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building my first PC
ok well I am sick of the 6 or 7 year old dell I'm currently using right now, so I figured now is a good time to try and build a computer and learn some new things along the way
the PC I want to build will be a gaming rig but also used for typical school/office work I don't necessarily want super top of the line everything right off the bat but a good mother board and PSU to build on in the future (start off with one video card and maybe SLI down the road etc perhaps some Over clocking but not right away) here is the list of parts I have picked out so far thanks to the almighty newegg CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case Mother board: EVGA 160-LF-E659-KR LGA 1156 Intel P55 Classified 200 SLI Extended ATX Intel Motherboard Newegg.com - EVGA 160-LF-E659-KR LGA 1156 Intel P55 Classified 200 SLI Extended ATX Intel Motherboard RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Newegg.com - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL CPU: Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I7870 Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I7870 Video card: EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Newegg.com - EVGA 012-P3-1472-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card thats pretty much all I have so far I still need: HDD('s), Optical drives, PSU, for a monitor my 46" HDTV has a PC hook up so I was planing to use that if it doesn't work out I can buy a dedicated PC monitor('s) later the mother board I picked because of the number of PCI express x16 slots no USB 3.0 but is that really important or will 2.0 be fine for a while? (thinking of future proofing here) as for keyboard and mouse I haven't really looked at them a lot I can probably get a decent laser mouse for free and keyboard I'm not too concerned with until I get the PC all sorted out my main concerns are, will everything work together and help on the PSU and HDD's and optical drives since it will be attached to my TV DVD and DVD burning is pretty much a must well I think I covered everything open to all suggestions BTW trying to keep the cost down right now all the parts I listed plus some thermal paste and what not came up to 1000 dollars roughly but thats why I'm not worried about having the latest and greatest video card and what not as long as I have a good mother board I can upgrade the peripherals later down the road thanks for all the help and what a great site I must say |
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Mondsreitersmann
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G.skill ram has had lots of problems lately, you may want to change that to Crucial.
Avoid Seagate for your hard drive; go with Western Digital. As for the PSU, pick one from Antec or PC Power & Cooling.
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Pick an Asus board over the EVGA. Asus makes the most reliable boards.
Antec, Corsair or Seasonic PSU's are all good power supplies. The amount of power will depend on which card or cards you choose. I would stick with a single card to minimize the chance of there being problems. With the graphics card you chose, a 600 watt PSU would work. A nice quiet one is the Corsair TX650. Were it my build, I would choose a 2 DIMM kit of 4 gigs of Corsair 1333, 1.5 volt RAM. Use the stock CPU cooler until you plan on overclocking or if you do not like the noise of the stock cooler. Your GPU fan will probably be noisier though. If your budget allows for it, choose an Nvidia 480 or a Radeon 4870. This will allow you to max out the game settings and keep the frame rates up for the vast majority of games on a single 24 inch monitor. Optical drives are a personal preference, they pretty much all work. LITE-ON's are good. Make sure it's one with a SATA connector. Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - CD / DVD Drives The CPU and chipset you chose are good.
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ok so I have replaced the G skill ram with this
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory w/ Blue LEDs Model BL2KIT25664TB1608 Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory w/ Blue LEDs Model BL2KIT25664TB1608 and this PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371026 will 750W be enough to keep everything happy if I ever decide to SLI later on down the road?? Last edited by GONE1445; 10-13-2010 at 06:53 PM. |
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Mondsreitersmann
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Good choice of memory. Yes, 750 is fine, even the PSU says it's certified for it, so you can be at ease concerning that.
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Techphile.
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750 watts will power most but not all dual card setups.
Check with the card manufacturer. |
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well going by neweggs PSU calculator 750 is good for one card but like david M said its not gonna have enough kick for 2 cards but SLI isn't for sure so later on if I need it I can get a bigger PSU
or is it better to just get a bigger one now? |
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That's not exactly what I said.
In more detail, a 750 watt PSU may or may not power two graphics cards. It depends on which cards. Both AMD and Nvidia have web pages that will tell you which PSU's are certified to power which two or three cards, either in SLI or in Crossfire. Last edited by David M; 10-13-2010 at 08:57 PM. |
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I got what you said David I just didn't say what I wanted as clear as I could have, but with my video card 750W wont be enough to run two but as I said one will be fine for now
here is my pick for an optical drive: LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature Model iHBS112 - OEM Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu-ray 3D feature Model iHBS112 - Blu-Ray Burners using two for bluray burning and for HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive also times two not necessarily in a RAID setup but just one for back up's and what not |
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didnt read really in depth to all replies, but the i7-870 cpu cooler is nice and quiet, atleast mine is. then again its also in an antec 1200 case.
for dual graphics cards, i recommend atleast an 850 watt unit. 2x gtx460s with that i7 will draw close to that under a full load. when it comes to power, the farther you are away from the max output of the unit, the better. lower % of max power = longer life. spend the extra 2 bucks and get the sata 6gbps version of that caviar black. and for the mobo, i must recommend the asus p7p55d-e. im the amd nut who went and built himself an i7 gaming monster.
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me too
.. although mine isint really a "monster"also, that ram you chose is 1.65V not sure if you noticed.. just pointing it out
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the mobo I picked only lists 3Gb/s thats why I didnt pick Gb/s HDD's
and whats wrong with the ram being 1.65V? also I dont know why I thought I needed 2 Bluray burners so I replaced one with just a bluray drive LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM 8X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM SATA Internal 4X Blu-ray Disc Reader Model iHOS104-08 Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM 8X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM SATA Internal 4X Blu-ray Disc Reader Model iHOS104-08 |
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higher voltage ram POSSIBLY means there was an issue with it, that was resolved by using a higher voltage. the standard for ddr3 ram is 1.5v.
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so is that not good ram to use?
I just thought it was 1.65 because of the LED's |
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ok new question, I picked the intel i7 870 CPU and on neweggs site it says
"With the integrated DDR3 memory controller, the Intel Core i7 enables two channels of DDR3 1333 MHz memory, resulting in up to 21 GB/sec memory bandwidth." does this mean the cruical ram I picked Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory w/ Blue LEDs Model BL2KIT25664TB1608 wont run at 1600MHz?? also the mobo says "Memory Standard: DDR3 2600+" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188058 also I have narrowed it down to two PSU a corsair CORSAIR Professional Series AX1200 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139014 or an Antec Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache Technology SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371032 Last edited by GONE1445; 10-21-2010 at 09:52 PM. |
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If you ever plan on running SLI or Crossfire, get the P7P55D-E Pro board.
I don't recommend high voltage ram in a P55 build. Stick with 1.5 volt ram, and DDR3-1333 is fast enough. 1200 watts is going overboard. |
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