My Future new build

[jwc204]

I am currently trying a new build and well I just dont know all the thing to look for. So here goes I went on Newegg and put this list together.

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item#:N82E16813128392

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor
Item#:N82E16819103649

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1333C9 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145220

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129021

hec X-Power Pro 600 600W Continuous @ 40°C ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817339025

ASUS EN9500GT/DI/1GD2/V2/A GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814121339

I currently have a new WD 500G HDD, DVD player and a 22 in Monitor.

I plan on using this for games and broadband internet. Does it look allright and have I forgotten anything.

All parts listed above are at Newegg

Thanks

[mazz72]

That motherboard doesn't support DDR3.

This one does:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128392

[jwc204]

Your right and its cheaper, updated my list using that one
Thanks

[glc]

AMD's do not support triple channel ram - just dual channel.

That is not a quality power supply, and that video card is not a strong gamer.

[12twelve12]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-064-_-Product - The case you want with a Antec 650w PSU for just $60 more. You never want to cut corners on your power supply unit.


GPU: for around the same price as the 9500 you listed you can get a ATI HD 4670 which outperforms the 9500. Here is a comparison between those two http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...GT/Page-4.html

[jwc204]

ok Im lost, why is the MB listed if it is not supported. newegg lists 3ch ram with amd processors

[Masaki 7-11]

Originally Posted by jwc204 ok Im lost, why is the MB listed if it is not supported. newegg lists 3ch ram with amd processors

What do you mean by ram listed with AMD processors? I haven't seen any combo deals of AMD processors or motherboard with 3ch ram. Also you can use 3ch ram on AMD motherboards; only problem is they will only run in single channel.

[glc]

What we are suggesting is you use one or two kits of dual channel ram.

[jwc204]

I checked out Newegg and did find bundle deals as far as AMD processors with MB that use DDR3. This one I listed and found others:

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Original Price: $233.99

However I came here because I respected this sites experts. Can you suggest a processor and motherboard for what Im after. Around 100 each

Thanks

[Masaki 7-11]

Originally Posted by jwc204 I checked out Newegg and did find bundle deals as far as AMD processors with MB that use DDR3. This one I listed and found others: AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Original Price: $233.99 However I came here because I respected this sites experts. Can you suggest a processor and motherboard for what Im after. Around 100 each Thanks

In my post above I said I haven't found any combo deals of either an AMD motherboard with a 3ch ram kit or a AMD processor with a 3ch ram kit, so there isn't any listings on newegg which suggest that you get a 3ch ram kit if you go with an AMD processor.

Here is a good parts list for motherboard, processor, video card, PSU and ram for what you are looking for and in the same price range as what you listed:


ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131603
$84.99

HIS H465FS512H Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161303
$51.99

Rosewill Green Series RG430-S12 430W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182202
$39.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231275
$69.99

AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model ADX630WFGIBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103704
$112.99

Subtotal: $359.95

[jwc204]

Ok thanks for all the help and below is my Revamped list, any and all comments will be appreciated.


Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply
Item #: N82E16811129064

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131603

HIS H467QS1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161287

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231275

AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model ADX630WFGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103704

[Masaki 7-11]

Originally Posted by jwc204 Ok thanks for all the help and below is my Revamped list, any and all comments will be appreciated. Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply Item #: N82E16811129064 ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Item #: N82E16813131603 HIS H467QS1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail Item #: N82E16814161287 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail Item #: N82E16820231275 AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model ADX630WFGIBOX - Retail Item #: N82E16819103704

Looks good, you won't need 650W for your build, but the Antec PSU is of very good quality and will give you lots of room if you want to upgrade later.

[jwc204]

Cool, thanks for all your help

[jwc204]

Well I guess Newegg sold out of a few things, the memory and the video card are no longer available. I am thinking of going with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231193

Since I dont know what to look for in a video card. I was thinking about 1G DDR3\
for around $100. Thats not to funny is it. I do play newer games and dont want the jerking picture. Any inputs will be appreciated

[Extremerc12]

I think you should be fine running something along these lines.

EVGA 240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130530

Asus 240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121353

As you already know, for $100 your getting a budget card, but obviously you want to get the most for that $100.

[jwc204]

Originally Posted by Extremerc12 I think you should be fine running something along these lines. EVGA 240 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130530 Asus 240 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121353 As you already know, for $100 your getting a budget card, but obviously you want to get the most for that $100.

I see the difference in memory type and size. What difference in play would I notice.
and how much do I need to spend to get a quality card to play all of todays games and a while in the future
Thanks

[jwc204]

Ok This is what I have come up with, with your guys help. I just need this final check before I purchase it.

Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129064

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131603

ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121353

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231303

AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103704

Subtotal: $545.94

[jwc204]

Originally Posted by jwc204 Ok This is what I have come up with, with your guys help. I just need this final check before I purchase it. Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129064 ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131603 ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121353 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231303 AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103704 Subtotal: $545.94

Ok I got the parts and put it together today. It runs fine however when playing Oblivion on any setting the camera is real jerky when moving around. Any Idea what could be causing this.

[theyosh]

Are you using up to date drivers for your video card? If not you can download the latest drivers on Nvidia's web site. Make sure you completely uninstall your old drivers and restart your computer before you install the new drivers. In fact it is highly recommended that you use a program to completely eliminate any traces of the old driver before installing the new one.

theyosh

[glc]

Did you install all the motherboard drivers from the Asus support disk?

[Masaki 7-11]

What settings are you running the game at? The GT240 is a decent video card but you won't be able to play the game at very high settings and use AA/AF.

[jwc204]

I have installed all drivers for the mother board and the video card, went to nvidia site and it said i had the most uptodate drivers for my card. I have tried all the video settings on Oblivion and the only one that seems smooth is Very Low.

[Masaki 7-11]

Originally Posted by jwc204 I have installed all drivers for the mother board and the video card, went to nvidia site and it said i had the most uptodate drivers for my card. I have tried all the video settings on Oblivion and the only one that seems smooth is Very Low.

Have you patched up the game? Also see if you can run 3DMark06, if you get a low or very low score it may indicate a defective graphics card as you should be able to run Oblivion at medium settings with the GT240 and no lag.

[jwc204]

Originally Posted by Masaki 7-11 Have you patched up the game? Also see if you can run 3DMark06, if you get a low or very low score it may indicate a defective graphics card as you should be able to run Oblivion at medium settings with the GT240 and no lag.

Yes the game was patched. This same version played fine on my other computer. I checked a few other games and the graphics look great. Its just in Oblivion in the combat scenes. I'm beginning to wonder if this graphic card can process that fast.

[Masaki 7-11]

Can you post which settings you are using for the game (including the advanced settings)?

[jwc204]

Resolution- 640 x 480
Antialiasing- None
Mode- Full screen and V sync
Screen effects- None
Distant Renderind- None
Video Quality Presets - Low

During action it skips

[jwc204]

After loading Windows 7 64 bit and getting newest updates from EVGA site all lagging issues seem to be resolved