cant get my sata devices recognized in bios

[dirty elf]

build is in sig, i can't get my bios to recognize my two drives.. wd hdd and lg optical drive

i plugged them both into the marvel 6gb/s ports on the mobo

could this be part of the problems i was having installing my OS?

i have cleaned the hdd and have no OS installed currently.. also my CPU temps sit around 52C when idling in the bios.. is that high?

thanks for the help

[Spools]

What BIOS version do you have? The latest for that board (v1302) mentions a fix for ODDs not being detected by the Marvell controller.

[dirty elf]

im using the 1002 version, i noticed that.. but it's also not detecting my hard drive

i was able to boot from the optical drive, and partition the hdd through diskpart... so it is seeing something... just in bios it says

>SATA1 [not detected]
>SATA2 [not detected]

etc....

[glc]

The system bios probably won't see drives on the Marvell - it has a separate bios. It's accessible with a different set of keystrokes. Refer to the mobo manual.

Only put SATA 6.0 devices on the Marvell.

52C at idle is about 15 degrees too hot. Redo the heatsink mounting.

[dirty elf]

Originally Posted by glc The system bios probably won't see drives on the Marvell - it has a separate bios. It's accessible with a different set of keystrokes. Refer to the mobo manual. Only put SATA 6.0 devices on the Marvell. 52C at idle is about 15 degrees too hot. Redo the heatsink mounting.

So that would explain why it isnt "seeing" either of my drives, optical or HDD. When i move the optical to the non marvell port, then it should show up in the bios, right? would i connect it to the J-micron controller, or another sata port? also, when going through POST it flashes a screen showing my connected drives, the HDD says its at SATA III speed and the optical drive says SATA I. Is SATA III 6gb/s on the HDD and SATA I 3gb/s on the optical drive?

Ill look in the manual for the marvell bios, could it be the section under AHCI control settings? it brings up another list of 6 sata drives (which all say [not detected] at this moment)

ill check on the exact menus and look further into the book when i get home from work tonite.

about the temperature, this was in the BIOS under hardware monitoring, it had been sitting at the BIOS screen while i was reading the book for maybe 30-45 mins.. i was reading about temps online trying to find an answer and ran across something that said temps would be much higher at idle in the BIOS because it does not activate any of the power saving functionality, at idle in the OS when it uses those options temperatures would be much lower. any truth to that statement?

[glc]

No, use the INTEL controller. The JMicron is the eSATA and IDE controller.

To enter the Marvell or JMicron bios settings you need to connect a device to the controller, then press a specific key combination on startup, just like you would press DEL (or F1 or F2, whatever your bios uses) to enter the system bios settings. The only system bios settings for those 2 controllers are to enable or disable them.

[dirty elf]

ok, ill move the optical drive to an intel sata port, can i install windows to the HD with it connected to the marvell SATAIII controller? or should i move both to one of the intel ports and install and switch later?

Im thinking i need to leave the HDD in the marvell SATAIII port and enable AHCI mode before I install my OS, just from reading around forums... but i dont actually know.

what about:

Originally Posted by me about the temperature, this was in the BIOS under hardware monitoring, it had been sitting at the BIOS screen while i was reading the book for maybe 30-45 mins.. i was reading about temps online trying to find an answer and ran across something that said temps would be much higher at idle in the BIOS because it does not activate any of the power saving functionality, at idle in the OS when it uses those options temperatures would be much lower. any truth to that statement?

[glc]

Im thinking i need to leave the HDD in the marvell SATAIII port and enable AHCI mode before I install my OS

That's exactly what you need to do.

No truth to that statement that I'm aware of - 52 is too hot at idle whether powersave is running or not. Fix your heatsink.

[dirty elf]

i have a tube of thermal paste laying around from when my friend used it to do the penny trick on his xBox 360, does the stuff expire? or should i just order a new tube.. just dont want to wait 3 days (which will end up being 6 with the weekend now)

should i use an alcohol wipe to wipe of the "stock" thermal paste? Do i wipe just the heatsink, or the processor *NERVOUS* as well?

or... do i just simply need to reseat it?

[glc]

It may just need to be reseated - I'm betting it has a loose pin. You need to remove the mobo from the case to do it right.

