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10-19-2010, 09:36 PM
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time for a new build
my computer has been giving me some problems for quite some time now, and i decided it's time for a new build since i need to have something more reliable and i would also like to make the switch to windows 7. i need it to have good performance for things like adobe products like photoshop. not much of a gamer these days but i would like it to handle graphics decently just in case. i would like to keep things around $1000.
i need help with some components, it's been awhile. here's what i've come up with so far... Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $109 Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $89.99 Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $89.99 Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR $71.99 Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $139.99 Newegg.com - ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I7860 $279 Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I7860 LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer $21.99 Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $99.99 Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - Operating Systems how does that look, everything compatible? recommendations for a video card ??? am i missing anything? thanks for any help 
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10-19-2010, 09:51 PM
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The radeon 6800 series video cards are due out in a few days.
Wait and decide after the reviews shows up.
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10-19-2010, 09:57 PM
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The i7-870 is only another $10. What is your budget for a video card?
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10-19-2010, 10:25 PM
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10-20-2010, 08:42 AM
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decent grahpics, on the cheap, hmm perhaps a 5770 or a bit higher up 5830 or gtx460 768 model. not too sure how much of a gpu load photoshop is.
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10-20-2010, 08:54 AM
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As a moderate gamer, with a primary interest in photoshop, and a $150.00 budget a Radeon 5770 would be a good choice.
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10-20-2010, 09:23 AM
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10-20-2010, 11:58 AM
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thanks! i have a question about memory, should i be getting DDR3 1600 or DDR3 1333?
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10-20-2010, 01:01 PM
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Unless you are going to overclock, 1333 should be fine.
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10-20-2010, 02:43 PM
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The P55-based boards prefer standard 1.5 volt ram, and 1333 is sufficient.
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10-20-2010, 10:17 PM
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i notice in the newegg reviews for the CPU they talk a lot about the stock heatsink being crap, is it really necessary to buy a separate one, or do you think the one that comes with it should be fine? i've never messed with those before.
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10-20-2010, 11:19 PM
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The stock heatsink is fine unless you will be heavily overclocking the CPU.
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10-21-2010, 08:36 AM
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there really is no point to getting 1600 ram, as it wont run at those speeds unless you overclock (as far as i know). you may have to manually edit the memory settings to get that ram to run stable.
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10-21-2010, 08:46 AM
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Stick with glc's suggestion 1.5v 1333 ram. Just look at the QVL and get one of them. Don't make this important selection the weak link in your build, you are asking for aggravation. If you want to overclock the ram, then get the matching ram in the QVL.
P55 chipsets are fickle in regards to memory. your choice may work but it also may cause weird little problems that will have you scratching your head. |
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10-21-2010, 09:03 AM
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I also question the choice of an XFX video card from a quality and support standpoint. The HIS I recommended is actually a few bucks cheaper.
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10-21-2010, 11:06 AM
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10-21-2010, 11:20 AM
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Any 5770 will "handle graphics decently" regardless of its clock speeds.
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10-21-2010, 11:31 AM
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ok, should i go back to this for the RAM?
Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/4GR i guess i got a little confused after looking around because 1600 seems to be the "standard" RAM now, so i tried to work it in. but i have no problem sticking with the 1333. i can't find any QVC for the mb online, hopefully this memory will be ok. as far as the video card, i was looking at a different HIS card somewhere and saw a ton of negative reviews that scared me off from that brand. not questioning glc's expertise though i do trust what he says. i'll switch back to HIS. thanks guys!!! |
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10-21-2010, 05:47 PM
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Go to the Asus website, then the product page for the motherboard. Look in the Memory/Device Support tab for the QVL.
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10-21-2010, 06:22 PM
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oh, awesome, thanks
guess i should have thought of that!
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11-01-2010, 09:04 PM
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well... tried putting it together today. failed. so disappointing.
been messing with it for quite awhile with no luck. the board lights up, fans spin, dvdrom will open/close. but i get no display and the power light blinks on and off on the monitor. no beeps. no bios. i tried rechecking everything, reseated the RAM, tried with just 1 stick, unplugged the HDD and DVD just in case. reseated the video card. no luck... oh also there is no light on the keyboard. does that mean the motherboard is bad?  any ideas?? i read thru some posts on here about problems with new builds, but still stuck. i'm not able to swap out parts to check stuff either really. |
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11-01-2010, 09:16 PM
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Have you tried this?
PROBLEMS with a NEW BUILD? Try This!! |
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11-01-2010, 09:35 PM
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also, just noticed, cpu led on the mb is red. Last edited by gorie; 11-01-2010 at 10:08 PM. |
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11-01-2010, 10:20 PM
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omg... i just got it to work. it helped to take a break and then go back to things.
turns out i'm just an idiot!! forgot to plug the 4pin power supply into the motherboard. had the big one in and missed that. !! http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/26...video-problems this helped. |
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11-02-2010, 01:20 AM
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bah, now that i got things up and going i notice that my hard drive is making clicking noises. that sucks. looks like i will have to return that one, can't be a good sign!
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11-02-2010, 09:37 AM
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SOME clicking is normal. Before returning it, run manufacturer's diagnostics on it.
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11-02-2010, 09:05 PM
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having another problem...
in windows7 (64bit) it is showing only 2 GB (of 4gb) useable RAM. i tried msconfig to see if the option for max memory settings was checked, it is not. i went into BIOS and see that 2048 useable RAM is listed there. i am running memtest now, it lists slot 0: 2048 mb pc3-10600 slot 1: 2048 mb pc3-10600 it recognizes that both sticks are there. this is the RAM i ended up getting: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK it is listed on the mtherboard specs as compatible. i see in the memtest that it's saying settings: ddr3-13337 / cas 9-9-9-24 / single channel (the newegg specs for theram say 8-8-8-21 timing..) i didn't change any settings in BIOS when i set things up. i figured it'd auto detect that stuff? the ram is in A1 B1 for dual channel as the manual describes. what do i do to fix this? |
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11-02-2010, 10:30 PM
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nevermind about the RAM, that's working now. must not have had it seated properly? i ended up taking each out and trying with just 1 at a time to make sure each worked, then when i did both again it saw 4gb. whew.
also, about the hard drive. i ran the diagnostics, and it PASSED. but the ticking still makes me nervous, i never had a drive tick like this before, and it's pretty frequent and annoying. i think i'll RMA it just to be on the safe side.
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11-02-2010, 11:03 PM
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Some clicking is indeed normal. I was also fretting about one of my drives. I decided to leave it as it is with its clicking and it's still running strong. Of course I backed up, just in case. But backups have to be done whether the drive clicks or not, so there.
Just back up any data you have on it that you can't live without and let it be. If it goes, then RMA it. What if they send you a replacement that also clicks? (Or what if they test it and then return the same unit to you because it's not defective?) The kind of clicking you should fear is the one that sounds like a marble inside a tin can that is being shaken; and this clicking can be identified right away.
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