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01-29-2010, 10:55 PM
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Non-Gaming Build $600 or less
I built my own computer In August of 2007, and it worked out great. Now the time has come for me to build one for my brother. He's not much of a gamer. He does a lot of web surfing, video streaming, downloading, and burning dvds and cds. I'd like to build him a computer that is as fast as the one I built in 2007 or better.
The computer I built in 2007 had an ASUS P5K MB/Intel C2D E6750@2.66G/2x1GB cosairDDR800XMS/Seagate 320GB/cosair 520 modular psu/evga 8600GT/cooler master case, etc. Below is my preliminary parts list. Any suggestions on upgrades, downgrades, or alternatives would be much appreciated. Also what would be good choices for affordable monitors and 2.1 speaker systems. Thanks a lot guys!! Case & Power Supply: Antec NSK 4482B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail 79.99/9.99 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-072-_-Product Motherboard: ASUS P5KPL-CM 54.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131288 CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz 109.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115056 Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) 92.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 69.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 Graphics card: ASUS EAH4350 SILENT/DI/512MD2(LP) Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 $36.99/free shipping/15.00 rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121310 Optical Drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM 29.99/free shiping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 104.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754 Comes to about $590 shipped Last edited by phil32; 01-29-2010 at 11:45 PM. |
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01-29-2010, 11:14 PM
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Perfect, I wouldn't change a thing.
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01-29-2010, 11:52 PM
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You know that 4350 isn't much better than the onboard video? If this will NOT be a gaming machine, spend a bit more on the mobo and get a P5QPL-VM and forego a video card - for now.
The ram is too fast for that processor - change it to DDR2-800. |
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01-30-2010, 12:30 AM
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Thanks for the advice. How's this revised list, for a non-gamer:
Case & Power Supply: Antec NSK 4482B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail 79.99/9.99 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129072 Motherboard: ASUS P5QPL-VM EPU LGA 775 Intel G41 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 74.99/2.99 shippimg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131387 CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz 109.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115056 Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail 85.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 69.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 Graphics card: onboard Optical Drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM 29.99/free shiping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 104.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754 Comes to about $569 shipped Last edited by phil32; 01-30-2010 at 12:46 AM. |
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01-30-2010, 10:17 AM
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Excellent. If needed later, you have a video card slot and a power supply that can handle a lower end card. If you want more headroom, you can toss another 35 bucks into the build and get the Sonata case with the 500 watt power supply.
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01-30-2010, 02:19 PM
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Even though you are not gaming I highly recommend using a video card, onboard video sucks with windows 7 regardless of how much RAM you get, I would get a lower CPU and add a Video card.
Instead of the E7500 I recommend going with an E5400 and adding this to your shopping cart Asus 4550 You will be around the same budget and have a much better performing machine for windows 7 
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01-30-2010, 10:24 PM
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I have to disagree. I've run Windows 7 on an older Asus board with a 945G chipset and it was acceptable, it even ran Aero. Try it without first, you can add a card at any time.
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01-31-2010, 08:02 AM
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01-31-2010, 09:56 AM
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I hate to disagree, the E7400 without a video card will not match the overall performance of the E5400 combined with the video card. Yes if he adds the video card to to the E7400 later it would be better than the E5400 but I am giving the guy advice on the best performance he can get with 7 on the budget he has now.
I have tested this in our workshop when I had a few complaints with 7, we were not including video cards with the base machines, I had built a few with E8200s and no video cards and they had issues when multiple applications were running and video was demanded. Every new 7 machine we sell now has a video card in it and everyone is happy. Last edited by Khalil; 01-31-2010 at 10:01 AM. |
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01-31-2010, 10:29 AM
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01-31-2010, 05:59 PM
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01-31-2010, 09:08 PM
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No, you can run it faster, but running it 1:2 (if even possible) is a waste and can be unstable. DDR2-800 with a 1333 FSB processor is proven stable on P/G31 and newer chipsets.
