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Old 02-18-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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What do you guys think of this setup?

Sony Optiarc 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model AD-7220A - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118022

RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156078

HITACHI 0A38016 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145233

ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen 16:9 Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236053

ASUS M3A78-T AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131331

SAPPHIRE 100249L Radeon HD 3850 1GB 256-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102793

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341017

Koutech IO-FPM421 5-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB 2.0 / Firewire 1394a / Audio Ports / eSATA (3.5")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820162019

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145214

AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103244

Noctua NH-U12P 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608002

Please let me know what you think of this setup.

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Old 02-18-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
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Are you planning to overclock?
If not, this RAM would be fine:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145184 $29.99 after $30 rebate.

Are you planning to game?
This card would be better for it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161259 $129.99 after $10 rebate.

Do you have an O.S, or are you planning to use LINUX?
If not, this windows is recommended:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 $99.99

Stock cooling should be fine unless you're overclocking.

The rest looks ok.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:57 PM   #3
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Change that dvd drive to a lite-on, asus, or lg. And make it sata

Get a western digital hard drive. Caviar black sata.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:31 PM   #4
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The heatsink you listed seems like overkill for your processor; the phenom 9600 doesn't overclock too well and also doesn't produce too much heat; a heatsink such as this might be a better more economical choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185125.

I don't think it makes sense to use the higher end 790GX chipset for a low-end phenom such as the 9600; a solid 780G based motherboard would work fine and save a good amount of money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131324.

You don't need to overclock the processor in order to take advantage of DDR2-1066; however you should check to make sure that the board supports it; a lot of DDR2-1066 ram has trouble running at that speed. You might want to take a look at getting less expensive DDR2-800 ram since DDR2-1066 won't do much for you in terms of increasing performance.

The HD3850 is getting a bit old (and 1GB won't really do much unless you have a 24 inch monitor or larger) and has trouble keeping up with newer games; for the same price you could go with a faster HD3870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102719, or for a bit more you could go for a HD4830 which has double the shader processors of either the HD3850 or HD3870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102803
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:06 PM   #5
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Okay, sorry I didn't post this before (I was in a hurry and had other stuff to do)
but this computer will be used for multitasking (say 10 browsers, 4-5 big programs, email, and multiple folders open at once) and (if possible) I would also like it to be able to edit HD video (using sony vegas 8) without bogging it down. I would like it to have the ability to support a 25" monitor, and a HD tv. The bad news is I can't spend more than $1000.00 on it including monitor. So if you guys can suggest a build that would be great .

Multitasking is the most important part, because it will be a business computer.

I might do some overclocking if I can get all the parts I need.

It will also be used for some light gaming (nothing high end) but I do need a graphics card that can handle video editing preview and a HD tv.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

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P.S.I'm not set on any particular parts right now,
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:53 PM   #6
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The 4850 I posted should be fine, and so should the RAM that you originally posted as you've now described your usage
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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Here is a good setup for $1000 that can handle your tasks:

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-08
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106264
$25.99

Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129024
$129.99

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136317
$109.99

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236052
$239.99

ASUS M3A78 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131340
$79.99

POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129
$89.99

Koutech IO-FPM421 5-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB 2.0 / Firewire 1394a / Audio Ports / eSATA (3.5")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820162019
$14.89

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
$45.99

AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HD995ZXAGHBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291
$148.00

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116511
$89.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185125
$19.99

Subtotal: $994.80
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:46 PM   #8
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Smart, would you need a terabyte?

If not you could get a WD CAVIAR BLACK 500GB and then have Vista Home Premium 64-bit.
There are alot of bugs with 64-bit XP, I hear.

HD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 $74.99

VISTA:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116488 $99.99

If i take out the others and put mine in, the build comes to: $969.80
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:35 PM   #9
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so is there much difference between 800mhz ram and 1066mhz ?

