Help With Watercooling please.

[ShredStar]

hi ive recently had a thread up to build my comp @

Hi All!! New Guy Here, Ready To build A Monsterr :D

which ive now done many thanks to all who helped now im planning to oc
heavily, but the fan noise is recking my head :P
so i wanna get the liquid cooling kit inplace. before any tweaking is applied.

ive read up on the basics of liquid cooling but want my componenets to run at a lower temp as possible without the use of LN2.


equipment needed:

-pump
-rad
-fan
-coolant res
-hoses
-fluid
-waterblocks for cpu, gpu and nb

anyone have any recommendations on them including fittings?

so far ive looked into the water blocks and found

Apogee XT for the cpu Wblock
Koolance 470GTX for the the gpu Wblock

-Shredder

[faint545]

As far as coolant/fluid goes. All you really need is distilled water and some biocide to keep algae from populating. As far as fitting goes, just make sure your hoses ID (inner diameter) matches the ID of the outlets on your waterblock and reservoir. For example, if your waterblocks and reservoir outlets have an ID of 1/2" then you want hoses that have a ID of 1/2" for a nice fit. As mentioned in the link I posted below, a good choice for tubing would be 1/2"ID and 3/4"OD (outer diameter)

Here's a good resource to read on: Thermaltake Watercooling?

[David M]

Do you want watercooling to reduce the fan noise and to get as low a temp as possible? Or do you just want water cooling to keep things quiet? There is a difference in the equipment and the price you will pay, by hundreds of dollars.

You can't go cheap with your water cooling parts because if you do, the efficiency is still roughly the same as a really efficient (and quiet) air CPU cooler. You need to purchase a very efficient heat block, a big radiator, large fans, large diameter tubing, a thermometer, a relatively big pump and reservoir, valves and flow rate indicators.

As far as coolant goes. Just go to the auto parts store and buy some cheap radiator coolant in the color you like. Radiator coolant does two important things. It stops the electrolysis between dissimilar metals and it acts as a biocide. I picked a reddish yellow coolant a few years ago which looked like I was using a nice refreshing amber ale to cool my computer. I no longer water cool though because of the hassle factor, expense factor, risk factor and the really efficient air coolers that are available now. I don't want to discourage you though. It is fun as a hobby and I don't regret having done it a few years ago.

[glc]

Corsair also has a reasonably priced sealed liquid CPU cooler with a low noise fan.

[David M]

If all you are looking for is quiet and want to be able to say you have watercooling, then the Corsair cooler would work great. But then there are also large air cooled heatsinks that do the same for less money with the same efficiency and the same noise levels.

That's what I was explaining about the inexpensive liquid cooling kits versus large efficient air coolers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-013-_-Product

[Nikon]

if you really want to reap the full benifits of liquid cooling, you will wind up sinking a rather large amount of money into it. watercooling systems from the 60-200 dollar range often provide very similar performance to 'big air' coolers in the 50-70 dollar range.

the bottom line is, for a high overclock running 24/7, big water is the way to go, but it will cost you.

as stated above, watercooling is very cool, in more ways than one, and should not be automaticly excluded just on price. it's that combonation of 'look what i got' and great cooling performance, and the simply awsome look it gives a machine that makes water cooling awesome. do what you want! after all, its your machine!

[ShredStar]

like always fast and descent replies thanks guys,

@faint yeah i take it the bigger the tubes eg: 1/2'' would be less restrictive therefore more flow therefore lower temps?

and i have read the articl about watercooling cheers faint.

@david first of all reduction of temp secondly reduction in noise, im going for a budget of £300 although i know its cutting way too close seeing as the gpu and cpu blocks are coming to £160 already lol.

@glc and david the corsair h70 ive read reviews and looks great but i want to keep everything cooled not just the cpu.


@nikon yeah its also nice to have an illuminous pipes running through yer machine looks great but when attempting oc'ing i dont want to be restricted by the heat factor


so as 1/2'' id pipe would be the ideal way finding blocks with that fitting is quite difficult as they're all 1/4''bsp outlets on the blocks

[ShredStar]

i take it ill use fittings like these

1/4" BSPP Rotary - 1/2" Highflow Hose Tail [63244] from Watercooling UK

to go from 1/2'' id pipe to 1/4'' bsp on the block

[David M]

The downside to larger diameter tubing is that it has a larger bend radius before it kinks. You will want to buy some spiral sleeves for the tubing to reduce this possibility.

Given you are new to this, I would look at a lot of successful liquid cooled systems and then design a system based on one of them. Then figure out what it will cost. Then when you have the money buy it all at once. There really is nothing in a liquid cooled system which is optional, it's all necessary.

[ShredStar]

yeah ive seen them metallic spiral bands that prevent kinks, but i think ill have a go at doing it without first and see if i can do it without, then if not ill get some!

ill do some research on all the components and post them here for all my computer wiz's to comment/advise on

watch this space...

cheers.

[ShredStar]

right guys after a bit of research ive come up with these due to lack of space in the case though this is what ive come up with.

rad :
MagiCool SLIM DUAL 240 Radiator (35040) 273x121x30mm 2x120mm fans housing
::YoYo Tech::
£30

rad fans :
Scythe Slip Stream 1200RPM 120mm 12cm Slim Case Fan 21.71 dBA / 24.03 CFM = 41 m³/h / DC12 V / 0.17 A
Scythe Slip Stream 1200rpm 120mm 12cm Slim Case Fan | 120mm | Fans | PureCoolPC
£10ea (2) = £20

resevoir and pump :
XSPC-Acrylic-Dual-5.25-Reservoir-for-One-Laing-DDC + One-Laing-18W-DDC-1-Plus.
XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25 Reservoir for One Laing DDC + One Laing 18W DDC-1 Plus
£99

tubing:
Primochill PrimoFlex Pro LRT 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : UV Green
Primochill PrimoFlex Pro LRT 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD (13-19mm) Tubing : UV Green |Specialtech UK Water Cooling Shop
£5Pm

coolant:
Feser One F1 Fluid - UV Acid Green 1L
Feser One F1 Fluid - UV Acid Green 1L [F1-0033] from Tekheads.co.uk
£9

Gpu Waterblock :
EK Full Cover Waterblock for nVidia 470 GTX Graphics Card : FC470 GTX Nickel Plexi
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/product/Fe...-1L_19513.html
£65

Cpu Waterblock :
Swiftech Apogee™ XT Extreme Rev2 775/1156/1366 CPU Block
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/prod...lock_1804.html
£60

so excluding the fittings which i should be able to 'borrow' from work its not far off £300 budget..

biggest concern is obv the size of the rad.. due to minimal space atop the cm690 case then the slim fans pulling air away from it are going to have to be sandwhiched between the top and the removable cover hence why theyre only 12mm wide..

please any advice is really needed
cheers