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09-15-2010, 01:43 PM
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First time PC Building, some reasearch done
Hey there building my first PC (gaming= sc2, diablo 3, tf2, etc). Got all the parts i need i think, i may have too many fans tho lol. Take a look at what i plan to buy and send me your thought please, any help would be much appreciated.
CASE COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case MOTHERBOARD MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.ca - MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard CPU AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX PSU APEVIA WARLOCK POWER ATX-WA750W 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply Newegg.ca - APEVIA WARLOCK POWER ATX-WA750W 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply RAM CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 Newegg.ca - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive DVD-ROM LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM Newegg.ca - LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - CD / DVD Drives GPU (GRAPHICS CARD) SPARKLE SXX4801536D5-NM GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.ca - SPARKLE SXX4801536D5-NM GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card FAN COOLER MASTER R4-L2S-122B-GP 120mm 4 BLUE LED LED Case Fan Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER R4-L2S-122B-GP 120mm 4 BLUE LED LED Case Fan FAN COOLER MASTER R4-S4S-10AK-GP 140mm Case Fan Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER R4-S4S-10AK-GP 140mm Case Fan GPU COOLER ZALMAN VF1000 2 Ball VGA Cooler Newegg.ca - ZALMAN VF1000 2 Ball VGA Cooler OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM Newegg.ca - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - Operating Systems MOUSE/KEYBOARD SpecResearch Smart-2B Black 104 Normal Keys 15 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard and Optical Mouse Newegg.ca - SpecResearch Smart-2B Black 104 Normal Keys 15 Function Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard and Optical Mouse Thats everything, just want to make sure i dont need a sound card or lan/network card with this mother board? Also my video card is ddr5 ram but motherboard is ddr3 some forums said this didnt matter, but i just wanna double check. Do i have too many fans? gonna run this baby alot tho. Any compatibility issues anyone can find? Bought sc2 then realized that my current computer couldnt handle it so trying to get something dece together. Thx for any help. Sorry forgot to add price, range is around 1500 Last edited by Magikow; 09-15-2010 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Price range forgotten |
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09-15-2010, 01:51 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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I'd recommend switching that PSU for a PC Power & Cooling, or an Antec.
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09-15-2010, 02:02 PM
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any specific reason?
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09-15-2010, 02:23 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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Quality, as in reliability.
Check this out: What Power Supply should I get? How many Watts? Who made it? Guide Inside. |
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09-15-2010, 06:13 PM
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Would go with an Asus brand motherboard, MSI boards are more for the tweeker group and I believe they have had quailty issues.
The WD Black is the standard recommend HD. As for fans, the case you picked has 3 big fans in it, drop the extras. The CPU already comes with a Heatsink/fan so you don't need the Zalman.
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09-15-2010, 07:34 PM
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Last edited by Magikow; 09-15-2010 at 08:19 PM. Reason: double post |
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09-15-2010, 07:53 PM
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Hey guys, thx for the help, cut out all the fans except for the 2for1 120mm (want them on the bottom drawing up cold air) Sorry i missed typed something, the Zalman was a Video Card cooler, is the fan on the gtx 480 enough?
Swapped the MOBO and PSU ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard Newegg.ca - ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply Newegg.ca - Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply Better? |
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09-15-2010, 09:04 PM
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btw was also wondering what the difference between sli certified and sli ready is? my power supply is certified but not ready. Plan to use it for an sli setup with 2 gtx 480s eventually, might even swap out gtx 480 for 2 gtx 460s or something along those lines to decrease cost a bit. Any thoughts?
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09-15-2010, 10:10 PM
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I think its the connectors. Certified means tested and garranteed no problems. Ready would be capable, but you may have to use an adapter for one of the graphics cards. I'm not sure. I do know certified is better than ready.
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09-15-2010, 10:14 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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I was thinking along the same lines: that certified is kinda like "nVidia tested, nVidia approved", whilst ready is just the PSU manufacturer has tested but not nVidia. Dunno, I've never been into dual cards so I have never cared to look into this. But yes, I'd go with certified over ready. That being said, I'd NOT buy an SLI-certified Deer-quality PSU over an SLI-ready Antec or PC P&C.
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09-15-2010, 10:30 PM
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thx for the advice, no worries the PSU is SLI certified and Antec so no problems there. Any thought on 2 lesser video cards vs 1 good one?
I was looking at two of these instead of the one listed above ASUS ENGTS450 DIRECTCU/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.ca - ASUS ENGTS450 DIRECTCU/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card |
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09-15-2010, 10:31 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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That's only 128-bit bandwidth. For gaming I'd go with at least 256-bit. One good video card is better than two crappy ones.
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09-15-2010, 10:37 PM
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Yep one good is better than two fair or decent. I keep hearing dual cards is for when the top card aint enough or you already have one vid card and want more juice.
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09-15-2010, 10:40 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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For enthusiasts with deep wallets, likewise X58 mobos.
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09-15-2010, 10:47 PM
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lol i wish, id spend 4-5gs on this baby if i could. I guess ill stick with the 480 for now, maybe a good 470. Thx for the help guys
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09-15-2010, 10:55 PM
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Mondsreitersmann
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Wish I had 5gs... I'd buy a Mac Pro.
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09-16-2010, 09:46 AM
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best way to go is the best single graphics card you can get. now here are the amd freaks recommendations to your build:
since you dropped the fans, go and drop the gpu cooler, you dont really need it if your case has decent airflow, and yours should, kick your CPU up to the 965, (i know its quite a bit more, but trust me, you will like the difference in performance.) the deneb core is a bit better with gaming, and the 2 extra cores is really helpful. starcraft 2 abuses all the cpu power it can get, as it is an rts, and you will definately bottleneck the system with that dual core cpu. you dont need an nvidia chipset to run an nvidia card. you only need it if you wish to SLI, which you A)wont need to, and B) dont want to get into unless you really want to. i recommend this board: Newegg.ca - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard the amd 890gx northbridge is much more modern and powerful than the nvidia 980a, and the sb850 adds sata6gbps and usb 3 to your list of features, whilst saving you 20 bucks. now take that 20 bucks, and double the performance of your HDD, reducing load times by quite possibly 40-50% with the sata 6gbps western digital caviar black 1tb: Newegg.ca - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ram over 1333 mhz is pointless in a gaming system, as the performance increase is only 2 to 3 FPS, i would say use this instead, and save a couple of bucks at the same time: Newegg.ca - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-2G make these changes, and i think the price should come out about the same, possible up a bit, but the end result will be a much more balanced, and powerful system to keep you happy for years to come.
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09-19-2010, 07:03 PM
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The only Nvidia card that's best in its price class is the GTX460 1GB. Radeons own the other price points. For AMD processors, motherboards with AMD chipsets and Crossfire instead of SLI are more stable than NForce chipsets.
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