are what.
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02-12-2009, 09:56 PM
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it depends on the motherboard, you have to look at the manual or quick setup guide. there will be a front panel pin layout on the motherboard. the case or front panel wires are marked and should be attached in reference to them. once in a while you may find a three pin case wire but there will not be a wire in the middle, you can simply cut this in down the middle, clean the edges, in order to use on two pins if the motherboard is layed out this way.
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