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Old 06-23-2009, 08:41 PM   #1
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good layout?

ok well im starting to build my next semi-hardcore gaming computer within my budget and i was wondering what u guys would think of it. and also i wanted to know if using one 640 gb harddrive is ok for this?

heres the layout. :]

powersupply=Seventeam ST-850PAF 850W ATX 12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
case=Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX Computer Gaming Chassis with Dual Oversized 230mm Ultra-Silent Cooling Fans VJ400G1N2Z Mid ... - Retail
motherboard=EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI FTW ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
processor=AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX920XCGIBOX - Retail
graphics card=EVGA 512-P3-N884-TR GeForce 9800 GTX+ Superclocked 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video ... - Retail
harddrive=Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
memory=G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-3GBNQ - Retail
operating system=Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - OEM
opticaldrive= LG blu-ray dvd cd-rom thingy i found

if im missing something let me know lolz
and im gunna be playing crysis and unrealtournemant and games like that straight off the bat so tell me if this is ok for that?
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:10 PM   #2
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AMD processors don't work in Intel motherboards.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:17 PM   #3
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sry wrong processor

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AMD processors don't work in Intel motherboards.
the processor is Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 Wolfdale 3.06GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:30 PM   #4
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A few things pop out to me.

First, I've never heard of 'Seventeam' brand power supplies. I would look at Corsair brand instead. They are very high quality.

Next, I'd look at an Asus P5Q motherboard instead of eVGA. Asus is very good quality.

Last, you need DDR2 instead of DDR3. I'd get Corsair DDR2-800.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:51 PM   #5
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Intel Processors work best with Intel Chipsets so I totally agree with Alaron, the Asus P5Q series motherboards are awesome, stay away from the SE and SE plus models though, the 24 pin ATX plug is in aweful spot. I recommend the P5Q Pro model.
The EVGA 9800GTX is obsolete in my opinion, check out the ATI 4850, much better gaming card.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:56 PM   #6
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Since it's a budget build, you probably don't really need the all bells and whistles of the Asus P5Q Pro. Possibly the P5Q or P5Q SE instead if you're looking to save some cash.

For an ATi video card, I'd recommend the HIS brand, and if the 4850 is too expensive for your budget, next significant drop in price is the 4650 (crysis will probably chug on the 4650, though).

By the way, what exactly is your budget for this build?
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Since it's a budget build, you probably don't really need the all bells and whistles of the Asus P5Q Pro. Possibly the P5Q or P5Q SE instead if you're looking to save some cash.

For an ATi video card, I'd recommend the HIS brand, and if the 4850 is too expensive for your budget, next significant drop in price is the 4650 (crysis will probably chug on the 4650, though).

By the way, what exactly is your budget for this build?
well my budget is around 1k and the 4850 doesnt perform quite as well as the 9800gtx when it comes to overclocking.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:09 AM   #8
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wich RAM is better?HELP?!

would ram with DDR2 800 with the same 2 gig as RAM with DDR 1066 perform the same becasue i havnt figures out what the number after DDR1,2or3 means. DDR2___<--?

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
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G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
witch one performs better?
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:12 AM   #9
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Yeah, like I said before go with the P5Q Pro, it fits your budget and is a very good motherboard for later expansions. I recommend you go with an Asus video card, they have the best support and their cards run the coolest of the lot. You can even fit a 4870 in your budget which is a big performance boost over the 4850.
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To use with what motherboard? DDR1 is obsolete.
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Yeah, like I said before go with the P5Q Pro, it fits your budget and is a very good motherboard for later expansions. I recommend you go with an Asus video card, they have the best support and their cards run the coolest of the lot. You can even fit a 4870 in your budget which is a big performance boost over the 4850.
so the 4870 is better than the 9800 gtx and wait does it matter that the 9800gtx is DDR3? will it still work on the motherboard p5q or the motherboard i listed? this is only my second build so im a lil nooby about all of it.
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pq5 or 750i FTW

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To use with what motherboard? DDR1 is obsolete.
not the DDR1 DDR2 or DDR3 i asking abou the numbers that come after the 1 2 or 3
DDR2 800??????
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:23 AM   #13
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The 9800GTX is outdated video card, the ATI 4870 and 4890 are pretty much the better gaming cards currently. If you want to compare Nvidia card to the 4870 you will need to look at the GTX260 and 275 but the ATI cards game much better.
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To use with what? Better is only relevant to what you are using it with. RAM sticks don't work by themselves. For P5Q you need DDR2 800 if you using E8xxx cpu if you going with lower intel then DDr2 667
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motherboard imma use

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To use with what? Better is only relevant to what you are using it with. RAM sticks don't work by themselves. For P5Q you need DDR2 800 if you using E8xxx cpu if you going with lower intel then DDr2 667
either the pq5 pro or
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI FTW ATX Intel Motherboard
wich type of ram should i use?
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:40 AM   #16
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Well you don't want the EVGA motherboard. Intel processors work best with Intel chipsets so my advice is to stick to the P5Q and use DDR2 800
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:51 AM   #17
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Here's one comparison...there are a few others:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...Dead,1184.html

The ATi 48xx and nVidia 2xx series cards have about double the performance of the 9800GTX


And a comparison of the cards just in the $100-$200 range:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...b200,1184.html
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:09 PM   #19
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Threads merged, please keep all questions about a build in one thread.

With the E7600, all you need is DDR2-800, even if you overclock. If you were going to overclock a E8xxx processor, then you would want DDR2-1066.

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