Building my first PC, help!

[R210580]

okay so right now the components i chose are -

Motherboard - MSi 890gxm g65
CPU - AMD Phenom II x6 1090T
Video card - ATI Radeon HD 5770
Memory - Corsair 4GB DDR3 @ 1333 (single stick)
PC case - NZXT Lexa S

So, does this set-up seem alright? Would i be needing any cooling systems if i get the stock heatsink with the video card and the CPU and i guess four cooling fans with the NZXT case and a thermal compound, sunbeam tx-4.

And which PSU would you guys suggest?

Thank you.

[quartet-man]

You should change the motherboard to an Asus and check out the Corsair PSUs (except for the cx series) or Seasonic. If getting an HDD, check out the Western Digital Blacks. What are you doing for opticals?

[David M]

Which applications will you be running and what is your budget? Are you in the USA?

[jdeb]

I would recommend this board, Asus is the recommended board here and their customer service and reliability are second to no one.
Newegg.com - ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Artic Silver is the preferred brand thermal compound
Newegg.com - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

Stock Heatsink is fine if you are not overclocking but if you plan on overclocking or want a better heatsink than the crappy AMD stock one then I would choose a Cooler Master Hyper 212+, the best air cooling heatsink
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Corsair is the recommended PS. You need to give us an idea of the video card you are going with and/or if you plan on adding a second video card down the road. As it stands now, I assume a single card so this 650w is more than enough
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

[R210580]

Firstly i don't live in the US, I'm from Asia, India.

As for the motherboard, almost everyone recommended Asus over MSI. I'll use the one recommended by jdeb, ASUS m4A89GTD PRO. I came across the same Motherboard while going through the Asus boards.

For the HDD, i think i'll use one Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 7200.12 SATA 3Gb/s for now. I even have a 1TB WD external drive so storage is not a problem.

I don't think the Arctic Silver 5 compound is available here so i chose sunbeam. Only sunbeam was in the online database of the website.

I'll choose between Asus and LG for the optical drive.

As i want to make my PC a gaming PC i'll choose Phenom II x6 1055T as the Asus Motherboard is a little expensive. I could've chosen the 955 black edition Phenom II too, but i want a six core

And for at least a year or so i won't change anything so i think the stock cooler might be enough? I won't overclock it for some time.

Won't even add an extra Video card so 650W Corsair seems to be fine.

Thanks guys

[quartet-man]

You should reconsider the Seagate and change to the Western Digital Black. Seagate has had some major issues the past year or two. It isn't as good as it once was. WD blacks have a 5 year warranty too.

[Jbc223456]

I'll second QM's suggestion to just sticking with one WD internal HDD.

Without overclocking, the stock Heatsink and Fan should be more than adequate. Also, is there a reason why you are going to buy a six core? Games are more GPU dependent than they are CPU dependent. If you want to make a decent gaming machine, a strong dual-core or even quad-core should be fine. You should probably really look into spending more on a video card and less on a CPU.

[glc]

Also, is there a reason why you are going to buy a six core? Games are more GPU dependent than they are CPU dependent. If you want to make a decent gaming machine, a strong dual-core or even quad-core should be fine. You should probably really look into spending more on a video card and less on a CPU.

Did you read our sticky thread?

http://www.pcmech.com/forum/build-yo...rig-101-a.html

[Jbc223456]

I don't see where you are going with this glc...

[David M]

Sometimes it is best to drop your pre-conceived notions and trust what people who have built hundreds of computers and fixed thousands of problems are telling you.

[quartet-man]

Originally Posted by David M Sometimes it is best to drop your pre-conceived notions and trust what people who have built hundreds of computers and fixed thousands of problems are telling you.

Exactly, even thought it is ultimately their decision to make and they should decide whether a person is trustworthy as a source, they either want the right answers or they are looking for someone to tell them what they want to hear. I am not saying they should take any advice from anyone no questions asked, but with some of the experts here should at least consider was is said and investigate further if they are in doubt. I have been around here long enough to have picked up on some of the people here and who to trust. Even ones I know less about aren't automatically dismissed.

[R210580]

Okay, wow. I never said I'm not trusting you.

No particular reason to buy a six core. The other graphic cards are too expensive and even if i use a 4 core processor or a dual core, they still don't fit in the budget. And since due to this the six core still fits in the budget, why not go for it?

HDD, i'll use WD Caviar black 1TB, might upgrade later.

Optical drive LG 24x GH24.

[glc]

Originally Posted by Jbc223456 I don't see where you are going with this glc...

Did YOU read it? Khalil is a very experienced gaming computer builder and user.

[David M]

A six core processor will work, but there is no software out there that can utilize all six cores. At this point in time, it's overkill. There is hardly any software that can utilize four cores. Two cores?, plenty now. If you have one now or can get a six core for free then go for it, but I would not pay any extra for one. Why pay extra for something you can't use?

