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03-29-2010, 10:17 AM
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Been out of the loop for a while - Need advice
Well the old PC is getting a bit long in the tooth. I have read a bunch of post here and it seems to be a very good site for real advice on a new PC build. My old PC is usually filtered down for other duties (music server, software testing, 24/7 eMule, ect.).
I do NOT do games, my main focus is on video editing (Premiere), audio (Soundforge), web site development, DVD production. Everyone does web browsing but that takes very little power to do. I will build a PC about once every 4 or 5 years - so things have changed a lot since I did my last build. I will be most concerned with the CPU, Motherboard, Memory, & Video. Cases, drives, monitors are not a problem. I am so comfortable with XP but may take the jump to Win7 (maybe 64). The budget is open but not endless, like everyone I want the best bang for the buck. The latest & greatest is always overpriced. Intel CPU only please. Thanks |
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03-29-2010, 10:55 AM
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Bang for buck =Core i5-750
I'd definitely go for Win 7 64 bit (Home Premium would probably work) just to have the ability to go up to 16Gb RAM. XP's 3.25 GB is a little limiting in this day and age. 2 hard drives - one for OS, one for data store (WD Caviar Black series) Last edited by orbrit; 03-29-2010 at 10:58 AM. |
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03-29-2010, 11:07 AM
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My old PC has a Raptor X & Raid 0. May go with SSD for main drive & do Raid for storage. I use two NAS units for storage of large files.
I was looking at the I5-750 & I7-860. But will see what everyone suggest. |
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03-29-2010, 12:56 PM
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If you use software that can take advantage of quad cores AND hyperthreading, the i7-860 screams.
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03-30-2010, 11:18 AM
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Been reading more post here (mainly by glc). Here is what I am looking at getting:
Main Drive: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard CPU: i7-860 Memory: Unknown Storage: 2 setup in raid0 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive OS: Windows 7 (64) Case: Might reuse old CoolerMaster Centurion SILVERSTONE RAVEN RV02-BW Matte black 0.8mm Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case Video: Since I don't do games - ? Power Supply: Always Corsair - 550w to 650w Correction, additions, or suggestions welcome. |
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03-30-2010, 11:56 AM
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Why on earth would you use RAID 0 for storage? One drive goes down and you're screwed... unless you're religious about backups.
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03-30-2010, 12:00 PM
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Why do you want to use RAID 0 for storage? If you want 2 TB of storage, buy a 2 TB drive. Remember, if one drive hiccups in a RAID 0, you lose everything.
If you don't game, I'd look at an entry-level workstation graphics card (ATI Fire, Nvidia Quadro). For memory, get two 2x2gb dual channel kits - either DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600, highly recommended you make sure it's on the Asus QVL. Don't forget a SATA DVD burner or two - LG, Lite-On, Asus, or Sony. |
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03-30-2010, 12:08 PM
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How many monitors do you use?
ASUS QVL for P7P55D-E http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...P55D-E-QVL.zip |
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03-30-2010, 12:23 PM
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"Why do you want to use RAID 0 for storage?" -
I guess old habits die hard, My existing PC uses a RAID0 to store the video I am working on - Then transferred to NAS when finished. At the time it was cheaper to do raid than buy large single drive since the video files are huge. Might do a mirror for added piece of mind. Times have changed. "Don't forget a SATA DVD burner or two - LG, Lite-On, Asus, or Sony." Will use existing DVD Plexor Blu-ray Drive Video - I was looking at fanless ATI cards (doesn't need to be much. Memory - Will check out G.Skill & OCZ (my preferred brands). Thanks for input! |
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03-30-2010, 12:37 PM
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This card would work if you only need 1 DVI monitor and it has HDMI output.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-817-_-Product |
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03-30-2010, 12:53 PM
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I'd probably get something a little stronger than a 4350. The 64 bit memory bus is pretty constricting. Check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161305 |
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03-31-2010, 09:29 AM
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I went to the ASUS site to look at the ASUS P7P55D-E LGA motherboards - There are a bunch of versions of the P7P55D.