And yeah a 1TB would be good because we go threw GB like you would go threw MBs LOL

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Old 02-19-2009, 07:54 PM   #10
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Here is a good setup for $1000 that can handle your tasks:

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-08
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106264
$25.99

Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129024
$129.99

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136317
$109.99

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236052
$239.99

ASUS M3A78 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131340
$79.99

POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129
$89.99

Koutech IO-FPM421 5-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB 2.0 / Firewire 1394a / Audio Ports / eSATA (3.5")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820162019
$14.89

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
$45.99

AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HD995ZXAGHBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291
$148.00

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116511
$89.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185125
$19.99

Subtotal: $994.80
why not this monitor:
Asus VH226H 2ms HDMI widescreen 1080p monitor $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236051
specs are similar & this one has quicker response times & HDMI, well worth the 2.1 inches in size difference... at least to me, plus its $40 cheaper
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why not this monitor:
Asus VH226H 2ms HDMI widescreen 1080p monitor $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236051
specs are similar & this one has quicker response times & HDMI, well worth the 2.1 inches in size difference... at least to me, plus its $40 cheaper
Both monitors have HDMI and similar specs. The less expensive one is a bit small for its resolution though and you will be really hard pressed to notice a difference between a 2ms and 5ms response time; both are more than adequate for gaming and multimedia.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:54 PM   #12
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so is there much difference between 800mhz ram and 1066mhz ?

And yeah a 1TB would be good because we go threw GB like you would go threw MBs LOL

~Fisher
There is a difference between 800MHz and 1066MHz ram; however it is pretty small and the higher latencies of 1066MHz ram reduces the performance difference. The main reason not to go with 1066MHz ram is because of compatibility issues with the motherboards; 1066MHz ram has to use more than the stock amount of voltage and so some motherboards don't work properly with this type of ram unless it is on their QVL (Qualified Vendor's List).

It's never a bad idea to get more storage; you will always be adding new data to the computer. Even if you don't manage to use most of the space; hard drives which have a higher percentage of free space run faster than drives which are fuller.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:47 PM   #13
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What do you guys think of this monitor? cheap junk?

I-Inc iF251HPB 25" Widescreen Active Matrix TFT Display - 2ms, 1920x1080, HDMI, VGA
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0&sku=H94-2500

$199.99

And how about this:


LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-08
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106264
$25.99

Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129024
$129.99

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136317
$109.99


ASUS M3A78-T AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131331
$138.99


POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131129
$89.99

Koutech IO-FPM421 5-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader with USB 2.0 / Firewire 1394a / Audio Ports / eSATA (3.5")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820162019
$14.89

Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N6/4G -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134863
$95.99 X4


AMD Phenom 9950 Agena 2.6GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HD995ZXAGHBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103291
$148.00

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116511
$89.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185125
$19.99

~$1,110.77

Plus monitor

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Oh and thanks for the help everyone

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If you're planning to use SD cards with the card reader you might want to look for one that says it can handle SDHC (4GB and above). Of my four assorted card readers, none say they're SDHC-compatible and only one actually works with SDHC cards.
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Can't say I've heard of that monitor brand. I'd stick with something better known like Samsung, Acer, Viewsonic.

The build list looks good. I'd go with the RAM kit that Masaki suggested earlier. No reason to spend so much on just one 4GB stick.
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Can't say I've heard of that monitor brand. I'd stick with something better known like Samsung, Acer, Viewsonic.

The build list looks good. I'd go with the RAM kit that Masaki suggested earlier. No reason to spend so much on just one 4GB stick.

Well what I was thinking is the mobo in my last post can handle 16GB of ram so if I put a 4GB stick in then I'll be able to upgrade it later to the max without having to take ram out.

Do you think I would be able to take full advantage of the 16GBs of ram if I installed vista 64bit?


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64Bit Vista could handle lots of RAM sure, but the point is that you'd never need that much.
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I bought a 6 pack of these monitors and returned all of them the same day I got them. Thank God it didn't cost me anything! Each one had dead pixels, well 4 out of 6 I should say, the other two were dead and it sounded like there were pebbles in the monitor. Stay away from these and Tiger, I have not had very good luck with them.
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Okay what is more important for multitasking more ram or faster CPU?

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Thanks jdeb I'll forget that one and probably go with the asus.

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Okay what is more important for multitasking more ram or faster CPU?

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If you have enough ram (at least 2GB), then the CPU is more important for multitasking than more ram. Using Windows XP for multitasking, I never even reach 1GB of ram usage. If you want to get a faster CPU, take a look at the Phenom II X4 940: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471
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