[quartet-man]

Originally Posted by R210580 Okay, wow. I never said I'm not trusting you. No particular reason to buy a six core. The other graphic cards are too expensive and even if i use a 4 core processor or a dual core, they still don't fit in the budget. And since due to this the six core still fits in the budget, why not go for it? HDD, i'll use WD Caviar black 1TB, might upgrade later. Optical drive Asus 24x GH24.

I don't know if you are talking to me or not, but if so, I wasn't referring to trusting me. However, there ARE people here like GLC and Khalil (SIC?) who have built a ton of machines and know their stuff. Although these are probably two of the biggest gurus here, there are others like Nuclear Krusader, JDeb, Pam123, and David, who I thinkhave built several as well.
I am not sure about building, but EzyStvy seems to know quite a bit about computers too and Force Flow has areas of expertise. I am probably missing others, but these are ones I have seen over the years who have answered a lot of questions and seem to have steered people the right direction quite a bit. I am not one of those, but have been doing more lately.

The deal is, a lot of people seem to ask advice of the pros, get advice and ignore it either because they really didn't want the answer, but wanted a yes man or wanted to cheap out. (IMHO). So, a former boss of mine's advice could work here "If you don't want the answer, don't ask the question.)

[David M]

Give yourself some credit Quartet....you can sing about computers. (Quartet knows computers too)

[rwest]

I believe Antec power supplies are just as reliable as Corsair and not as expensive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371015

[R210580]

Okay so what i learned from the post by glc was that you need a good chipset and a dual core processor might do very well. So, the Motherboard which I'm using(suggested by Jdeb) ,ASUS, uses the AMD 890GX chipset. And on the AMD website they suggested the HD 4290 graphics card for the best results. Is 4290 really better than 5770 with this motherboard?

@quartet-man I'm not one of those people. I want advice, I want to be guided in the right way that's why i ask questions. I'm really confused here. If i wanted to get the answer i wanted to hear, why would i ask?

And just going off topic over here.
@David M: I read on cnet, March 2010 news, that Intel is on a project to make an 8 core processor. And with that AMD is on a 12 core processor. Why do that if they can't make use of the processors, available right now, to the fullest. I'm not doubting you, just out of curiosity.

[R210580]

I think i'll stick with Corsair for the PSU.

[David M]

Originally Posted by R210580 @David M: I read on cnet, March 2010 news, that Intel is on a project to make an 8 core processor. And with that AMD is on a 12 core processor. Why do that if they can't make use of the processors, available right now, to the fullest. I'm not doubting you, just out of curiosity.

I was reading the same thing in a computer magazine. I had visualized more CPU's on one board for the future and not more cores per CPU. There are also going to be reconfigurable CPU's, where the logic gates can be changed to adapt to the task, with software.

Originally Posted by R210580 Why do that if they can't make use of the processors, available right now, to the fullest. .

I think because hardware development has to run ahead of software development. You can't write software with which there is nothing to apply it to and test it on. It would be a waste to write software for something that may never exist. You can build hardware till the cows come home and still not have any software to apply to it. I think hardware developers can be pretty certain that if the hardware exists that eventually someone will write software for the hardware.

[glc]

The 4290 is onboard graphics. It's good for onboard, but can't hold a candle to a dedicated card. Not for gaming.

That's a very good price on that EA650, and it is a very good power supply.

[rwest]

Besides if Intel didn't try to out do AMD and vice-versa what would all the top techs do for fun? Where would they work? the governments? Now theres a scary thought for ya.

Yeh, I think we better let them keep building and advancing processors...even if we don't have any games to play them with.

[David M]

True, competition drives development. Either develop or lose to the competition and go out of business. Competition is a great thing. It's what drives capitalism which keeps providing better and better for less.

[rwest]

I think if you own a 12 core cpu, you have bragging rights.

[R210580]

^ I have those bragging rights even with a six core over here xD

Okay agreed Intel and AMD are making those processors to outshine each other. But with this pace, i don't know. They might even release the processors in the market when there still isn't proper software to support the six core processor. In that case for the software developers to cope up with the latest technology, won't they start developing softwares for the latest processors?! Then what about the six cores?

[quartet-man]

Originally Posted by David M Give yourself some credit Quartet....you can sing about computers. (Quartet knows computers too)

Try coming up with a rhyme for monitor.

[quartet-man]

Originally Posted by R210580 @quartet-man I'm not one of those people. I want advice, I want to be guided in the right way that's why i ask questions. I'm really confused here. If i wanted to get the answer i wanted to hear, why would i ask?

I was talking in more general terms. I had no way of knowing if you were that way or not. What I was talking about is that there are people who have pretty much made up their minds and are only looking for people to agree with what they have chosen whether it is cost-effective, wise, the best choice, will work or what. If they don't get the affirmation they are looking for, they ignore the advice. Then, they end up often in a mess and come back trying to get the problems fixed. I'm glad you have more of an open mind.