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02-01-2010, 11:57 AM
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Thanks for all the input. I have two weeks until I actually order the parts, Here's what I'm leaning towards if I ordered today.
Case & Power Supply: Antec NSK 4482B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail 79.99/9.99 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129072 Motherboard: ASUS P5KPL-CM 59.99/7.56 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131288 CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz 109.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115056 Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail 85.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122 Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 69.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 Graphics Card: ASUS EAH4550/DI/512MD3 LP Radeon HD 4550 512MB 64-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail - 44.99/5.99 Shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121306 Optical Drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM 29.99/free shiping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 104.99/free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754 Total Price: $605 shipped. |
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02-01-2010, 11:00 PM
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Maybe I'm over thinking it, but what if I went with a more modern build for about $60 more? How much faster would it be? Would it even be worth it? Here's a list I came up with for $663 - shipped.
CASE & PSU: Antec NSK 4482B Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail 79.99/9.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129072 MB: ASUS P7H55-M PRO LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - 89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131623 CPU: Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - Retail - 124.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115222 MEMORY: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail 104.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231193 HARD DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - 69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320 VIDEO CARD: ASUS EAH4550/DI/512MD3 LP Radeon HD 4550 512MB 64-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card - Retail 44.99/5.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121306 OPTICAL DRIVE: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM - 25.99/1.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - 104.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116754 |
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02-02-2010, 11:47 AM
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I wouldn't build a H55 and then put a video card into it. I'd use P55 and a i5 or use the H55/Clarkdale onboard video.
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02-02-2010, 03:13 PM
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One other question, if I may. Would an AMD build be worth looking into for less cash? If so what would be a good parts list?
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02-02-2010, 03:55 PM
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AMD build suggestion.
Motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131368 cpu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103706 memory : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 That 380 watt case/power supply worries me consider this one for another $20 whether you go with AMD or Intel : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-024-_-Product The other parts are just fine.
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02-02-2010, 04:20 PM
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AMD is always a great option for less money,what Pam recomended would make you a solid computer that will last you years to come.
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02-12-2010, 08:51 PM
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Now that I've had time to think about it, and and after exploring my options, I have come up with my final list. This list Is based on value and quality as well as available stock. Parts will be ordered tomorrow with both zipzoomfly and newegg. Zip Zoom fly has some nice deals right now if you're willing to wait for a Visa debit card rebate. I would have ordered all with newegg, but hey, that extra dough might buy beer or something. I cheaped out a bit, on the motherboard and video card but I think it was probably overkill to get an ASUS board when I can get a GIGABYTE for $50. The video card is re-certified but has excelllent reviews and is cheap. Any final thoughts before I order would be appreciated, and thanks again.
CASE: COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP - $50 ($40 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119161 POWER SUPPLY: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371034 EXTRA FRONT CASE FAN: LOGISYS Computer CF120BL 120mm BLUE 4 LED LED Case Fan - Retail $8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999479 MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE GA-G31M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $53 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128357 CPU: INTEL E7500 Core 2 Duo 2.93 GHz 1066 MHz Socket 775 3MB Desktop Processor - $116 ($101 after rebate) http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...dlist=celebros MEMORY: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail - $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122 HARD DRIVE: WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB SATA II 7200 RPM 32MB Buffer Hard Drive Bulk - $70 ($55 after Rebate) http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10010083 Video Card: Recertified: MSI 81690906714 GeForce 9500 GT 512MB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - $36.00 ($31 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127469 DVD BURNER: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM - $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 OS: MICROSOFT GFC-00599 Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Software OEM - $100 ($90 after rebate) http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10011180 TOTAL COST W/ SHIPPING: $605 ($550 after rebate) Last edited by phil32; 02-12-2010 at 09:05 PM. |
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Not Buy a recertified video card. Stick with the 4550. Do Not Cheap out on the motherboard. Newegg has the corporate stable P5KPL-CM back in stock. ASUS P5KPL-CM LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131288 |
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