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Old 08-04-2009, 08:30 PM   #1
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Building first PC, 1200 dollar budget

Hey guys, total computer noob here. Seeing as how my current computer is going on 7 years old and slowly dying, I've decided that I need a new one. I was talking to my buddy who has built 4 computers of his own, and he said that buying computer parts online is the best way to go. He says he'll come over and help me build the computer once I buy all the parts. A quick google search led me to this website. Anyway, here is what I'm looking for:

*Budget: $1200 dollars minus monitor
*Building for: gaming
*Intel processor
*I'd like a good keyboard but nothing top of the line
*Operating system: I've heard terrible things about Vista, and I currently use XP. I've also heard about Windows 7 (although I'm not really sure what that is?) - I'll go with whatever you guys recommend
*Hard drive capacity: At least 500 megs


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Old 08-05-2009, 12:32 AM   #3
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Couple of comments here.
Sapphire is a bad choice even though they make great cards, if it fails after 30 days you are on your own, they have no direct consumer support and newegg will not help you after the first 30 days are up. Please read their policy.
That motherboard is very problamatic if you are going with i7 go with P6T Deluxe V2, that is the only stable board I can recommend with the X58 chipset.
For Gaming WD Black is superior than Blue.
Everything else AMG listed looks good.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:39 AM   #4
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Yeah, sorry Khalil, Im still learning and this seem like a good thread to build for, its fun anyways.
And as far as the Video card, then this should work...
HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card (Yes, I read your thread on suggested Video Cards Khalil, I just thought that the Saphire was nice because of the built in HDMI.)

*You could also add this Hard Drive without going over you budget... +$13
Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

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Old 08-05-2009, 02:13 AM   #5
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Thanks guys. I'll let this thread go for a few days before I buy the products so you guys can fine tune the selections hehe.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:09 AM   #6
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I can't recommend HIS, I have never bought any nor have I ever had to deal with their support. The cards I am certain of are Asus and Diamond, both those companies have phone support and very quick RMA service
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:15 AM   #7
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HIS is good. They have the best cooling solutions of all the Radeon manufacturers.

I would personally wait till fall if at ALL possible, for the new Intel socket and the P55 chipset. The X58 chipset is too damn expensive and unstable, and can be a real bear for an inexperienced builder. The other options are a high end socket 775 build or an AMD build. If you go 775, look at the Asus P5Q series boards and get a fast DUAL core such as a E8500. It's going to be a while yet before games can take advantage of quad cores.

If you do go with the i7 build, I'd recommend a TRIPLE channel ram kit, not a dual channel.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:52 AM   #8
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Ok, here is my new build, this is going with a fast Dual Core. Like glc said, many games don't even take advantage of multi-core processors yet.

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASUS P5QL/EPU LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

Case: NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

DVD Player/Burner: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R SATA DVD Writer LightScribe Support

Video Card: HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee THIS INCLUDES FREE WINDOWS 7 UPGRADE!

This all comes out to $894.91 before rebates and $874.91 after rebates.

*But, if you want to because this is alot less than the other build, you could upgrade your Graphics Card to a beast, something like this...
SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card (I know this is Saphire, but they only have three on Newegg atm, and this seems the best, the others were XFX and Visiontech)
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ASUS ENGTX295/2DI/1792MD3/A GeForce GTX 295 1792MB 896 (448 x 2)-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

With the Radeon it would be $1077.91(Before Rebates) and $1057.91(After) with the Geforce it would be $1207.91(Before Rebates) and $1187.91(After)

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Old 08-05-2009, 11:34 AM   #9
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Thanks AMG. I notice that some people are complaining about the GeForce overheating. Will that be a problem if I decide to go with that card?
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For comparison, I have put together a AMD build list below including a keyboard for under $1200. The Phenom II processors from AMD are comparable to the Intel Core 2 Quad series in performance and quality, the chipsets for AMD are quite stable and the AM3 socket still has upcoming processors and is more futureproof than the Intel socket 775. I would also think about going with a 32-bit operating system over a 64-bit operating system, as the 32-bit operating system has better compatibility and stability than 64-bit. 64-bit operating systems' main advantage over 32-bit is being able to fully use 4GB of ram and up, which at this point isn't that helpful for the type of computer you are looking to get.

LITE-ON DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-08 LightScribe Support - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106332
$32.99

NZXT TEMPEST Crafted Series CS-NT-TEM-B Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146047
$109.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
$74.99

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131366
$139.99

HIS H489FT1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Turbo OC Edition - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161278
$224.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006
$119.99

Logitech G15 USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126034
$74.99

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231189
$74.99

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103674
$199.99

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116674
$109.99

Subtotal: $1,162.90
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Excellent list Masaki that AMD 955 owns!!!
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:44 PM   #12
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Thanks a lot Masaki! Is that everything that I will need to build my own PC? Like I said I'm a complete computer noob so if there's anything else that I would need let me know. I'll look to order that stuff today.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:23 PM   #13
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Yes, that is everything, and even though you said a friend is going to help you, this is a good guide on building. How to Build a PC Every Step Explained This will also cover all the parts in a build so next time you know what you need.
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Thanks brother.
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On that last Intel list - get a P45 board, not a P43, and you do not need DDR2-1066 ram, all you need is DDR2-800.
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Will do.

Thanks again.
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I've ordered everything but the LITE-ON DVD Writer Black SATA iHAS424-08 because it's out of stock. How long do I have to wait until it becomes available and also is there any other place that I could buy it from for the same price?
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Thanks for the link but I don't like what I'm reading on the review section.

Cons: This burner has some type of virtual software built into the drive called "Bluebirds". Bluebirds is advertisement linked to the LG website to get you to buy more LG products. If you choose not to install the software you will be prompted to install it every time you close the drive door. If you install it you get the tray icons pointing to more LG products. If you remove it from the startup it adds itself back to the startup every time you close the drive door.

I think I'll pass hehe.
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