Upgrading to i7

[SCKiller]

I built my first PC last year with awesome help from you guys on the forums and now I'm looking to upgrade to i7 and also overclock. Hopefully i will just need a new CPU, Mobo, and RAM. This is what I'm thinking so far, but I'm not sure which RAM to get(I'd like 6gb). Also my current specs are in my sig.

Intel Core i7 920 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115202

ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131365



Thanks a bunch.

[Khalil]

Excellent choice of an i7 motherboard, that is the only one so far that have not given me a hard time. You are going to love the performance of the 920. For a while I was not recommending the i7 because of all the problems with the motherboards including Asus but the V2 fixed all that.
The 4870 is still an awesome gaming card, I don't think you need to replace it.
Are you not happy with the E8500 performance?

[SCKiller]

I'm happy with the E8500, but id like to have i7 and DDR3 just for the sake of wanting new gadgets . Also I wont actually be doing this upgrade till later in the year.

[glc]

If you are not doing it till later in the year, wait till the new socket with the P55 chipset and i3/i5 and redone i7 is out.

[SCKiller]

Ok will do. What avantages does the P55 have over
X58? Also will the i3 CPUs be comparable to the lower end i7?.

[Khalil]

As far as I know, the X58 is not getting cancelled as rumors had it, it will remain the flagship of Intel chipsets.
The new P55 is a lower class chipset replacing the P45 for cheaper systems, I get daily emails from Intel, I have not seen anything yet about replacing the X58, unless I missed it.
They are doing away with the i7 920 and 940, the lowest will be the 950 for a while but that is going to be retired as well, I know there is a 965 out there, I have yet to build a system with it and 975 which I have built 3 systems with so far.
I don't know if the new P55 i5 processors will be as powerful as even the i7 920, we will have to wait and see.

[SCKiller]

Thanks for the info. So will the other i7 processors come down in price at all?

[Khalil]

Originally Posted by SCKiller Thanks for the info. So will the other i7 processors come down in price at all?

I don't think they will by much. If you look at the LGA771 Extreme processors they did not go down much at all from the time they were released.

[schvidah]

Originally Posted by Khalil I don't think they will by much. If you look at the LGA771 Extreme processors they did not go down much at all from the time they were released.

Would you recommend the new i7-860 chip, or the current i7-920, and why?

There is a chart at the following link with all the info on the new chips being released in September.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/21/i...bringing-core/

[Khalil]

That chart is news to me but I will look into it. The last email regarding the i7 from Intel is what I stated above. Looks like things changed yet again if things are accurate on that page you linked.
I know nothing of the i7-860, never heard of it till now, sorry!!!
I know this, if Intel cancells the LGA1366 socket, it is going to piss of alot of people who paid a ton of money this last year and now they are stuck with a dead end very expensive system.
That would be a very bad call on Intel's part.

EDIT: Directly from Intel's website

Desktops powered by the Intel Core i7 processor are already being offered.

http://www.intel.com/consumer/brand.htm
There is no mention of a changed i7

[SCKiller]

According to the comments below the chart the 1156 chips wont support triple channel .

[glc]

Correct. The i7 8xx chips will be the same as the 9xx, except dual instead of triple channel. They will be quad hyperthreaded cores. The i5 is simply an i7 without hyperthreading. The memory thing should not be a performance issue, even dual channel is more than enough bandwidth from what I understand, unless you are a major overclocker. Release is supposed to be early September, at that time there will be legal benchmarks available to help you make a decision.

[SCKiller]

Ok thanks.

[Masaki 7-11]

From what I've read, all Intel processors will be badged or rebadged as Core i3, i5 or i7 based on performance (and cost), so you could have a Core 2 Quad rebadged as a Core i5. The 8xx series of i7 is going to be only for LGA1156 since it only supports dual channel and will priced similarly to the LGA1366 i7s. The 6 core variants of Core i7 will only come out for LGA1366 originally and won't make it to LGA1156 for a half year to a year (the current motherboards may or may not be able to handle the 6 core versions).

If looking to get a LGA1156 processor/motherboard, make sure to read through lots of reviews as the same stability problems with the X58 chipset may happen with the P55 chipset.

[glc]

The 6 core will be the i9 and won't be out till next spring.

[schvidah]

Ok, here are the specs I could find for the i7-920 vs the i7-860

New i7-860
2.8GHZ, 8MB L3, 4 Cores 8 Threads, DDR3 1333/1066, 3.46GHZ turbo boost, 95W, LGA1156 Socket, about $284.00

Current I7-920
2.66GHZ, 8MB L3, 4 Cores ?? Threads, DDR3 800/1066, 130W, LGA1366 Socket, about $279.00

My question is that I do not know that much about what the different things do that make one chip better or worse. I am going to build my computer, which chip is better? I do not plan on overclocking at all. Which would you recommend? From what I can tell, the 860 is better.

[vtfanmv5]

920 is 8 threads.

Where are you getting this stuff?

[schvidah]

Originally Posted by vtfanmv5 920 is 8 threads. Where are you getting this stuff?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/21/i...bringing-core/

[glc]

As I said, wait till the benchmark embargo is lifted.