[dirty elf]

ok i removed everything from the case, reseated my cpu heatsink/fan, and plugged my optical drive into an intel sata port, now i get my optical drive recognized in the bios, not the HDD...

the optical drive is recognized in SATA #4 port, which it is plugged into... should it be in port #1? does it matter?

now the temps are about 55C-56C while in the BIOS, MB temp is about 36C-38C

edit: CPU Temperature (PECI) is what the information im reading in the bios is... what does the PECI stand for? is that why this temperature is higher?

i have a tube of artic silver 5 like i explained before, its maybe a year or so old.. i noticed that the "stock" thermal compound seemed to be evenly spread on the processor/heatsink

[wade7575]

I have an ASUS Mobo to and had to replace the MOBO it went bad I had the same problem.Try this I had to go into boot Priority and then there should be 3 device's I think mine said Atpi or something like that it means cd drive then my IDE DVD Drive was there then the 3rd was a usb and the 4th was not filled in,wot just high lite the second device and and press enter a sub menu should apear then select the Sata device from there it should be in there that's the way I was told by ASUS and it worked,I put my windows back on fine but everytime I restarted my PC I had to tap the F5 key or something like that not sure what it was to choose what the PC was going to boot from.Also in the Sub Menu you should able to see everything that is showing in the first menu and the stuff that is olny showing in the sub menu as well.

[dirty elf]

it recognizes my WD caviar black as a boot device, i think glc was right when he stated that the marvell controller has a separate bios.. because its obviously seeing it.. just not in the main bios, which is apparently the intel sata ports


now im just worried about these temps...

[wade7575]

Just give what I said a try I'm not saying I'm right but windows went on for me even though my HDD was not showing in the Bios,I have never seen a bios with a sub menu before but that all I needed to do and the funny part is everything else was detected just not the HDD.Also you you are looking for a good cooler I have a Zerotherm core 92 and it works really good and the aerocool shark fan's with 15 blades in the 120mm size move 83.41 cfm I think at around 1500 to 1600 rpm's and they are really quiet as compared to most 120mm fans that olny push 41 to 45 cfm at 2500 rpm and are much louder.My CPU in the Bios is olny 36 to 38c all the time and when using Cupids the core's never get more then 31 to 38c .

[glc]

Like I said, the main bios will not see devices on the Marvell or JMicron controllers. They have their own bioses.

Get Windows loaded and see what Asus PC Probe reports the CPU temperature.

Port number doesn't matter.

[dirty elf]

im not even trying to boot windows yet... ill keep what you said in mind tho

my stock cooler should work fine, i think something may be wrong with it, either the install or the thermal paste

edit: that was at wade, ill try to load windows and see whats up with the temps

[dirty elf]

0x80070570 error when "expanding files" trying to install windows... grrrrrrrr


what gives?

[dirty elf]

ran memtest86+ : faulty ram...

[glc]

Lifetime warranty on that ram - get it taken care of.

[dirty elf]

working on testing the other 3 sticks, then ill get it taken care of... hopefully once that is all sorted out i should be able to get windows installed cleanly

should i RMA through newegg? or go through adata?

[glc]

If it's over 30 days you have to go through A-Data. If you bought a dual channel kit, both modules have to go back, if all 4 were in a kit, it all has to go back.

[dirty elf]

i bought 2 dual channel kits, is there some way to tell which ones came in a package together... i sure as hell cant tell now

[glc]

Contact them - ask them exactly what they want you to do.

[dirty elf]

got one set of ram on RMA with newegg, and got windows 7 installed finally.. asus pc probe II says CPU at 36C ... i think the heatsink is fine


edit: down to 34C now

[dirty elf]

hmm... something i noticed

i let it run for a few mins while i was watching tv and a couple minutes after it went to screen saver and then my monitor went to powersave mode it gave me an alarm and said the temps were now at 60°C+ as soon as i woke it back up and it got back to the desktop they dropped (within seconds) back to 37°C-38°C... its not really getting that hot, is it? it must be some sort of setting or something that causes it to read higher when in sleep/screen saver mode, right?

i placed my hand over the exhaust fan on the case and the air wasn't hot at all, if it was really 60°C (140°F) I would think I could feel the difference between that and 35°C (95°F) - not sure tho

[glc]

I'm guessing the CPU fan may be shutting down. Check all your power management and sleep settings.

[dirty elf]

where would they be located at? the fans on the case arent plugged into the mobo, and they kept spinning.. i could hear them.. dont know about the cpu fan tho

[glc]

The motherboard controls the CPU fan. Check both the bios and any Asus utility software that's been installed.

[dirty elf]

ill check the bios when i get back, havent installed any asus utilities except pc probe 2

[glc]

I believe PC Probe 2 is capable of managing the CPU fan - check the settings.