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Need advice on Video Cards.
Hi all,ok so I'm looking at getting a new video card and it is a Asus EAH5670 with 1GB of DDR5 Ram,now here is the thing I would like to know,a few years back I remeber alot of my friends got ATI cards and pretty much all 5 of them had problems with there Video cards mainly they just would not play all the games hat were out at the time and they all had the same problem there cards were not the same one was an ASUS and one was a Visiontek and not sure of the rest but alot of games they were supposed to be able to play they could not,it was not because they were not powerful enough they just would not interface with the games propperly.To better explain this I had two friends the one guy had a Visiontek card the other guy had a ASUS card,now here is the strange thing both cards had the same ATI chipset's and the same specs and there pPC's had more than enough Ram and CPU to run the game according to the box as I tried to help the both but olny the ASUS card would run the game they were trying to play,keep in mind this was a while ago and I'm not sure of the cards or game it was,but the thing I'm wanting to know does ATI still have a bad Rap that way or are there better now.
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Mondsreitersmann
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The problem back then was not the videocard makers, but ATi and its pitiful drivers, and ATi's arrogance in not admitting that their drivers sucked. Instead they just kept laying the blame on game makers, and these last named on ATi and so back and forth. I had an ATi card and had to disable water effects in NWN to prevent the game from crashing; neither ATi nor Bioware ever fixed the problem.
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Tom's Hardware has rated the 5670 as the best gaming card in the $80 category - but that Asus is over $100 at Newegg. In the $100 category, both the 4850 and Nvidia GTS 250 are better cards if you don't need a DX 11 card. To save money, a 512mb card will be fine as long as you don't play games at super high resolutions. In the $125 category, the 5750 is the best card - and it's DX 11. I'd look at this one:
Newegg.com - HIS H575Q1GD Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card |
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GLC I was wondering do you think that card would fit on my board I have an ASUS P7H55-M Pro and I have a Ccoolermaster Elite 341 case the olny thing I'm concerned about is that the card may hit the PCI slot's down from the PCI slot's where they plug in or will the card be tall enough it should cover the slot without hitting it.
Also my other spec's are a i7 860 8GB Corsair Ram Core 92 Cooler Ultra 650 Powersupply a Fan controler and 2 Aerocool Shark 120mm Black Edition Fans Front and Rear and a BFG 9800GT.Those Aero cool fans really push alot of air and run really quiet,also whatever happened to BFG I did not see anything but one of there cards at Tigerdirect when I was looking at new cards. Last edited by wade7575; 09-22-2010 at 01:17 PM. |
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Mondsreitersmann
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Cards are built to standard specifications. That's a two-slot card, though, so you won't be able to use the slot immediately below the PCI-E slot you plug the card in. That's normal.
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Ok so I went with a XFX HD577AZNFC Radeon HD 5770 Video Card and I got a HDMI cable to go with my new Monitor I just got not even a month ago it's a Viewsonic 24 inch 2MS Response time and has 1080P and is 1920x1080 Tigerdirect part number VX2439wm it has gotten really good reviews from alot of the different sites I checked it out on and my friend has an older Viewsonic and it has always worked great for him.
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Ultra power supplies are questionable, stay out of Tiger Direct. BFG is no longer in business, if you buy one you are on your own with no support or warranty.
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I know ASUS said to me a while back that the Ultra Powersupply's were a bit on the questionable side but said they have gotten all the problems fixed with them.I'm sure when I read an online article by yahoo I think but I'm not 100% sure who it was and they were talking about Tigerdirect and how they have become a 2.6 Billion dollar openly traded company,they said in the article that they own Factory's and make alot of OEM part's for company's like Kingston they olny make 3 different kinds of Ram for them and they make alot of Powersupply's for enermax and thermaltake BFG and a few others they also make alot of cables and other stuff I was shocked at how much they made.I'm not to worried about there powersupply's the guy at ASUS said that at one time he would agree that they were not all that great as everyone that had been buying them and called into ASUS and said they were using a Ultra powersupply they were finding alot of the time it was the problem but now he said if they ask what powersupply they are using and if they say Ultra they are not finding they are a problem anymore and no more than anyother decent brand.Also the 650 Ultra I have is the same as a certain Thermaltake on the inside and that everything is the same but a few thing's on the outside and they were both bad powersupply's and the guy at ASUS also said that they had contacted Ultra because a few customers boards were taken out because of the Ultra 650 and Ultra told them that there 650 and the Thermaltake were the same unit's and they were aware of the problem in both and were fixing them.
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Get a power supply that is known to be reliable by the professional builders here, not a PSU that might be better now. You have better odds this way.
What Power Supply should I get? How many Watts? Who made it? Guide Inside.
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ECS and PC Shits are also thousands of millions dollars companies, and their products continue to be crap. E-machines and HP sell thousands and thousands of systems, and it's those systems that keep coming to the shops all the time, and many times come out to go directly to the garbage. But if you wanna play Russian roulette with your money and computer, suit yourself.
The advice you get here is sound and based on our combined experience as people who have built thousands of systems; it doesn't come from a brand representative who has to be nice to the competition and say things through the flowers and in undertones because his company may get sued. We don't get pay cuts from Antec for recommending their units over Ultra's, nor are we the brand-bashing type (some of us might be, but such attitude is frowned on in these forums). But you make your call. Last edited by Nuclear Krusader; 09-22-2010 at 07:17 PM. |
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OR, you could wait for the amd 6k series.
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I can see your point's guy's and I'm not really one to bash a brand for the most part and I agree about the HP Machines there Home PC's are the worst for a brand that is supposed to be really good.
I also got looking in my case and I seen that I may not be able to get the XFX card to fit so I got the Asus EAH5670. |
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You also didn't follow our video card brand rating thread that was linked - good luck with that XFX card. Tiger Direct pushes a lot of CRAP. There's no way to sugarcoat it.
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I had to Cancel that XFX card glc I called ASUS and they said the case and board that I have will not work that XFX card,I got the origanal Asus EAH5670 card I was asking about before.
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