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03-02-2010, 05:44 PM
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Upgrade Question
I have an AMD 5600+ cpu in my gamming rig. I have found a q6600 for sale for $150. He overclocked it to 3.2 for the past 3 years and was using water to cool it. Good buy, or no thanks? I was hoping to do a budget upgrade.
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03-02-2010, 05:53 PM
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Are you planning on upgrading your motherboard and RAM too? Your current chip is AMD, while the processor you are wanting to upgrade to in an Intel.
Along with that, overclocking is not for the "faint at heart." If you are planning to do so, which I am no recommending, you are going to want to buy high quality parts all around for your system, which you would want to start with a PSU. Last edited by mjkovis; 03-02-2010 at 06:05 PM. |
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03-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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I would NEVER buy a used processor that has been overclocked. It's like buying a used car that's been used on the race track........
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03-02-2010, 06:38 PM
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Oh, my eyes were playing tricks on me (meaning I need to read closer)... Didn't realize that you were WANTING to buy a USED processor. I thought you meant you knew someone who had OC'd the same processor and were planning on purchasing one.
In this case, I have to agree 110% by saying no. GLC's analogy is very precise. If you are planning on a budget upgrade, why not put out a budget and see what it COULD get you? |
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03-02-2010, 06:39 PM
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My current rig;
AMD 5600+ Asus M2N32SLI Delux 2- 320 gb seagate HD 4 GB Corsair DDR2 800 PC P&C 750 silencer quad psu I was looking to buy a new mobo and the cpu and swap out everything else. Thanks for the advice! Thats what I was looking for. Thanks! Last edited by Windu; 03-02-2010 at 10:28 PM. |
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03-02-2010, 06:57 PM
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I think this would be a good start.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115131 Or maybe this for a few bucks less http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115207 Any suggestions on a mobo? Thanks again! |
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03-03-2010, 12:04 AM
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What is the proposed budget for this upgrade?
Any preference between AMD or Intel? You said it was a gaming rig, but did not list your video card in the specs. What graphics card are you using? |
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03-03-2010, 02:34 AM
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I have an 8800 GTS 640 I was thinking about keeping it under or close to $300. I kinda was wanting to try an intel chip this time, but I am open to either. I also do some video encoding of game film during football season. Thats 1 reason I was thinking quad core. I want to use as much of the existing hardware as I can. So nothing with DDR3 please. As for gaming, I am not sure if the 8800 I have is still a good card. Maybe need to upgrade that down the line too? I mainly play COD WAW, L4D/L4D2 and Crysis. I have been thinking about getting Battlefield 2 as well. It does ok in current configuration averaging anywhere from 35 to 100 fps in cod waw at max resoultion with all the eye candy on. Playes Crysis nicely on the medium settings. Maybe a better cpu would help this out? Thanks again! Last edited by Windu; 03-03-2010 at 02:52 AM. |
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03-03-2010, 08:59 AM
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I have a hard time recommending any Intel socket 775 quad cores less than a Q9550. That and a decent motherboard is going to cost you close to $400. For not much more than that you can get an i5-750, motherboard, and 4 gigs of DDR3.
My board of choice in socket 775 is an Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, a P5Q SE Plus is decent too. |
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03-03-2010, 11:55 AM
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socket 775 build
CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115041 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131377 total = $390 socket 1156 build Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131404 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115215 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145263 total = $445 You would get a huge upgrade in performance if you go with the 1156 build in lieu of the 775, and its only $55 more(newer technology = increase performance). I know you said you wanted it under $300, but save up a bit and go for what you decide is best, after all ultimately it's up to you. I use an 8800gt 512mb and it works fine for now. I play a lot of the newer games Dragon Age/Mass Effect 2/Crysis Warhead ect. and can still play on highest settings. Just have to turn AA down or off if you experience lag. I think i would upgrade graphics in a year or two. GPU is the biggest factor in determining game performance. |
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03-03-2010, 01:07 PM
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On the i5 build, I'd spend a bit more for the P7P55D-E to get SATA 6 and USB 3, look at it as futureproofing.
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03-03-2010, 09:02 PM
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Thanks for the advice!
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03-04-2010, 11:43 AM
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How is the i5 cpu and mobo for ease of putting it together? I know some of the newer stuff can have some issues of not wanting to work together? I remember when I was puting my AMD rig together there were new intel mobo's that were coming out that some people advised to stay away from because they were so new.
Thanks. |
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03-04-2010, 12:03 PM
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Those particular boards go together very easily. The only things to watch out for are proper heatsink mounting and make sure the ram is on the QVL.