May I ask why you recommend the P7P55D-E over the other versions? I tried to do a compair but as always the Asus site is slow & does't seem to load everything. TIA |
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03-31-2010, 10:46 AM
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Compare them on Newegg's site. I usually recommend the -E because it has SATA 6.0 and USB 3.0, and it's at a very nice price point.
See what this gets you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc= |
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03-31-2010, 10:49 AM
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How does this look?
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ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX CPU Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 MEMORY G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL POWER SUPPLY CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V OS DRIVE Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) STORAGE DRIVE Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb VIDEO HIS H465PS1GH Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 A wad of money but I only do this once every 5 years. Anyone have any suggestions on better items? TIA |
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03-31-2010, 11:15 AM
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Is four gigs of RAM going to be good enough for video editing?
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03-31-2010, 11:54 AM
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Kind of figured adding another pair later would be no problem. After next retirement check.
Other than the memory how does the other items look? Any holes or bottlenecks? TIA Last edited by The_Tango; 03-31-2010 at 02:26 PM. |
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04-03-2010, 09:45 AM
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So does everything look like it will work together & be a fairly strong PC?
Since I live in TN - Newegg tax takes a hit, but it is a pain getting one item here or there & the shipping on individual usually chancels out any savings. |
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04-03-2010, 11:05 AM
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What you could do is search for those exact items on amazon.com and compare the after tax and shipping prices.
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04-09-2010, 01:30 PM
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The only thing I don't like about is that the stuff comes from all over the place.
But I have been rethinking my list: SSD - REMOVE - Maybe later - Too much, too short of life. WD Black Drive - Just get one at present. Change: HIS H467PS1GH Radeon HD 4670 iSilence4 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - $85 w/rebate to HIS IceQ H567Q1GD Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $85 w/rebate Changed Memory to: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL Is the: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard worth $25 more over the ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ? |
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04-09-2010, 02:18 PM
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I wouldn't spend the big bucks for 4gb ram modules, and I would stay as close to the QVL as possible. The only things the Pro board gets you is true Crossfire and a coaxial S/PDIF.
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04-09-2010, 02:24 PM
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The only difference I think is the support for Crossfire/SLI.
The E-Pro gives you dual cards at x8/x8 whereas the E supports Crossfire, but it will be x16/x4 on the PCIe lanes. If you never plan to double up video cards in Crossfire, then the E will be just fine. |
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04-09-2010, 03:15 PM
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P7P55D-E LGA it is then.
The only reason I was looking at the 4Gb sticks was to be able to throw as much memory at Win7 as possible. Since video editing was one of my uses. Using 2Gb sticks top me out at 8Gb total. I also read that to look for 1.5V memory - (may be bull, I don't know). |
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04-09-2010, 04:31 PM
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Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533 $119.99 HIS IceQ H567Q1GD Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity Item #: N82E16814161334 $119.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Item #: N82E16817139005 $89.99 CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMD4GX3M2A1600C8 Item #: N82E16820145265 $147.99 ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813131620 $144.99 Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 Item #: N82E16819115214 $279.99 SubTotal - $903 Tax - $84 TOTAL - $987 ($944 minus mail-in rebates) |
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04-09-2010, 08:37 PM
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Looks great!
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04-09-2010, 11:50 PM
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Save your money - you don't need that Dominator ram! Check the QVL VERY carefully, please. I think the Ripjaws you had to begin with is okay.
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04-10-2010, 09:06 AM
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I printed out the QVL but maybe the model number of the sticks that are listed have changed because those numbers & the numbers listed on sites don't match exactly.
I will look again at the numbers - Also will look at the GSkill. Memory changed to: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - $110 Thanks Last edited by The_Tango; 04-10-2010 at 09:18 AM. |
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04-10-2010, 10:50 AM
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Yes, the GBNQ is compatible.
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