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10-18-2009, 06:02 PM
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First Build in about 10 years
I have built about 5 PC about 10 years ago, I am goin to build 2 now, 1 for personal use and 1 for Father-in-law. He is currently into race car sims, but spends a lot of time with flight sim. I am looking to build on a budget but allow for expanision later. I am think that my choice of motherboard will allow me to replace the cpu later down the road for a lot less money and same for ram when you can get 4 gb chips. This is what I thinkin any ideas?
What is a bare drive and what will I need to purchase ? LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 $57.98 ($28.99 each) Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EADS 1.5TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $219.98 ($109.99 each) ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail $319.98 ($159.99 each) ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $239.98 ($119.99 each) XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail -$2.00 Sale $279.98 $275.98 ($137.99 each) G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBPK - Retail $159.98 ($79.99 each) AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX245OCGQBOX - Retail $132.00 ($66.00 each) Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail ANY CABLES OR STUFF I NEED TO GET? |
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10-18-2009, 06:09 PM
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OS is going to be
Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64 NFR CD 47.00 each |
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10-18-2009, 08:15 PM
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That looks like an excellent build, should work fine, you could probably get the Antec Earthwatts 650w psu for a little cheaper, both are great. I would think that the AM3 socket should still last a while so there should be good upgradability for the CPU. Also, even though it would be more, I think that its worth waiting until october 22nd and get Windows 7.
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10-18-2009, 08:30 PM
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I was just looking at the SATA cables, anything I should be looking for?
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10-18-2009, 08:34 PM
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I am getting the Case and Power supply for 150 as a combo
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10-18-2009, 08:48 PM
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Looks good; the motherboard should come with the necessary SATA cables. A bare drive is just the drive; it doesn't come in a retail box and doesn't come with any accessories (like software disc or cables). You may have some trouble finding drivers for windows XP 64-bit; I recommend you take a look at the various vendor sites (mainly for the motherboard and video card) to make sure that you can find appropriate drivers, if you can't find drivers, you can take a look at 32-bit XP, or perhaps Vista (or windows 7).
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10-19-2009, 04:03 AM
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XP 64 is not a gaming operating system.
NFR stands for "not for resale" and is NOT supposed to be sold to the general public. |
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10-19-2009, 08:13 AM
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so the first question is if it is not for sale, then how are they selling it?
But the more important question is, how will it work with games, at this point I do not want to invest in windows7, isn't there always major problems when microshaft releases new OS for like the first year? |
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10-19-2009, 09:02 AM
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XP 64 does not work well with games, driver support has always been pretty poor. I would only use it on a system that's oriented towards business rather than multimedia. Windows 7 is the first M$ OS release in a LONG time that looks like it's going to be decent right out of the box. If you want XP, use 32 bit, it will effectively use about 3.25 gigs of your 4 gigs of memory.
NFR software is supposed to be for sale only to IT professionals for evaluation. It is not intended or licensed to be used as a production operating system. As you can see, that's not stopping vendors from selling it to anyone, but they are not supposed to do it. That's why $139 software is selling for $47. You can get totally legal 32 bit XP Home for about $90. |
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10-19-2009, 11:44 AM
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Windows 7 has been beta testing since 2006 - they called it Windows Vista. I'd go with 7.
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10-19-2009, 07:54 PM
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ok after looking at the Budget I realized that I was totaly pushing it well beyond the original 400 to 500, So at about 700 I have:
CASE Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail PSU Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.265977 MoBO ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131402 CPU AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103687 HDD Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EADS 1.5TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136351 RAM G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBPK - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231188 OPTICAL LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106289 VIDEO CARD GIGABYTE GV-N84S-512I GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125289 OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754 I am not sure about the video card, so I am looking for the best I can get for about 35.00 And I am also not positive if that is the win7 I want But the $10.00 off ends 10/20 |
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10-20-2009, 01:43 AM
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Can you squeeze another $15 out for a video card - Radeon HD 4650?
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10-20-2009, 08:33 AM
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And go with an Asus video card, best warranty, best support!
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10-20-2009, 08:39 AM
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ASUS EAH4650/DI/1GD2/A(LP) Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121340 after a little research I found this at $64.99 with 20.00 rebate abd free shipping so it ups my cost by less than 10.00 in the end |
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10-20-2009, 08:47 AM
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Also found a case with free 550 watt power, going to save 100 bucks here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146058 |
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10-20-2009, 08:59 AM
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what power supply is coming free? Ok hold up, Logisys is Garbage, power supply refuse. The power supply is the most important component in a PC.
You need to look at Sea Sonic, FSP, Antec or Corsair Last edited by Khalil; 10-20-2009 at 09:08 AM. |
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10-20-2009, 11:48 AM
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ok we have change a few things, I found case and 500 psu combo with 1.5 tb HD 180 plu shipping
Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129024 SAMSUNG EcoGreen F2 HD154UI 1.5TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152175 Any thoughts out there? |
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10-20-2009, 12:58 PM
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I don't trust Samsung hard drives. They very well may be reliable these days but they sure weren't several years ago.
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10-20-2009, 01:21 PM
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No George they are still unreliable as ever. WD is the best or if you gotta go cheap a Hitachi but they are loud.
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10-20-2009, 01:27 PM
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Also, the 1.5 GB Seagates don't have the firmware issues that killed the 1 TB and under last year.
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10-21-2009, 09:07 AM
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That is a massive drive do you think casual gamming and pictures will fill a 1.5 T drive? Well really up to you. If you are video editing and stuff maybe any way I have this one waiting to put in my new build;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319 It was on sale for 64.99 but it is a 640GB Make sure to sign up for the e-promotions on new egg you will get sent an e-mail promo every week and they have hard drives pretty regular on sale w/ free shipping  Good luck happy shopping
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10-21-2009, 11:13 AM
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honestly, 1.5 tb i big, i was planning on 1 tb, but for a little more why not, as of this morning WD 1.5 TB was 99.00 free shipping, and things are only getting bigger.
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10-24-2009, 09:34 AM
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flat screen
any recommendations about monitors? I want something with HDMI, so I can play PS3 as well
I found this for 150 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009175 Acer X213Hbid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000:1 (ACM) - Retail Last edited by bcrobbin; 10-24-2009 at 09:39 AM. |
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10-24-2009, 09:44 AM
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Acers are decent budget monitors.
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