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03-04-2010, 08:41 PM
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I was reading some reviews of the Asus P7P55D-E and they were saying that when you enable the sata 6gb or usb 3 that the pci-e 16x bandwith gets cut in half. They were also saying that this is not an issue with the pro version of the mobo. Any suggestions on that? Is this really an issue I should be worried about?
Last edited by Windu; 03-04-2010 at 09:20 PM. |
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03-12-2010, 12:04 PM
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Ok, I might not be able to do the cpu upgrade that I wanted to do now. But I might be able to do a gpu. I have the asus m2n32sli delux mobo with the 590 nvidia chip set. Would there be any problems using an ati card?
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03-12-2010, 02:16 PM
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Nope. PCI-E is PCI-E.
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03-30-2010, 02:20 PM
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The cpu upgrade is on hold for now. My video card is going out. i am looking for a new card and looking for suggestions. I have had Nvidia cards for years, would I like the stuff from ATI? I have heard their drivers are glitchy. Does the 2 year warranty matter or should I find one that has a life time warranty? Are there any nvida cards that are a great bang for buck? what would be the ATI equal? Not sure what to buy, just looking for suggestions.
I have a PC Power & Cooling 750 Silencer quad psu, so running a large single card should not be an issue. Thanks! |
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03-30-2010, 03:22 PM
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What is your budget for the video card?
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03-30-2010, 03:47 PM
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I paid $400 for my 8800 GTS 640 and I will not spend that much again unless it is the top of the line card. I guess I would like to be some where around $200 - $300(card alone). I have thought about a 5850 which is at the top of that budget. Just not sure about things listed in previous post. I am also looking into a new case. Cooler Master 690 II Advanced.
Thanks! Last edited by Windu; 03-30-2010 at 06:16 PM. |
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03-30-2010, 09:02 PM
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Sorry this is probably not going to be the most popluar reply but did you consider keeping what you have (unless the systrem is broken) and getting a 5850 video card? That Athlon 5600 is not dead yet by any means and an i5 will not make enough of a difference to your gaming experience to justify the expense in my opinion.
My daughter's computer has an Athlon 5400 with an ATI 5830 and she is chewing right through AION, Sims 3, WOW and other games with settings close to max. You can always spend more money on a new motherboard and CPU later if you are not happy with the results.
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03-30-2010, 09:24 PM
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The two cases I am lookin at, LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112239 COOLER MASTER CM690 II http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119216 Leaning towards the cooler master. Thanks. Last edited by Windu; 03-30-2010 at 09:45 PM. |
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03-30-2010, 09:44 PM
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There hasn't been any driver issues since the 4xxx and 5xxx series. AMD now owns ATI as you are probably aware and quality control is pretty much top notch compared to the earlier years when we used to have a lot of issues with ATI drivers. The 5000 series drivers are very stable.
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03-30-2010, 09:48 PM
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Only 5 brands to choose from. Not sure what is a good one. What about the 2 year warranty? Do you need longer?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rchInDesc=5850 Are the 4xxx series cards a option? I'm assumeing that nvidia cards are not that great for bang for buck. Last edited by Windu; 03-30-2010 at 09:52 PM. |
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03-30-2010, 09:55 PM
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That is the big problem right now, I only recommend Asus and Diamond, glc also likes HIS, I like Sapphire a lot too but I am a reseller and they give me support, they do not offer direct consumer support. I would go with the Sapphire if you must have it now.
I am very impressed with the 5830 as well it is about 60 cheaper but the performance on it is off the charts for the price, the 5830 is available from both Asus and HIS. |
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03-30-2010, 10:00 PM
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Tiger Direct had a Diamond, just have never bought there before. Kinda wanted to stick with newegg.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...081&CatId=3669 I can wait a few more days. My 8800 has not craped out yet. I wonder if the GTX4xx will bring down the price of the ATI cards. |
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03-30-2010, 10:06 PM
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You can buy from Tigerdirect when it comes to high quality components, you will be fine because Diamond will back you up no matter where you buy it at. We don't recommend Tiger in general because a lot of the stuff they carry is really low quality like their own brand Ultra!
Historically ATI always drops their price when Nvidia releases a new product, they will do that like AMD does with Intel, they always have to be cheaper in comparission. I have no doubts the new GTX4xx will be super but expect they will be very expensive when they are released. |
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03-30-2010, 10:12 PM
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Ok. I can wait a week or so, just to see what newegg gets in. I was mainly looking for some suggestions for what way to go, ATI/Nvidia. Thanks Khalil for all the help. Any thoughts on a case?
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03-30-2010, 10:31 PM
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I have an Antec 900, not a big fan of it. Cable management is bad, I hate the cages, makes adding or taking out a hd a very big process.
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